Buy One Get One Free Tickets for Friday's Game
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This is equivalent to the $5 ticket promotions we have suggested in the past. Hopefully it translates into more people in the Sun Bowl Friday night.
Didn't Bill Cords, or was it the AD before him, who introduced this to get free tickets at the door?
"Roman Meal Wrapper Night"
Guess UTEP is one step away from those nights again?
Cords also gives himself credit for turning around UTEP athletics when he was here.
"Prior to arriving at Marquette in 1987, Cords was the athletics director at the University of Texas-El Paso. During his five-year tenure, a strong broad-based program was developed with a rapidly improving football program, development of a women's athletic conference, a very successful men's basketball program, and highlighted by the elimination of a previous $1 million deficit." [source: http://www.gomarquette.com/genrel/bill_cords_881784.html ]
"Roman Meal Wrapper Night"
Guess UTEP is one step away from those nights again?
Cords also gives himself credit for turning around UTEP athletics when he was here.
"Prior to arriving at Marquette in 1987, Cords was the athletics director at the University of Texas-El Paso. During his five-year tenure, a strong broad-based program was developed with a rapidly improving football program, development of a women's athletic conference, a very successful men's basketball program, and highlighted by the elimination of a previous $1 million deficit." [source: http://www.gomarquette.com/genrel/bill_cords_881784.html ]
A six pm game on Friday night during high school football season is terrible. I think we will lose 4 k of our loyal base to high school games, especially considering its senior night for half the schools. I hope we have 20 k but I really doubt it.
Actually, during the dumpster fire era, UTEP almost sold out the Sun Bowl on a Friday night for a UTEP vs Tulsa televised game and witnessed Donald Buckram get the win for UTEP.
They also had one against Houston when they had Kolb back then when UTEP initially joined CUSA. The Sun Bowl sold out and it was a Friday. That's when cheater Briles was with Houston still.
They also had one against Houston when they had Kolb back then when UTEP initially joined CUSA. The Sun Bowl sold out and it was a Friday. That's when cheater Briles was with Houston still.
The Tulsa game was a wednesday game. There were 37,000 people there. I have no idea why you keep bring up the price era. We had seven straight losing seasons, we played terrible fundamental football. He couldnt do anything without Nord's recruits. It was a losing era. The biggest mistake Stull has made is letting Price have nine seasons. We lost alot of casual fans because of it.
That's right, it was Wednesday game.
Price brought up attendance dramatically and season ticket sales, facts are facts. Just like I was reading the 2013 write up on Bob Stull and how he has transformed UTEP. Many UTEP supporters want him to retire because of poor football play over the years, but that doesn't hide a glaring fact that he literally did upgrade UTEP athletics in a major way; and the hiring of Price saw the business community get on the bus big time, outside of UTEP's walls.
I specifically remember reading on here, speaking with local business people and just regular folks always saying that Mike Price would come up to them and shake their hand and/or just say hello. That's not Kugler's style? Fine, so be it. Just don't alienate the "casual" fans with comments saying he doesn't need those types. That was just a plain stupid comment made out of frustration. But the thing is, he knows better.
Kugler era has seen declines, but yet the local media blames El Paso fans.......nice!
Price brought up attendance dramatically and season ticket sales, facts are facts. Just like I was reading the 2013 write up on Bob Stull and how he has transformed UTEP. Many UTEP supporters want him to retire because of poor football play over the years, but that doesn't hide a glaring fact that he literally did upgrade UTEP athletics in a major way; and the hiring of Price saw the business community get on the bus big time, outside of UTEP's walls.
I specifically remember reading on here, speaking with local business people and just regular folks always saying that Mike Price would come up to them and shake their hand and/or just say hello. That's not Kugler's style? Fine, so be it. Just don't alienate the "casual" fans with comments saying he doesn't need those types. That was just a plain stupid comment made out of frustration. But the thing is, he knows better.
Kugler era has seen declines, but yet the local media blames El Paso fans.......nice!
Annnd, with the game on TV on a Friday night (high school football) is not going to help at all.
Last season, while at basketball games, Kugler was always very friendly to my friends and I when we reached out to say hello. He's a hard ass on the clock. He seems to be a normal guy off the clock.
Ya Price had those losing seasons but his style of football was a lot more entertaining to watch than a Kugler style of football. Prices offense was entertaining, Kuglers offense is like watching paint dry. Thats why Price averaged way more fans than Kugler.
Not true we averaged over 40,000 in 2000 and over 30,000 in 2001 and 2002 during two win seasons under Nord. We slipped to 20000 during 2003 after a third straight 2 win season.
