Was Thinking

[nattybry]

Was thinking last night, if we had Mc Kenzie Moore, how different would this team be. I think we woulda made NCAA both years and Floyd wouldn't be catching so much slack.

This tears line up woulda been:
Isaac Hamilton
Mc Kenzie Moore
Julian Washburn
Vince Hunter
Cedric Lang
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[MistaBinks]

Mac Moore
Isaac PB Hamilton
Chris Sandifer
Vince Hunter
Ced Lang

w/ Omega, Wilms, Hunter, Morris, and Cooper off the bench.

We will never know!

 

[nattybry]

Wow what a Team! My point is I guess, after reflecting, Floyd has had some bad fortune recruiting wise and with Mc Kenzie Moore's screw up, so maybe it's not all his fault. If the cards fell where he planned how good would this team have been the last two years? Pretty Damn Good I Say!

 

[tbleslieDELETE]

Guys, UAB had a very young team this year, with a 3rd year coach, and they got better and better as the season went on. As did UAB , CTF has lost some guys, albeit not to graduation, or a player using up all eligibility. Same difference. You gotta go with who you've got. I can't imagine it is any easier to recruit to UAB than UTEP for bb, yet somehow they got it done. The improvement they demonstrated from early to late season was astounding. They played with chemistry, heart and what appeared to be, for each other. We haven't had a team like that in quite some time at UTEP. The reason that CTF has had some bad luck losing guys only cuts so deep. While it may have been a gash to last year's team, the wound had time to heal for this season. Floyd had time to make the appropriate personnel adjustments.

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[nattybry]

Watched Utep AZ game and unfortunately Utrp regressed instead of progressed as season went on, thats concerning. I think this team lacked a true leader, not just by play, but verbally too. They need a PG and coach on the floor. Honestly think if Vince comes back and they get PG this team will be better next year

 

[STCarlosEP]

Originally posted by nattybry:
Wow what a Team! My point is I guess, after reflecting, Floyd has had some bad fortune recruiting wise and with Mc Kenzie Moore's screw up, so maybe it's not all his fault. If the cards fell where he planned how good would this team have been the last two years? Pretty Damn Good I Say!

Didn't he recruit Moore? Has he had some bad breaks, sure, but when a coach turnsover his roster, what do you expect? All programs lose players and get recruits "stolen" from them. They might have been good, but they weren't. IF IF IF is all you hear from Floyd defenders. Well IF Jabari Parker woudl have signed here, we would have been Top 25 baby! Pair him up with Andrew Wiggins and we would have made the Final Four!

 

[nattybry]

ST Carlos, I honestly think at this point your slow and I don't make fun of people with Special Needs. Your point is ridiculous, how is having a recruit like Jabari Parker who was never on Utep Radar the same as losing they're best player and PG to gambling and top recruit who changed his mind at the last minute. The point is Floyd obviously had different plans for this team and things changed, not an excuse a fact. DAMN DUDE YOUR PLAIN DUMB, IT HURTS TO KNOW YOU SOMEHOW FUNCTION IN LIFE WITH SUCH UNREASONABLE THINKING, OUCH!

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[STCarlosEP]

I guess man. All programs lose recruits and get them taken by bigger schools. At least I know how to use "your" and "they're" properly.

Originally posted by nattybry:
ST Carlos, I honestly think at this point your slow and I don't make fun of people with Special Needs. Your point is ridiculous, how is having a recruit like Jabari Parker who was never on Utep Radar the same as losing they're best player and PG to gambling and top recruit who changed his mind at the last minute. The point is Floyd obviously had different plans for this team and things changed, not an excuse a fact. DAMN DUDE YOUR PLAIN DUMB, IT HURTS TO KNOW YOU SOMEGOW FUNCTION IN LIFE WITH SUCH UNREASONABLE THINKING, OUCH!

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[nattybry]

Dude errors while writing on my phone while do something is understandable, your backwards reasoning is not. I'm all for different opinions bro, but yours don't make any sense! The Wiggins Parker Comment was not even close to being a good example of what happened with Utep and was just sarcastic non sense, just saying provide a viable argument at least, geez!

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[tbleslieDELETE]

Originally posted by nattybry:
Dude errors while writing on my phone while do something is understandable, your backwards reasoning is not. I'm all for different opinions bro, but yours don't make any sense! The Wiggins Parker Comment was not even close to being a good example of what happened with Utep and was just sarcastic non sense, just saying provide a viable argument at least, geez!

This post was edited on 3/20 1:46 PM by nattybry

While the point he was making was quite simple, it obviously flew right by you. Even when I disagree with the guy, logic and reasoning are not lacking in the guy's posts. His posts actually make a lot of sense, depending on the perspective from which you view them.

