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Transfer Portal Update - Aaron Dumas

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Looks like AD is now in the portal and ready to leave UNM. Any chance he might be willing to come back home? AD is a much quicker and elusive back than what we have on roster. With Quadriz Wadley leaving due to graduation, I think he would be a great compliment to our backfield.
 
Ouch! With Aaron Dumas entering the transfer portal, that totals 15 UNM players wanting out of Albuquerque according to 247. Dimel needs to get on the horn and fill out the UTEP roster.
 
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He would start immediately.
4.8 yards a carry is not bad, but I dont think he would suplant Awatt. He could compete for reps this season and the starting job next year though. Can he catch?

I'm not sold on Hankins. Either he is not as good as we were hoping or he is in the wrong offense.
 
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Looks like AD is now in the portal and ready to leave UNM. Any chance he might be willing to come back home? AD is a much quicker and elusive back than what we have on roster. With Quadriz Wadley leaving due to graduation, I think he would be a great compliment to our backfield.
But he would be giving up an indoor practice facility by coming to UTEP 🙄
 
If Dumas ends up at UTEP I would expect Wlillie Eldridge and/or Hankins to transfer out.
During the first part of the season, prior to his redshirt, Willie was given a few carriers and I think he was a really quick and slashing runner. I like what I saw but it wasn't enough for me to compare to Hankins and Awatt. Hankins is downhill and will run people over but he spent most of the season battling nagging injuries. Awatt is a bit quicker with a little more elusive tendencies but neither are the quick and explosive style that we loved in Aaron Jones.

It is my honest opinion that while Awatt, Wadley and Hankins did a decent job, they weren't the homerun threat we needed to open up the passing game. If I'm not mistaken, they all missed time due to injury and I don't think any of them actually got rolling like we needed. I want to see more of Eldridge but bringing in Dumas would only increase the competition.

It's all a dream until we see where AD lands.
 
During the first part of the season, prior to his redshirt, Willie was given a few carriers and I think he was a really quick and slashing runner. I like what I saw but it wasn't enough for me to compare to Hankins and Awatt. Hankins is downhill and will run people over but he spent most of the season battling nagging injuries. Awatt is a bit quicker with a little more elusive tendencies but neither are the quick and explosive style that we loved in Aaron Jones.

It is my honest opinion that while Awatt, Wadley and Hankins did a decent job, they weren't the homerun threat we needed to open up the passing game. If I'm not mistaken, they all missed time due to injury and I don't think any of them actually got rolling like we needed. I want to see more of Eldridge but bringing in Dumas would only increase the competition.

It's all a dream until we see where AD lands.
Awatt had better stats this year than Dumas did. Dumas would strengthen the rb group but is he better than our current rb's?
 
He's not coming to UTEP. There's some issues that won't be overcome. Most likely he'll be at a P5 school.
 
Mid majors are becoming the new jucos...not sure mid major players entering the TP will want to go from one mm/juco to antoher...Here's hoping AD comes home, but not counting on it.
 
But he would be giving up an indoor practice facility by coming to UTEP 🙄
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Ubben: There is one clear way to stop the chaotic roster turnover taking over college football​

SAN ANTONIO, TX - DECEMBER 29: Oklahoma Sooners quarterback Caleb Williams (13) runs the ball against the Oregon Ducks during the Valero Alamo Bowl football game at the Alamodome on December 29, 2021 in San Antonio, TX. (Photo by Adam Davis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)

By David Ubben Jan 6, 2022
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The complaining is deafening and everpresent.

“It’s chaos right now. Tampering galore. Adults manipulating young men,” said Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney, long the most prominent opponent of the transfer portal, who recently softened his stance and offered Louisiana transfer O’Cyrus Torrence this week. “Education is like the last thing now.”
“Out of control,” one Power 5 coach told The Athletic.

Neither is wrong. College football got a lot less exploitative in the past year, but it also got way, way more chaotic. In the past two months, more than 1,500 FBS players have entered the transfer portal, seeking a new home to continue their college football careers.

