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Thanks to Complacent Bob waiting for Mike Price to finally develop a respectable defense, those school's were winning bowl games, and making moves while we were winning four games per season in the latter part of Price's tenure, just my opinion....Its sad that utep use to be in same league as Utah, TCU and Boise St. How did utep fall off so much?
Its sad that utep use to be in same league as Utah, TCU and Boise St. How did utep fall off so much?
Don't look at the new 2017 Phil Steele Football magazine cover(s). You'll pop a vein.
Thanks to Complacent Bob waiting for Mike Price to finally develop a respectable defense, those school's were winning bowl games, and making moves while we were winning four games per season in the latter part of Price's tenure, just my opinion....
I think it's funny some of you guys say how times have changed when we were in the wac and the teams we used to play and how did we get here??
you all make it sound like we belonged in the wac (in basketball we did) but in football ummm we were the laughing stock of the league, we could never compete with those other teams.... so if anything they put us where we belong (and still have not won against these supposedly inferior schools)
Those 3 years in football were the exception not the rule.....utep football has always been a joke
To expand this a little further, there was an 8 year period from 2003 to 2010 when UTEP went a combined 8-6 against Houston & SMU in football and a combined 20-8 against Houston & SMU in basketball. We had a combined winning record in both sports covering an 8 year period and this was not terribly long ago. I think it is safe to say that we were at a much more comparable level to Houston & SMU at that time, than we are today. So the question that was being asked, which is why did we not maintain our standing and why have we fallen so far behind them is a valid one.
So the question that was being asked, which is why did we not maintain our standing and why have we fallen so far behind them is a valid one.
You realize We've been to more bowl games than ncaa tournaments in the last 25 years. Neither program is good.
One word: Expectations.
FanatiCoog compared/contrasted Dr.s Khator and Natalicio as examples. Following Herman's departure, Khator said the next football coach at Houston would be fired for winning 8 games. Hyperbole? Perhaps, but she clearly communicated her expectations and set the expectations bar for Applewhite and everyone else. Natalicio?
Now, goals without plans are only wishes. Until someone comes up with a plan, winning football at UTEP will only be a wish...
ODU best basketball Arena? I have been to plenty of ODU games here in Norfolk, The arena does not compare to the Don Haskins Center! What they do have better is the fan support, always very loud. Love watching them play UTEP, almost seems like a rival game gotta get your tickets early!
So I take it you're not too impressed with their CIT and VegasAll you need to say to ODU and their fans: Win something. Conference crown in major revenue sport. Win a first round NCAA game. Something.
ODU kind of lives in their own little bubble.
All you need to say to ODU and their fans: Win something. Conference crown in major revenue sport. Win a first round NCAA game. Something.
ODU kind of lives in their own little bubble.
In my opinion the major difference is that for the most part UTEP fans are humble and realize our limitations. ODU fans are stuck up and act like god's gift to college athletics.Now that's about funny, banging on ODU? How about substituting "UTEP" for every "ODU" in your post, see how that sounds...
The only reasons we're not in the Mountain West right now are because:
A. We turned down an offer when we were in Conf. usa with mates, Houston, SMU, Rice. So MW went with Reno, UTAH State and San Jose st. Miscalculation from Bob.
It's my understanding that conferences look at TV DMA's, facilities, fan support, brand, geography, history and academics more than recent on-field performances.STRONGLY disagree. Stull's miscalculation was NOT turning down MW, Stull's mistake turning down MW AND not taking UTEP football and basketball to the next level. Had he done so, UTEP MIGHT have been in the conversation, for example, when the AAC reconstituted. SMU did it and was rewarded. Tulsa did it and was rewarded. Houston certainly did it and was rewarded. For almost a decade, Bob Stull has driven UTEP athletics into the ground. Seriously, what does UTEP currently have to offer ANY conference in terms of competitiveness?
Of course that tv market, location and all those other factors played a huge role in the schools selected for the AAC. UCF and UH had on field performance, location, and market so they were a no brainer. Tulsa had good on field performance and a decent top 60 market. SMU had a top five market, rich boosters committed to returning to past glory so they got in after stringing together a couple of seasons with one or two games over .500.It's my understanding that conferences look at TV DMA's, facilities, fan support, brand, geography, history and academics more than recent on-field performances.
None of the fans on this board are humble. You guys are the opposite. You all know what fans I'm talking about. The same ones you all bitch about because all they do is stay seated and stay quite... I can't speak for all ODU fans but the ones I do meet are always happy to see Miner fans at their game.In my opinion the major difference is that for the most part UTEP fans are humble and realize our limitations. ODU fans are stuck up and act like god's gift to college athletics.
I'm with you on Tulane, but in basketball, I seem to remember Memphis making the Final Four in recent years and they're never a pushover in basketball. I think basketball is important to those old Big East schools in the AAC.What exactly did Memphis and Tulane do besides provide geographical proximity and tv markets.
Yes Memphis did have some good basketball teams. Even though that 2008 National Championship run was vacated. Football drives all realignment as in the case of Uconn. Despite winning National Championships they remain in a G5 conference.I'm with you on Tulane, but in basketball, I seem to remember Memphis making the Final Four in recent years and they're never a pushover in basketball. I think basketball is important to those old Big East schools in the AAC.