This post was edited on 3/20 1:51 PM by tbleslie

 

[nattybry]

Leslie, his point was received his argument and example however were completely ridiculous and not applicable to the situation that happened at Utep. When you make a debate to support your point of reason and you use a far fetched example that doesn't accurately support your point or the original subject matter, it becomes pointless and makes the protagonist come off as being someone who is not well prepared or educated. Point was already known as I said it wasn't an excuse, but argument was way off on his part! PERIOD!

 

[tbleslieDELETE]

Originally posted by nattybry:
Leslie, his point was received his argument and example however were completely ridiculous and not applicable to the situation that happened at Utep. When you make a debate to support your point of reason and you use a far fetched example that doesn't accurately support your point or the original subject matter, it becomes pointless and makes the protagonist come off as being someone who is not well prepared or educated. Point was already known as I said it wasn't an excuse, but argument was way off on his part! PERIOD!

Again, if you're focusing on the "who" of the message, you're missing the point. "IF...IF...IF" was the point. If only IH, if only Sandifer had made it here, if only Moore would've remained on the team, things might be different. There is always going to be unforeseen "IFs". Floyd tends to encounter more than most coaches. That also falls on him when it happens with that much regularity. Point being, if we could construct a team from all the ideal "if", we just might be able to make the Final 4, which he mentioned.

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[nattybry]

Ok I see your point, my point was that, Floyd had envisioned a Utep team that hasn't came to Fruition. Yes it is his job to readjust and make due, im simply saying the issues that have happened have put utep back a couple of years. He as Head Coach is responsible, I've never blindly supported him, im very disappointed that this team didn't reach expectations, was just thinking What Ig, cause unfortunately thats all Miner Fans have been given to this point!

 

[STCarlosEP]

Originally posted by tbleslie:

Originally posted by nattybry:
Leslie, his point was received his argument and example however were completely ridiculous and not applicable to the situation that happened at Utep. When you make a debate to support your point of reason and you use a far fetched example that doesn't accurately support your point or the original subject matter, it becomes pointless and makes the protagonist come off as being someone who is not well prepared or educated. Point was already known as I said it wasn't an excuse, but argument was way off on his part! PERIOD!

Again, if you're focusing on the "who" of the message, you're missing the point. "IF...IF...IF" was the point. If only IH, if only Sandifer had made it here, if only Moore would've remained on the team, things might be different. There is always going to be unforeseen "IFs". Floyd tends to encounter more than most coaches. That also falls on him when it happens with that much regularity. Point being, if we could construct a team from all the ideal "if", we just might be able to make the Final 4, which he mentioned.

This post was edited on 3/20 2:11 PM by tbleslie

Thanks for the support, but sometimes people just "don't get it". You show them facts and/or logic that they can't comprehend and they resort to other measures.

 

[tbleslieDELETE]

Originally posted by nattybry:
Ok I see your point, my point was that, Floyd had envisioned a Utep team that hasn't came to Fruition. Yes it is his job to readjust and make due, im simply saying the issues that have happened have put utep back a couple of years. He as Head Coach is responsible, I've never blindly supported him, im very disappointed that this team didn't reach expectations, was just thinking What Ig, cause unfortunately thats all Miner Fans have been given to this point!

I get it man. Trust me, I've played around with the what ifs myself. There is no doubt in my mind if all those guys had made it here, we'd find ourselves in much different circumstances. But nowhere in this practical earthly plane, where results are the bottom line, can anyone get by on "if only...".

 

[nattybry]

You didn't show logic Carlos, cause one person agreed, don't get too excited. Your sarcastic example was not close to being reasonable. Your point may have ment well, but you did not present it well. Anyway I'm done have a nice weekend I'll argue with you next week, same time same place?

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[tbleslieDELETE]

No problem STCarlos. I may not always agree with you, but I haven't come across anyone with whom I completely agree so it's nothing personal, but I notice and appreciate that you often bring examples, factual data and a well thought out way of expressing the info, to the conversation. I don't see you hurling insults, which I myself am guilty of on rare occasion. I definitely respect your point of view and tend to agree with it more than not.

 

[nattybry]

You both should meet for lunch and have a nice irrelevant unreasonable conversation on reverse osmosis as opposed to inverse osmosis lol. All good fun Bros we're all Utep fans with different opinions. Though I still think your example was ridiculously equated to Uteps Situation, I apologize for calling you Slow, but you can still be Special if you want Carlos lol

 

[tbleslieDELETE]

Hahaha. Nice touch and well done. I agree. I called somebody out yesterday, which in all honesty, didn't make my point any more succinct, nor did it bring me the gratification I must have thought it would. It was a result of a combination of passion for UTEP bb and an overreaction to what I assumed was ill intent. At the end of the day, no matter where we stand on any number of topics related to UTEP bb, or fb, we all bleed orange. As is evidenced by the very fact that we show up on this board with regularity...and by our insane attempts to rationalize our points of view with those who we know, see it completely different than we do.

Ok, let the war of words commence, once again.

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