As he built his new staff, Florida head coach Billy Napier hired former NFL scout Bird Sherrill to essentially oversee all recruiting of the transfer portal. It’s currently a rarity, but it’ll become very common soon.

Oklahoma quarterback Caleb Williams led Oklahoma to an Alamo Bowl victory on Dec. 29, then, less than a week later, turned down the opportunity to be the Sooners’ starting quarterback under new offensive coordinator Jeff Lebby in 2022. Like Spencer Rattler, the preseason Heisman candidate he usurped as starter midseason, Williams entered the portal.
Oklahoma’s response? It first released an unprecedented joint statement extolling the benefits of staying. Then it flipped Dillon Gabriel, who had committed to UCLA and is now on his way to Norman.

Meanwhile, one former NFL quarterback publicly offered Williams $1 million to go to Eastern Michigan, his alma mater. (Note: That arrangement, as phrased, is almost certainly illegal, although it’s highly unlikely to be an offer Williams accepts. Name, image and likeness deals cannot be based on pay for play.)
College football has barreled headfirst into a new world, and NIL money has teamed up with the NCAA’s now-allowable one free transfer to produce the single most roster upheaval in any one offseason in college football history.
There have been more shifting allegiances than in a season of “Cobra Kai.”
It feels a lot more likely to be a negative development for college football than a positive one, but college football today is a far less inherently exploitative enterprise than it was a year ago. That’s a good thing, even if the sport requires further adjustment to reach a serviceable stopping point for its current state of upheaval.

Preventing the sport from becoming more fair and equitable is never the right decision if maintaining the sport’s health comes at the cost of continuing to allow everyone involved to benefit except players.
In short: Player freedom is good. But this amount of turnover is not likely to help the sport, and it’s even more likely to cost players scholarships and degrees as they enter the portal but struggle to find a serviceable way out.
The unprecedented player movement might leave fans less invested. It worsened an already barely sustainable quality of life for coaches, who are left recruiting high school prospects and now their own rosters and opposing rosters with players who elected to transfer.

There’s a fix, and it’s a familiar refrain: Pay the players.
It always has been the right thing to do. But now it’s the price of returning to some level of sanity in roster construction and maintenance.
College football, as currently constructed, leaves programs with zero right to decide where players are allowed to pursue their education and play out their careers. The free transfer was long overdue. Coaches weren’t subject to non-compete clauses when they left for better jobs or were told they weren’t good enough to continue doing their current jobs. And yet, unpaid players were. It was the definition of a power imbalance.

And while free agency has arrived in college football, it’s a lot more like an annual fantasy draft for 130 programs, especially for those who believe tampering is rampant. But there’s a reason free agency doesn’t run wild every offseason in professional sports.

Contracts. That pay real money. (Sorry for getting you excited about restricted, free labor, NCAA.)

That gives a program (dare I say, employer) a right to restrict a player’s movement without exploiting that player. College sports are at a crossroads: live with the chaos, tampering and impossible roster management or take the final step toward making college football a truly equitable enterprise and make players sign contracts that require them to remain at a campus for a set period and also allow them to earn money.

Now, the impact of NIL money on players’ free trips into the transfer portal might push decision-makers to finally employ a long-overdue fix.

Unlike NIL, there are a host of issues in turning the concept of player contracts into reality. Title IX is a hurdle. The entire economic structure of college athletic departments is a hurdle. Smaller programs might not be able to keep up. News flash: They can’t keep up now.

There are no easy answers to those fair questions. But college sports’ economic model long has been broken and is badly in need of a reset. And hurdles can be cleared.

Again, it’s not simple. But it’s the only way to calm the roster pandemonium.
And it’s the right thing to do, and when major athletic departments routinely clear nine digits in annual revenue, the “we don’t have the money” complaints ring extremely hollow.

“Finding the money” would require a budget overhaul that completely changes how athletic departments are run. That’s a good thing for the future of college sports.
And those who cry about the “professionalization” of college sports have an admirable amount of willful ignorance toward every other aspect of college sports. What, pray tell, is amateur about getting paid $2.64 billion for six years of TV rights? And why shouldn’t athletes, whose work those companies are paying to broadcast, get a cut?

