Furthermore, Ricky Stokes was making $240,000 at ECU when Barbee has hired. Again, Barbee wasn’t making scraps.
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Yeah true. Tom Penders was making 450k around that time.I seriously doubt Barbee was making “scraps”. They were in CUSA coming off two recent coach defections. 300k in 2006 is a lot different than 300k in 2020.
His tenure at Auburn resulted with these numbers:
49 wins
76 losses
This is the lowest winning percentage (.395%) of any Auburn coach with more than a two season tenure in the history of the school.
Good recruiter, good at recognizing talent, good assistant. Good head coach????? Not much evidence to support that beyond what he did at UTEP.
That lack of a contract is the biggest mistake for the entire athletic program imoI know that when Gillespie left, the donors pooled together and were able to offer about $900K/year to him, but the A&M offer was still too much and he didn't actually have a contract. Maybe the boosters did not want to be rejected again after being rejected by Gillespie? Not an excuse, but trying to understand the thinking
What a losing mentality we have. “Let’s not offer our coach a contract cuz he’s going to reject it like the last coach.”I know that when Gillespie left, the donors pooled together and were able to offer about $900K/year to him, but the A&M offer was still too much and he didn't actually have a contract. Maybe the boosters did not want to be rejected again after being rejected by Gillespie? Not an excuse, but trying to understand the thinking
I believe it.I know that when Gillespie left, the donors pooled together and were able to offer about $900K/year to him, but the A&M offer was still too much and he didn't actually have a contract. Maybe the boosters did not want to be rejected again after being rejected by Gillespie? Not an excuse, but trying to understand the thinking
What I remember is him saying, "I'll be here as long as you'll have me".I believe it.
Do you all remember the infamous Kiki's Restaurant meeting with the TAMU AD? According to sources, since they brought an open checkbook, BG made the aggies also commit to his creation of basketball culture/support similar to UTEP's, otherwise what's the point of going to football first school? He specifically did not want to play 2nd fiddle to the football coach.
2step is right with his recollection of the KiKi’s diner thing. You just have selective hearing/memoryWhat I remember is him saying, "I'll be here as long as you'll have me".
My selective memory is that when he was asked about the rumors that he might be leaving, his response was, "I'll be here as long as you'll have me". And then he left!2step is right with his recollection of the KiKi’s diner thing. You just have selective hearing/memory
My selective memory is that when he was asked about the rumors that he might be leaving, his response was, "I'll be here as long as you'll have me". And then he left!
My selective memory is that when he was asked about the rumors that he might be leaving, his response was, "I'll be here as long as you'll have me". And then he left!
He was blindsided after landing the Auburn job due to recruiting violations that happened before he arrived. His hands were tied somewhat by new restrictions placed on recruits leading Barbee to proclaim openly at a press conference during his tenure that IF he'd known about the changes, he'd still be at UTEP.DIAMOND HEAD CLASSIC
Dec. 25, 2011
UTEP 83- Auburn 76 (head coach Tony Barbee)
I remember at the time how gratifying it was to beat him after leaving us.
His tenure at Auburn resulted with these numbers:
49 wins
76 losses
This is the lowest winning percentage (.395%) of any Auburn coach with more than a two season tenure in the history of the school.
Good recruiter, good at recognizing talent, good assistant. Good head coach????? Not much evidence to support that beyond what he did at UTEP.
Good recruiter, good at recognizing talent, and a good assistant......all traits of a good HC.DIAMOND HEAD CLASSIC
Dec. 25, 2011
UTEP 83- Auburn 76 (head coach Tony Barbee)
I remember at the time how gratifying it was to beat him after leaving us.
His tenure at Auburn resulted with these numbers:
49 wins
76 losses
This is the lowest winning percentage (.395%) of any Auburn coach with more than a two season tenure in the history of the school.
Good recruiter, good at recognizing talent, good assistant. Good head coach????? Not much evidence to support that beyond what he did at UTEP.
Imo he was crying because he was torn. El Paso embraced him and the feeling was mutual. As much as he wanted to stay he knew he had bigger things to accomplish.I’ll always remember the video of him crying on campus when he said he was leaving. I always wondered if he was sad that he was leaving or was he crying tears of joy because he was about to make a f*ck load of money.
Mike Price said that. Billy G, on the other hand, never even signed a contract.What I remember is him saying, "I'll be here as long as you'll have me".
He was crying because the salsa at Kiki's was too hot.Imo he was crying because he was torn.
And Mike Price tried hard to get the ASU job too. Bottom line....coaching is a business and don't believe them. UTEP is always going to be a stepping stone.Mike Price said that. Billy G, on the other hand, never even signed a contract.
Never heard that. Source?And Mike Price tried hard to get the ASU job too. Bottom line....coaching is a business and don't believe them. UTEP is always going to be a stepping stone.
Never heard that. Source?
Imo he was crying because he was torn. El Paso embraced him and the feeling was mutual. As much as he wanted to stay he knew he had bigger things to accomplish.
I don’t think it was about the money. If it’s true that UTEP was ready to offer him 900k that’s a very competitive salary. A&M started him at 1.2. There’s really not that much difference in money.
