Why can't UTEP out-recruit these teams?
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Why can't UTEP out-recruit these teams?
A CUSA championship game here would have at least 30,000.
As to why, because fans don’t put pressure on the AD and kept going to the games. Now that Kugler put it in a nose dive, more and more fans don’t give a f anymore.
Fans that boycott and don’t attend games show the administration, you gotta do better. Fans that continuously go, tell them everything is fine.
that to me is as backwards as it gets... people who don’t show up to games show the admin they don’t care!!! The fan bases that show up have power and carry a much bigger voice than the ones that don’t ....
that to me is as backwards as it gets... people who don’t show up to games show the admin they don’t care!!! The fan bases that show up have power and carry a much bigger voice than the ones that don’t ....
If we could somehow get a GOOD coach that can recruit, then we could easily dominate CUSA. Senter needs to figure this out quick. We need a splash hire to get the ball rolling. Raise money and get it done. If UTEP wins, we would have the best attendance by far.
Invest in football and it will pay dividends for the whole university and community. UTEP is at a point where it needs to sacrifice to get things going. A student athletic fee could go a long way in this regard.
That's not a dedicated athletic fee."Student Services Fee $15.50 per credit hour, with a maximum of $186.00 (12 credit hours) A compulsory fee to fund student-related services such as intramural activities; student government, disabled student organizations, career services, cheerleaders, student publications, health services, intercollegiate athletics and others."
https://www.utep.edu/vpba/student-b...dule/summer-2018/required-fees-undergrad.html
I was at the UAB/UTEP game. Their "crowd" is almost nonexistent. Their fansite made fun of our attendance from the old Bloomquist article yeah, but they were defending Champions at the time when we had won two games in three years
They're are getting a brand new 45 000 seat stadium. It will be the nicest in C-USA and one of the very best for a g5 school. I think it will help attendance a little I think. It will be a huge upgrade to Legion field which is in a crappy part of Birmingham.
A winning team at UTEP will buck the trend.This is the biggest knock against Conference USA. Attendance for good C-USA football teams is mediocre. Ten win seasons don't get much more than for two win seasons. That's a big reason why tv revenue sucks. The conference as a whole better figure something out or it will always be a third rate conference. And UTEP is part of the problem right now. Any good ideas? I don't at the moment. Nothing that hasn't already been mentioned.
UTEP will never average over 40k again in a season.
-Change my mind.
UTEP has a unique situation where they are the only game in town in a very large city. If UTEP wins they can still draw crowds of over 40+.
They are not the only game in town and you can argue that they have lost quite a bit of fan base due to the Chihuahuas and Locomotive. Those 2 teams have been very successful and don’t have UTEP “stench”. If you have disposable ticket income, you’re more likely to spend it on the others, than UTEP. UTEP is hanging on to its older fans and praying dummies, “super fans” keep buying tickets.
Schedule Nebraska. They travel, like the Sun Bowl Stadium and grandpa loved the Mexican ladies while he was stationed at Fort Bliss.UTEP will never average over 40k again in a season.
-Change my mind.
Has UTEP ever averaged over 40K in football? I know they had games here and there with over 45K.UTEP will never average over 40k again in a season.
-Change my mind.
Has UTEP ever averaged over 40K in football? I know they had games here and there with over 45K.
That is true. Conference co champs in 2000 and Price hire lit up El Paso.Yes we averaged over 40,000 a game in 2000, 2004 2005. I think we just missed in 2008 38,000 per game
Thanks, I knew During the Mike Price era there were some near sellouts, but I had no idea that they averaged over 40K. I haven't lived in El Paso since '95. I missed the 2000 and Mike price years though I did make it to a couple of games.Yes we averaged over 40,000 a game in 2000, 2004 2005. I think we just missed in 2008 38,000 per game
After the second and third year collapse during Price days the tires started to develop a slow leak. The sickening loss to ECU at the Sun Bowl started his demise at UTEP. I can't recall a non traditional opponent leaving a disgusting feeling, maybe perhaps the Buffalo at UTEP loss comes second?I said that because we have won and the crowds didn’t come back. In 2014 Kugler was rebuilding the program. After having won only two games the previous year we entered senior night at 6-5. A bowl wasn’t guaranteed. We were essentially in a playoff game against a 6-5 MTSU team. The winner was guaranteed to go bowling. It was cold that day but the crowd was small. Officially it was 27k but far less were in the stands. That’s the kind of game that would have easily drawn over 40k. I don’t know if it was Kugler ball or the cusa 3.0 opponent. I feel that with our current conference affiliation we won’t draw the big crowds even when winning.
I said that because we have won and the crowds didn’t come back. In 2014 Kugler was rebuilding the program. After having won only two games the previous year we entered senior night at 6-5. A bowl wasn’t guaranteed. We were essentially in a playoff game against a 6-5 MTSU team. The winner was guaranteed to go bowling. It was cold that day but the crowd was small. Officially it was 27k but far less were in the stands. That’s the kind of game that would have easily drawn over 40k. I don’t know if it was Kugler ball or the cusa 3.0 opponent. I feel that with our current conference affiliation we won’t draw the big crowds even when winning.
I think two things happened. The AAC CUSA split was big. To lose the name brand schools UH SMU Tulsa Memphis ECU was terrible for the conference and our casual fan base. It was a downgrade and the unfamiliarity of new opponents combined with losing has been a disastrous combination. Stull hanging on to Price and Floyd way too long started the attendance decline. If you let a coach have seven losing seasons in a row or tells the fan base you arent committed to winning. We've lost most of the casual fans in both sports and we have no bandwagon much less bandwagon fans.
Funny thing is that ECU was the last conference game that drew over 40k to the Sun Bowl. That was back in 2007.
Are you saying that many of those fans went to the game because we were playing ECU?
They sure didn’t show up the following week for the game against Houston. Or the previous week for the home game against Tulsa. Think of that whatever you want.Are you saying that many of those fans went to the game because we were playing ECU?
IMO that game was the downfall of Mike Price and UTEP football since. Why we didn't have 8 guys near the end zone on that last play still perplexes me. Most people probably didnt show the next week because they were still vomiting in disgust.Funny thing is that ECU was the last conference game that drew over 40k to the Sun Bowl. That was back in 2007.
IMO that game was the downfall of Mike Price and UTEP football since. Why we didn't have 8 guys near the end zone on that last play still perplexes me. Most people probably didnt show the next week because they were still vomiting in disgust.
Yeah. A good AD would have told MP thank you for everything you’ve done to resurrect this program but we’re moving in a different direction. At that point the list of candidates would have been a lot better than when he was finally let go.IMO that game was the downfall of Mike Price and UTEP football since. Why we didn't have 8 guys near the end zone on that last play still perplexes me. Most people probably didnt show the next week because they were still vomiting in disgust.
So are catheters but do you talk about them at the water cooler?ECU is a well known brand nationally.