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McSwiggan denied eligibility acording to Kappy

That sucks. Is he going to lose a year of eligibility or will he be a freshman next year?
 
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I wonder if UTEP will sue?(as others have done), or if they will give up the fight? I guess we will find out when UTEP makes it's official comment.
 
Kappy via Twitter: "The NCAA said McSwiggan delayed his enrollment despite qualifying and he cleared the academics. It's total garbage."
 
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How is it delayed enrollment if thirteen years is how they do it in England. He's getting punished for following English high school standards?! Then how else can a young man from England play college ball in the USA?
 
THEN WHY IN THE HELL ARE BYU PLAYERS HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD? They are "delaying enrollment" to go on their religious missions? They're almost in their mid 20's by the time they get back!I don't get it?
 
How is it delayed enrollment if thirteen years is how they do it in England. He's getting punished for following English high school standards?! Then how else can a young man from England play college ball in the USA?

To me it sounds like he was accepted to UTEP, then remember how he didn't actually come to EP until the very end of the summer? He played in the Euro championships and then for another 3-4 weeks was no where near EP. I remember people even wondering if he was still coming right up until school started. I wonder if that is the delay in enrollment in question. Regardless, he qualified, is enrolled NOW in classes. What the gd problem, NCAA?

EDIT: Never mind. I just read the piece on MR. You were on the right track, 2step.
 
The Delayed Enrollment
Generally athletes have one year after they graduate from high school to enroll in college. During that year, they can continue playing their sport with no penalty. After the one-year grace period, athletes must stop competing in their sport in order to preserve their eligibility. That date is always extended to the next opportunity to enroll. That means if a prospect graduates in May 2013, he or she has until Fall 2014 to enroll.

The graduation date that starts the grace period is either an athlete’s expected graduation date based on when he or she started ninth grade or the athlete’s actual graduation date, whichever is earlier. So if an athlete graduates early, the start of the grace period moves up. But if an athlete graduates late, it does not move back.

Only competition is prohibited after the grace period. Athletes may still train and practice with a team or coach indefinitely after they graduate high school, so long as he or she does not appear in organized competition. Competition is on a yearly basis. If you play one game during a year, it is the same as playing an entire season.

The penalty for delaying enrollment and competing past the grace period is that an athlete may not compete their first year enrolled in college and the athlete loses one year of eligibility for every year he or she competed after the grace period. Here is an example:

Jane plays soccer in England. Jane graduates from high school in May 2012. Jane continues to play soccer in England and does not enroll in college.

  • If Jane plays in a game between May 2012 and August 2013: no penalty.
  • If Jane plays in one or more games between August 2013 and August 2014: sit out one year, lose one season of eligibility.
  • If Jane also plays in one or more games between August 2014 and August 2015: sit out one year, lose two seasons of eligibility.
  • If Jane also plays in one or more games between August 2015 and August 2016: sit out one year, lose three seasons of eligibility.
  • If Jane also plays in one or more games between August 2016 and August 2017: loses all seasons of eligibility.
What Prospects Can Do
Prospects can avoid problems first by knowing when their graduation date is. That means knowing both your actual graduation date and what your expected graduation date is based on the educational system in your country and when you started ninth grade. Always work off the earlier one.

Prospects in tennis should be especially aware because they have only a six-month grace period. That generally means that a prospect can delay enrollment for one semester or two quarters before they start to lose eligibility if they continue competing.
Prospects who want to delay enrollment for athletic or recruiting reasons should have a plan for the time after high school graduation. This includes knowing when the prospect will no longer compete in events. Prospects should be upfront and talk to their club or prep coaches early, and make sure they understand why you will want to stop competing.

Finally, prospects should keep detailed records of every competition they appear in after finishing high school (or after their expected graduation date). The NCAA Eligibility Center asks prospects to list every event or competition they competed in after high school. Having this ready will reduce hassles, especially for prospects who register late with the Eligibility Center.

Do you have any questions about your eligibility? Just ask us in the comments section below, or connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, or Google+!
 
The Delayed Enrollment
Generally athletes have one year after they graduate from high school to enroll in college. During that year, they can continue playing their sport with no penalty. After the one-year grace period, athletes must stop competing in their sport in order to preserve their eligibility. That date is always extended to the next opportunity to enroll. That means if a prospect graduates in May 2013, he or she has until Fall 2014 to enroll.

The graduation date that starts the grace period is either an athlete’s expected graduation date based on when he or she started ninth grade or the athlete’s actual graduation date, whichever is earlier. So if an athlete graduates early, the start of the grace period moves up. But if an athlete graduates late, it does not move back.

Only competition is prohibited after the grace period. Athletes may still train and practice with a team or coach indefinitely after they graduate high school, so long as he or she does not appear in organized competition. Competition is on a yearly basis. If you play one game during a year, it is the same as playing an entire season.

The penalty for delaying enrollment and competing past the grace period is that an athlete may not compete their first year enrolled in college and the athlete loses one year of eligibility for every year he or she competed after the grace period. Here is an example:

Jane plays soccer in England. Jane graduates from high school in May 2012. Jane continues to play soccer in England and does not enroll in college.