Price didnt add fans they were already there. By keeping Price to long Stull eroded our fan base. When you arent committed to winning you lose fans.
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I remember UTEP against NMSU just fresh off their ASU upset the week before. That was an exciting game. Damn that game was loud.
But then he gave his son the keys to the car and what was once a bad ass Camaro, became a Volare.
In Price's last season (his worst season), he attracted (and I'm even taking out the Oklahoma game) about 7,000 more fans than in Nord's last season. It's no secret Price added a boost to UTEP football and gained thousands of casual fans to regular fans.
Not a great comparison. In Nord's last year he lost at home to Cal Poly by three touchdowns, there is no saving attendance after a three touchdown loss to an fcs school.
The 27k average attendance was after 7 straight losing seasons. That a very fair comparison. Deny it all you want, but it's very clear Price did a lot to attract new fans.
Mike Price was a National coach of the year, he was the biggest name UTEP could hire as football coach(only because of his indiscretions at a strip club) . It's hard to deny that such a big name coach didn't revitalize the football program and brought more fans to the fore .
You don't even have to compare stats on this one. I went to like 95% ofthe Price home games and all of Kuglers home games, and there is no comparison. There were many more fans in the stands at a Price home games than a Kugler home games. Attendance is declining fast with Kugler here.
He definitely gave jolt of energy to the fanbase. However, I dont think he added new fans. His average attendance numbers were on par with Nord's first three years.He did bring the fans back.
However you want to put it- he did add new fans, old fans, whatever back to the core fan base.
Kugler has no excuse now, he has the best that conference USA has to offer. Price and Nord had to play poopy teams at the sun bowl.
These next two home games will tell us a great deal about who we are.
Price definately did a better job of attracting attendance compared to Kugler thus far. Price deserves credit for the efforts and positive attitude that he put into that area.
When trying to compare the two; Kugler has had an added difficulty that he can not control, because Price had Home games against schools like: Houston, Tulsa, SMU, which were regional schools that people had at least heard of. Even when giving past examples in support of Price above, UTEP2Step uses the Houston and Tulsa games as his attendance examples. El Pasoans(and really anybody) would much rather see UTEP play regional schools like Houston, Tulsa or SMU. People just aren't as interested in going to see FAU, FIU, or Old Dominion. The change in CSUA teams has hurt attendance and Kugler hasn't had any control over that. Kugler has also only been given 5 Homes Games in 2 of his 3 years here, which also makes it a little more difficult to build attendance momentum. This past year, UTEP was the last team in the country to have a Home Game which also didn't help.
When trying to compare the two; Kugler has had an added difficulty that he can not control, because Price had Home games against schools like: Houston, Tulsa, SMU, which were regional schools that people had at least heard of. Even when giving past examples in support of Price above, UTEP2Step uses the Houston and Tulsa games as his attendance examples. El Pasoans(and really anybody) would much rather see UTEP play regional schools like Houston, Tulsa or SMU. People just aren't as interested in going to see FAU, FIU, or Old Dominion. The change in CSUA teams has hurt attendance and Kugler hasn't had any control over that. Kugler has also only been given 5 Homes Games in 2 of his 3 years here, which also makes it a little more difficult to build attendance momentum. This past year, UTEP was the last team in the country to have a Home Game which also didn't help.
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Yeah, and Price also had ROAD games against Houston, Tulsa, and SMU. UTEP people I talk to say El Paso is staying away from the Sun Bowl in droves these days because of the quality of the product. UTEP is playing bad football against bad teams. Even in his twilight, Price's UTEP teams were generally competitive against incrementally stronger competition. Even when Stull lined up body bag games against Landry Jones and Oklahoma, Bo Wallace and Ole Miss, and Monte Ball and Wisconsin - IN THE SAME SEASON - UTEP played those teams well, but they also faced Case Keenum and Houston, J.G. Kinney and Tulsa, Blake Bortles and UCF, Garrett Gilbert and SMU, etc. Price didn't win enough and he's rightfully gone, but his teams were almost always competitive, rarely blown out.
By comparison, Kugler has faced glactically soft competition. How bad? Tthis year's schedule ranked 127/128 teams in the FBS. Blowout loss after blowout loss against winning programs. And after three seasons he STILL hasn't played the best program in the conference. But that's not even the point. Kugler doesn't control his schedule or the conference he's in, but he DOES control the quality of the on-field product. So win - or at least be competitive - even if you're playing bad teams.
El Paso will support a quality product...
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