This amount of roster turnover every year isn’t a positive development for the sport. But there’s no going back now. And we shouldn’t.

The only way to fix it is to take another step forward into a place where college football should have lived a long time ago.
 

Ubben: There is one clear way to stop the chaotic roster turnover taking over college football​

SAN ANTONIO, TX - DECEMBER 29: Oklahoma Sooners quarterback Caleb Williams (13) runs the ball against the Oregon Ducks during the Valero Alamo Bowl football game at the Alamodome on December 29, 2021 in San Antonio, TX. (Photo by Adam Davis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)

By David Ubben Jan 6, 2022
comment-icon@2x.png
295
save-icon@2x.png

The complaining is deafening and everpresent.

“It’s chaos right now. Tampering galore. Adults manipulating young men,” said Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney, long the most prominent opponent of the transfer portal, who recently softened his stance and offered Louisiana transfer O’Cyrus Torrence this week. “Education is like the last thing now.”
“Out of control,” one Power 5 coach told The Athletic.

Neither is wrong. College football got a lot less exploitative in the past year, but it also got way, way more chaotic. In the past two months, more than 1,500 FBS players have entered the transfer portal, seeking a new home to continue their college football careers.

As he built his new staff, Florida head coach Billy Napier hired former NFL scout Bird Sherrill to essentially oversee all recruiting of the transfer portal. It’s currently a rarity, but it’ll become very common soon.

Oklahoma quarterback Caleb Williams led Oklahoma to an Alamo Bowl victory on Dec. 29, then, less than a week later, turned down the opportunity to be the Sooners’ starting quarterback under new offensive coordinator Jeff Lebby in 2022. Like Spencer Rattler, the preseason Heisman candidate he usurped as starter midseason, Williams entered the portal.
Oklahoma’s response? It first released an unprecedented joint statement extolling the benefits of staying. Then it flipped Dillon Gabriel, who had committed to UCLA and is now on his way to Norman.

Meanwhile, one former NFL quarterback publicly offered Williams $1 million to go to Eastern Michigan, his alma mater. (Note: That arrangement, as phrased, is almost certainly illegal, although it’s highly unlikely to be an offer Williams accepts. Name, image and likeness deals cannot be based on pay for play.)
College football has barreled headfirst into a new world, and NIL money has teamed up with the NCAA’s now-allowable one free transfer to produce the single most roster upheaval in any one offseason in college football history.
There have been more shifting allegiances than in a season of “Cobra Kai.”
It feels a lot more likely to be a negative development for college football than a positive one, but college football today is a far less inherently exploitative enterprise than it was a year ago. That’s a good thing, even if the sport requires further adjustment to reach a serviceable stopping point for its current state of upheaval.

Preventing the sport from becoming more fair and equitable is never the right decision if maintaining the sport’s health comes at the cost of continuing to allow everyone involved to benefit except players.
In short: Player freedom is good. But this amount of turnover is not likely to help the sport, and it’s even more likely to cost players scholarships and degrees as they enter the portal but struggle to find a serviceable way out.
The unprecedented player movement might leave fans less invested. It worsened an already barely sustainable quality of life for coaches, who are left recruiting high school prospects and now their own rosters and opposing rosters with players who elected to transfer.

There’s a fix, and it’s a familiar refrain: Pay the players.
It always has been the right thing to do. But now it’s the price of returning to some level of sanity in roster construction and maintenance.
College football, as currently constructed, leaves programs with zero right to decide where players are allowed to pursue their education and play out their careers. The free transfer was long overdue. Coaches weren’t subject to non-compete clauses when they left for better jobs or were told they weren’t good enough to continue doing their current jobs. And yet, unpaid players were. It was the definition of a power imbalance.

And while free agency has arrived in college football, it’s a lot more like an annual fantasy draft for 130 programs, especially for those who believe tampering is rampant. But there’s a reason free agency doesn’t run wild every offseason in professional sports.