And Mike Price tried hard to get the ASU job too. Bottom line....coaching is a business and don't believe them. UTEP is always going to be a stepping stone.
This is where Stull messed. He made decent hires (aside from maybe Kugler), but was never able recognize when and how to build on momentum or when to fire coaches.He also tried to go back to Washington State when their job opened up. I think that he was devastated that he wasn't seriously considered. I've often wondered about his lack of success here after those first two seasons. I have two theories:
- He simply didn't know how to recruit to El Paso
- After seeing that he had no shot at ASU or WSU, despite trying to rehab his image in El Paso, he lost his fire
I don't know if it's one of these reasons or something else. It's too bad that he couldn't build on the momentum from those first two seasons.
Source?He also tried to go back to Washington State when their job opened up. I think that he was devastated that he wasn't seriously considered. I've often wondered about his lack of success here after those first two seasons. I have two theories:
- He simply didn't know how to recruit to El Paso
- After seeing that he had no shot at ASU or WSU, despite trying to rehab his image in El Paso, he lost his fire
I don't know if it's one of these reasons or something else. It's too bad that he couldn't build on the momentum from those first two seasons.
This is where Stull messed. He made decent hires (aside from maybe Kugler), but was never able recognize when and how to build on momentum or when to fire coaches.
Maybe Terry will be offered his dream job at Texas after Shaka Smarts recent disaster. LOL.
Just jokin uni! Don't think he's on anyone's radar right nowNah. He’d have to be lighting it up this year to even be considered.
David Lee was not a good hire. Lee brings in Bailey on defense. Bailey get hired. Bailey then hires Nord. Nord gets hired. Stull tries "outside the box" and hires Price. Price does great with Nord recruits, falls on his fanny after (tries to pitch himself quietly for ASU which not only fails badly, but it goes public). Bob misses those incestuous pangs in his gut that started under the coach who replaced him and hires Bailey's favorite son and alum, Kugler. First thing Kugler does on UTEP soil? Trash Price.This is where Stull messed. He made decent hires (aside from maybe Kugler), but was never able recognize when and how to build on momentum or when to fire coaches.
Imo he was crying because he was torn. El Paso embraced him and the feeling was mutual. As much as he wanted to stay he knew he had bigger things to accomplish.
I don’t think it was about the money. If it’s true that UTEP was ready to offer him 900k that’s a very competitive salary. A&M started him at 1.2. There’s really not that much difference in money.
Imo he was crying because he was torn. El Paso embraced him and the feeling was mutual. As much as he wanted to stay he knew he had bigger things to accomplish.
I don’t think it was about the money. If it’s true that UTEP was ready to offer him 900k that’s a very competitive salary. A&M started him at 1.2. There’s really not that much difference in money.
Thank you for speaking the truth. I dislike how everyone blames Barbee with some lame “he didn’t like El Paso” excuse.For those that don't know. Floyd was in El Paso during Barbee's last year and was with Stull a lot, on and off campus. The two would watch UTEP practice and Floyd would tell Stull that if he was the coach of those players the team would for sure be an elite 8 team. Barbee wanted a pay increase and Stull would not give it to him because of Stull's relationship with Floyd. When Stull wouldn't even listen to Barbee about more money, Barbee felt disrespected and looked for a higher paying job and left. He would have stayed at least 1-2 more years if Stull would have doubled his pay, but Stull bought the Floyd BS and let Barbee walk. I wasn't a big fan of Barbee for a few other reasons but Stull wet the bed big time with Barbee.
For those that don't know. Floyd was in El Paso during Barbee's last year and was with Stull a lot, on and off campus. The two would watch UTEP practice and Floyd would tell Stull that if he was the coach of those players the team would for sure be an elite 8 team. Barbee wanted a pay increase and Stull would not give it to him because of Stull's relationship with Floyd. When Stull wouldn't even listen to Barbee about more money, Barbee felt disrespected and looked for a higher paying job and left. He would have stayed at least 1-2 more years if Stull would have doubled his pay, but Stull bought the Floyd BS and let Barbee walk. I wasn't a big fan of Barbee for a few other reasons but Stull wet the bed big time with Barbee.
I don’t know how true all of this is, only because I have never really heard that and nor was I there. But I could believe it because of Stull played a lot of “buddy ball” as his career wound down. I know a lot of people aren’t big fans of Senter but I would take him at his worst over Stull any day of the week.
For those that don't know. Floyd was in El Paso during Barbee's last year and was with Stull a lot, on and off campus. The two would watch UTEP practice and Floyd would tell Stull that if he was the coach of those players the team would for sure be an elite 8 team. Barbee wanted a pay increase and Stull would not give it to him because of Stull's relationship with Floyd. When Stull wouldn't even listen to Barbee about more money, Barbee felt disrespected and looked for a higher paying job and left. He would have stayed at least 1-2 more years if Stull would have doubled his pay, but Stull bought the Floyd BS and let Barbee walk. I wasn't a big fan of Barbee for a few other reasons but Stull wet the bed big time with Barbee.