  • If Jane plays in a game between May 2012 and August 2013: no penalty.
  • If Jane plays in one or more games between August 2013 and August 2014: sit out one year, lose one season of eligibility.
  • If Jane also plays in one or more games between August 2014 and August 2015: sit out one year, lose two seasons of eligibility.
  • If Jane also plays in one or more games between August 2015 and August 2016: sit out one year, lose three seasons of eligibility.
  • If Jane also plays in one or more games between August 2016 and August 2017: loses all seasons of eligibility.
What Prospects Can Do
Prospects can avoid problems first by knowing when their graduation date is. That means knowing both your actual graduation date and what your expected graduation date is based on the educational system in your country and when you started ninth grade. Always work off the earlier one.

Prospects in tennis should be especially aware because they have only a six-month grace period. That generally means that a prospect can delay enrollment for one semester or two quarters before they start to lose eligibility if they continue competing.
Prospects who want to delay enrollment for athletic or recruiting reasons should have a plan for the time after high school graduation. This includes knowing when the prospect will no longer compete in events. Prospects should be upfront and talk to their club or prep coaches early, and make sure they understand why you will want to stop competing.

Finally, prospects should keep detailed records of every competition they appear in after finishing high school (or after their expected graduation date). The NCAA Eligibility Center asks prospects to list every event or competition they competed in after high school. Having this ready will reduce hassles, especially for prospects who register late with the Eligibility Center.

Do you have any questions about your eligibility? Just ask us in the comments section below, or connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, or Google+!

Thanks for posting, but doesn't explain the purpose for the rule. If it's not a professional game, what difference does it make?
 
I don't understand how at a university that has so many foreign athletes in the Track, Soccer, Tennis, Rifle, and other programs, how in the world does the athletic department not flag this kid. He had no other offers. They should have done their due diligence. Instead, they saw a mixtape and made an offer. Maybe the reason he went unrecruited is because other programs knew he was a waste of a scholarship for a year. Anyway, I hope he sticks around and gets ready for next season. He can be a weapon.
 
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After reading @jdubb66 post, I am now convinced that we are not being told the entire story from UTEP.

According to the rules, it doesn't matter if they go 13 years in England. He has a 1 year grace period that would have expired on August 1, 2015. As long as he did not play an organized game prior to his enrollment at UTEP after August 1st of this year.

Either he played a game after August 1st, or the 20 year old McSwiggan finished his 12th year of high school 2 years ago.

Remember, hundreds of college basketball players play at Prep schools in which they play a 13th year of high school as a 5th year senior and do not lose a year of eligibility.

Terry Winn graduated from Melrose HS in Memphis. Then he went to Westwind Prep in Arizona for year 13. He came to UTEP with 4 years of eligibility. It's the same thing.

Something isn't right. We are being told that 'poor old UTEP is being picked on.' However, the rules are black and white as posted by @jdubb66. McSwiggan is definitely elgible without question......unless there is more to the McSwiggan background that we haven't been informed about.
 
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So curious question someone said that he loses his redshirt so wouldn't that be in a sense they are taking two years away from him? Or is it he can't use this year as a redshirt but could redshirt next year?
 
So curious question someone said that he loses his redshirt so wouldn't that be in a sense they are taking two years away from him? Or is it he can't use this year as a redshirt but could redshirt next year?

Probably could redshirt next season and start his sophomore year in 2017. You have 5 years to complete 4 years of college eligibility. The way I read it, he has burned one year so now he has 4 to complete 3. But they wouldn't redshirt him, that wouldn't make sense. He's already going to be 21 next season. And to have a guy on scholarship not see the court for 2 years is a waste.
 
But wait, there's more....questions that is.

Since he is ineligible, does he count towards our scholarships? Is UTEP allowed to pay his schooling while he waits to play next year or do they take care of it in some other creative way?
 
After reading @jdubb66 post, I am now convinced that we are not being told the entire story from UTEP.

According to the rules, it doesn't matter if they go 13 years in England. He has a 1 year grace period that would have expired on August 1, 2015. As long as he did not play an organized game prior to his enrollment at UTEP after August 1st of this year.

Either he played a game after August 1st, or the 20 year old McSwiggan finished his 12th year of high school 2 years ago.

Remember, hundreds of college basketball players play at Prep schools in which they play a 13th year of high school as a 5th year senior and do not lose a year of eligibility.

Terry Winn graduated from Melrose HS in Memphis. Then he went to Westwind Prep in Arizona for year 13. He came to UTEP with 4 years of eligibility. It's the same thing.

Something isn't right. We are being told that 'poor old UTEP is being picked on.' However, the rules are black and white as posted by @jdubb66. McSwiggan is definitely elgible without question......unless there is more to the McSwiggan background that we haven't been informed about.
The truth is out there.
 
Floyd did say he "didn't think the rule was meant for someone like McSwiggan", meaning McSwig likely is a non qualifier based on the rules
 
Probably could redshirt next season and start his sophomore year in 2017. You have 5 years to complete 4 years of college eligibility. The way I read it, he has burned one year so now he has 4 to complete 3. But they wouldn't redshirt him, that wouldn't make sense. He's already going to be 21 next season. And to have a guy on scholarship not see the court for 2 years is a waste.


I know that I was just curious not saying they would!
 
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