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Biggest question is who plays the ACC in future Sun Bowls.
Article in The Times said Sun Bowl still under contract with PAC 12/Pac 2.
Olivias said ‘I don’t know.’
Either would work.My guess is Big 12 or Big 10.
MWBiggest question is who plays the ACC in future Sun Bowls.
Article in The Times said Sun Bowl still under contract with PAC 12/Pac 2.
Olivias said ‘I don’t know.’
I don’t know if he sucks, but I don’t think he does a “good job”.We will probably get the 12th pick from the AAC and idiot bernie will sing the praises of how lucky we are.
Bernie MAY be a nice guy and all, but he sucks doing this job. He needs to go pronto!
4th pick from the Big 12 would be ok. They would travel here.
This year is a home run.I don’t know if he sucks, but I don’t think he does a “good job”.
The Sun Bowl has contracts and only gets to “choose” from a certain amount of teams. He isn’t negotiating with random schools to get them to come here. There’s limitations on who he can bring, so anyone that says he is doing a good job getting teams, is clueless. He brings in what is contractually available to him.
El Paso and the Sun Bowl aren’t going to be anything other than a regular bowl game with 8-4/7-5/6-6 teams. Maybe they get lucky here and there with a 9-3 team, so anyone expecting the Sun Bowl to be better than that, is also clueless.
Yeah, great matchup.This year is a home run.
Did I say he did?Yeah, great matchup.
Because of infighting within the ACC, Notre Dame ended up being drawn by the Sun Bowl, if I remember correctly. So ND ended up here randomly, not because of Bernie or anything other than luck.
While Oregon St is a solid football team, they are so highly thought of, that they were abandoned by 8 other teams and unwanted by any other power conferences. So what magic did Bernie do to land such a coveted team?
No, but goes back to the point, that he isn’t some great salesman bringing teams here. It’s either by luck or placement by the leagues. He lucked out (literally) this year.Did I say he did?
We will probably get the 12th pick from the AAC and idiot bernie will sing the praises of how lucky we are.
Bernie MAY be a nice guy and all, but he sucks doing this job. He needs to go pronto!
4th pick from the Big 12 would be ok. They would travel here.
He brings in what is contractually available to him.
El Paso and the Sun Bowl aren’t going to be anything other than a regular bowl game with 8-4/7-5/6-6 teams.
Maybe they get lucky here and there with a 9-3 team, so anyone expecting the Sun Bowl to be better than that, is also clueless.
The Sun Bowl is always a great bowl game.
No, but goes back to the point, that he isn’t some great salesman bringing teams here. It’s either by luck or placement by the leagues. He lucked out (literally) this year.
What’s negative about it?Nobody is expecting better than that.
Would you rather watch NMSU vs. Fresno State or Oregon State vs. Notre Dame?
Why are you so negative about everything?
You’re right I don’t. Thanks for schooling me! Back to ignoreYou clearly don't know how bowls work. Do you think the Fiesta Bowl was happy with Oregon and Liberty?
ALL bowls are by luck and placement.
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And who can forget the 2012 Sun Bowl? Nothing says “great” like a team with a losing record
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What’s negative about it?
No, who said I did? Would you rather watch Miami OH vs Appalachian St or Oregon St vs Notre Dame?
You’re right I don’t. Thanks for schooling me! Back to ignore
Ladder is something you use to climb. Latter is the word you were trying to use dumbass.Of course the ladder.
And who can forget the 2012 Sun Bowl? Nothing says “great” like a team with a losing record
Ladder is something you use to climb. Latter is the word you were trying to use dumbass.
Honestly, I think big 12 and mountain west. They are closest and could bring more people. That would help with them staying in hotels and renting cars.Is there a realistic way to increase the payout by the Sun Bowl to attract better teams? That's one of those behind-the-scenes jobs that would determine how well Bernie Olivas is doing. A previous comment was on getting more out of town visitors to come to the game. That's a good idea, but which conference tie ins would fit that bill? Any thoughts?
No they wouldn’t. SJSU, Wyoming, SDSU, UNLV, Nevada, and others don’t even fill their own stadium. They certainly aren’t traveling to El Paso around New Years to watch their team. Only the Lobos would bring fans, even then, most of them would only stay 1 night - if that.Honestly, I think big 12 and mountain west. They are closest and could bring more people. That would help with them staying in hotels and renting cars.
Filling the bowl is cool, but doesn't move the needle at all on financing it.
Disagree re: B12 — I think they’d travel pretty well depending on the matchup of course.No they wouldn’t. SJSU, Wyoming, SDSU, UNLV, Nevada, and others don’t even fill their own stadium. They certainly aren’t traveling to El Paso around New Years to watch their team. Only the Lobos would bring fans, even then, most of them would only stay 1 night - if that.
Bowl games are for affluent, hardcore, or nearby fans. How many UTEP fans went to the Boise and GMAC bowls?
The Big 12 wouldn’t either, aside from the Arizona schools and Texas Tech. The others would be lucky to send 5,000. El Paso isn’t a desirable travel destination - especially for affluent white people.
People from 3rd world Venezuela don’t even want to be here! They want to go to Denver, Chicago, and New York as soon as they can.
Bowl travelers are the same. The Sun Bowl is lucky it’s locally supported.
Houston/Colorado fans will travel to El Paso to play SDSU or Fresno?Disagree re: B12 — I think they’d travel pretty well depending on the matchup of course.
It’s easy and reasonably cheap to get to EP from Houston, D/FW, and Phoenix.Houston/Colorado fans will travel to El Paso to play SDSU or Fresno?
Yeah. Doesn’t mean you’re going to do it to go see San Jose St in El Paso.It’s easy and reasonably cheap to get to EP from Houston, D/FW, and Phoenix.