Contracts. That pay real money. (Sorry for getting you excited about restricted, free labor, NCAA.)

That gives a program (dare I say, employer) a right to restrict a player’s movement without exploiting that player. College sports are at a crossroads: live with the chaos, tampering and impossible roster management or take the final step toward making college football a truly equitable enterprise and make players sign contracts that require them to remain at a campus for a set period and also allow them to earn money.

Now, the impact of NIL money on players’ free trips into the transfer portal might push decision-makers to finally employ a long-overdue fix.

Unlike NIL, there are a host of issues in turning the concept of player contracts into reality. Title IX is a hurdle. The entire economic structure of college athletic departments is a hurdle. Smaller programs might not be able to keep up. News flash: They can’t keep up now.

There are no easy answers to those fair questions. But college sports’ economic model long has been broken and is badly in need of a reset. And hurdles can be cleared.

Again, it’s not simple. But it’s the only way to calm the roster pandemonium.
And it’s the right thing to do, and when major athletic departments routinely clear nine digits in annual revenue, the “we don’t have the money” complaints ring extremely hollow.

“Finding the money” would require a budget overhaul that completely changes how athletic departments are run. That’s a good thing for the future of college sports.
And those who cry about the “professionalization” of college sports have an admirable amount of willful ignorance toward every other aspect of college sports. What, pray tell, is amateur about getting paid $2.64 billion for six years of TV rights? And why shouldn’t athletes, whose work those companies are paying to broadcast, get a cut?

This amount of roster turnover every year isn’t a positive development for the sport. But there’s no going back now. And we shouldn’t.

The only way to fix it is to take another step forward into a place where college football should have lived a long time ago.
Gave a solution but asked a few questions he said were difficult to answer. If you can’t answer your own questions you don’t have a solution.
 
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Gave a solution but asked a few questions he said were difficult to answer. If you can’t answer your own questions you don’t have a solution.
I think the difficult questions he poses just highlight that there isn’t a perfect solution that will satisfy everybody.

He does provide an answer on how to create some sense of stability and that’s by having student athletes sign contracts to stay in place for a pre determined amount of time.
 
I think the difficult questions he poses just highlight that there isn’t a perfect solution that will satisfy everybody.

He does provide an answer on how to create some sense of stability and that’s by having student athletes sign contracts to stay in place for a pre determined amount of time.
I've been saying this forever. Make them legal contracts with a money value(pay them). That prevents them legally from going anywhere unless the school is compensated for it.
 
Can’t pay to play yet, maybe once he gets his sports bar open they can do a NIL.
 
Or he could set up a non profit and have all scholarship RBs 'work' there for 50k a year?
 
I think the best hope for UTEP to find a consistent way to offer money with NIL, is if Mountain Star was to decide to help out and if they were to add UTEP players to their payroll(obviously, under the correct structure). It woud have to be a charity effort from Mountain Star, but if they could somehow include a type of a salary for UTEP players into the player budgets that they have for their Locomotive and Bravos players. Not sure that there is any other organization that would have the capability or appetitite to do something that big.

Speaking Rock has developed into a good partner with UTEP. I think their efforts would be better off by offering NIL deals, as opposed to UTEP marketing deals and concerts. The issue is that Speaking Rock would likely need to have their casino come back, in order to have the type of money that would move the needle.
 
Maybe us Minerdigs could sponsor a player?? I will put up $5 a month.
 
If UTEP offered Dumas, I expect a UTEP RB to hit the transfer portal
UTEP has offered. I think he ends up at Washington and I am betting there was likely tampering involved. Dumas was recruited by Fresno State and then went off against Fresno State. The Fresno Coach gets the job in Washington, Aaron then decides to enter the Portal, and ends up with an offer from Washington.
 
This was meant to be. I hope that he and Hankins make the best one, two punch in the conference. With a solid run game, we won't have to rely too heavily on passing. I know many on this board have lost confidence in Gavin Hardison but I still think that he has the skills to play well. With Smith returning from Texas A&M, this could be a good thing. It will definitely be an interesting year.
 
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