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Walden's Offense versus Dimel's Offense

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With good reason, Dana Dimel has become the standard for bad offenses here at UTEP. I don't know how many times that I've read this season that Walden's offense is almost as bad as Dimel's. I counter that it may be worse. Below are the numbers comparing Walden's offense so far this year with Dimel's offenses year by year:

Walden. 320.7 ypg. 17 0 ppg
Dimel
2018. 307.7 ypg. 17.7 ppg
2019. 329.2 ypg. 19.6 ppg
2020. 348.1 ypg. 23.0 ppg
2021. 392.2 ypg. 29.8 ppg
2022. 348.8 ypg. 24.4 ppg
2023. 362.2 ypg. 19.9 ppg

To be fair to Scotty he is averaging slightly more yards per game than Dimel did in his first year: however, in the most important function of an offense, scoring, he is slightly behind. And he is behind the rest of Dimel's offenses. In my opinion Dimel had a bigger challenge to overcome his first season. Dana inherited a team that had gone winless, and the transfer portal back then wasn't what it is now, making it much harder for a team to reinvent itself in a single year. Walden took over a squad that wasn't quite as bad, winning three games last year, and the current transfer portal allows you to bring in transfers that don't have to sit for a season. Still, his offense can't manufacture as many ppg as Dimel's initial squad did.

To make things worse, after six painful years of enduring Dimel ball, Senter knew that fans wanted a more dynamic offense. That is what we were promised when Walden was hired. Yet we've been given an offense that's possibly worse than Dimel's. That should have been an easy bar to clear.

Now Walden deserves more time to try to build his team here. But in this early stage I see no signs of improvement over the previous regime.
 
At the end of the day this offense looks very easy to defend. Crowd the box and stop the run, and when they pass you watch the outside. You never have to worry about runs to the outside and passes across the middle.

And when you do pass the ball you’re throwing behind the sticks and expecting your receiver to make guys miss.
 
With good reason, Dana Dimel has become the standard for bad offenses here at UTEP. I don't know how many times that I've read this season that Walden's offense is almost as bad as Dimel's. I counter that it may be worse. Below are the numbers comparing Walden's offense so far this year with Dimel's offenses year by year:

Walden. 320.7 ypg. 17 0 ppg
Dimel
2018. 307.7 ypg. 17.7 ppg
2019. 329.2 ypg. 19.6 ppg
2020. 348.1 ypg. 23.0 ppg
2021. 392.2 ypg. 29.8 ppg
2022. 348.8 ypg. 24.4 ppg
2023. 362.2 ypg. 19.9 ppg

To be fair to Scotty he is averaging slightly more yards per game than Dimel did in his first year: however, in the most important function of an offense, scoring, he is slightly behind. And he is behind the rest of Dimel's offenses. In my opinion Dimel had a bigger challenge to overcome his first season. Dana inherited a team that had gone winless, and the transfer portal back then wasn't what it is now, making it much harder for a team to reinvent itself in a single year. Walden took over a squad that wasn't quite as bad, winning three games last year, and the current transfer portal allows you to bring in transfers that don't have to sit for a season. Still, his offense can't manufacture as many ppg as Dimel's initial squad did.

To make things worse, after six painful years of enduring Dimel ball, Senter knew that fans wanted a more dynamic offense. That is what we were promised when Walden was hired. Yet we've been given an offense that's possibly worse than Dimel's. That should have been an easy bar to clear.

Now Walden deserves more time to try to build his team here. But in this early stage I see no signs of improvement over the previous regime.
I’m surprised we’re even averaging that many yards a game. Like really surprised. I don’t see it
 
Playing devil's advocate....UTEP was Dimel's third stop as an FBS HC and he's been in the coaching business prior to Walden being born. Yet, he produced similar numbers and had about the same game management skills as someone who essentially just started.

Dimel had little to no room to grow as coach. He was what he was. Walden has plenty of room to grow. But, will he?
 
Playing devil's advocate....UTEP was Dimel's third stop as an FBS HC and he's been in the coaching business prior to Walden being born. Yet, he produced similar numbers and had about the same game management skills as someone who essentially just started.

Dimel had little to no room to grow as coach. He was what he was. Walden has plenty of room to grow. But, will he?
Dimel was not a good hire, but also year two was a troops are massacred year. Dimel was playing practice players. But I also remember that was some of the best inspired play during Dimel like playing tough against UAB.
 
Dimel was not a good hire, but also year two was a troops are massacred year. Dimel was playing practice players. But I also remember that was some of the best inspired play during Dimel like playing tough against UAB.
Playing tough means losing 37-10?
 
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Playing tough means losing 37-10?
2018 I believe. 19-0 Defense played tough but offense couldn't score. Sorry, got years wrong.

If defense plays tough (and with backs to the wall) like last night, I give them credit.

And yes, 99-0 with scrubs and new faces giving all they got and what they know or coached up to? Yes, it still counts as playing tough. I've said many times, Dimel brought in good players, but as stated above, he couldn't win much with his conservative offense.
 
The offense looked good, against Middle Tennessee, in the hurry up when they were desperate to score at the end of each half. Can we run that all game?
 
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The offense looked good, against Middle Tennessee, in the hurry up when they were desperate to score at the end of each half. Can we run that all game?
The end of halves is when defenses go prevent and "loosen" up a bit to more of a bend but don't break strategy. Most offenses look better under those circumstances.

So, to answer your question, probably not.
 
The end of halves is when defenses go prevent and "loosen" up a bit to more of a bend but don't break strategy. Most offenses look better under those circumstances.

So, to answer your question, probably not.

Yeah, probably not. But the defense was also having a hard time adjusting to the pace of our offense. They couldn't regroup, huddle and get a call from the sidelines, or catch their breath. Our two minute drill offense is clicking. Can we run it for more than 2 minutes?
 
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Yeah, probably not. But the defense was also having a hard time adjusting to the pace of our offense. They couldn't regroup, huddle and get a call from the sidelines, or catch their breath. Our two minute drill offense is clicking. Can we run it for more than 2 minutes?
Maybe you understood the logic and just disagree, but that was my point. The 2 minute offense was effective because the defense "softened" to keep the ball in front of them. To prevent any big catastrophic plays. It's the philosophy of willingly giving up 8-12 yards per play between the red zones, or between the 30s, then tightening up on a shorter field. It happens all the time. Offenses usually look good those last 2 minutes of a half.
 
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