Well SMU is a “top 25 basketball job” and “national title contender”, so it’s mind boggling the Pac 12 didn’t extend them an invite already!!
Realignment 2022
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It's stupid that you dont understand how things work. Its happened before. It has happened to Utep. UTSA was not D1 and now they have passed Utep. Remember when UNT fans got upset that Sam Houston got D1 status??San Diego State and the Boise States in the Pac 12 or Big 12 will be a threat. Whoever goes to the Pac 12 will be a threat. They now will be getting big money and be able to recruit with the big boys. These schools are not thinking longterm. When TCU got into the Big 12 they were and are a threat to Texas and Texas A&M. These schools leaving a major conference just opens the door for another school to step in .
https://www.allbuffs.com/threads/pac-12-expansion-candidates-academic-criteria.133136/
https://www.deseret.com/2015/8/16/2...ial-type-of-school-to-get-invited-into-pac-12
https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2021
There is more than top 25 ranking. The PAC 12 will more than likely survive but the "type" of conference it wants to be known as will probably stay the same.
This whole realignment is so darn fluid.
https://www.deseret.com/2015/8/16/2...ial-type-of-school-to-get-invited-into-pac-12
https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2021
There is more than top 25 ranking. The PAC 12 will more than likely survive but the "type" of conference it wants to be known as will probably stay the same.
This whole realignment is so darn fluid.
NCAA should put a limit on members to a conference to 16. If not SEC and Big 10 or Big 20 by the time it's all done are literally going to own the monopoly on Power Teams. This is not good for college football and basketball as a whole! How in the hell are there going to be 2 20+ team Mega Powers Conferences!! I hate the SEC even more now, Damn Hitler's of College Football!!! Lol ok maybe too far... Used to be a A&M fan til they moved to SEC and was rooting for Longhorns, but that'll stop too! I'll watch NCAA March Madness and of course UTEP college sports always, but I'm almost done with the rest SMH 😒 I know they don't care about the fans like me. Money and TV Contracts rule, but they're gonna lose millions of the casual fans I believe.
Legit question. If there are two super conferences with say 40 or so total schools and they break off, is it possible that those of us from the remaining 60+ schools will care more about what happens at this new level of college football than the Super D-1? At least we'll be competing on a much more level playing field. I know there are still a ton of questions still to be answered, just a high level whatif.
I mean at this level it’s like what I heard on the Bob and Tom radio show, just make it the NFL junior league and be done with it
The NCAA no longer has any contro over the P5. The P5 can and will do what ever they want.
Yes, one with the ESPN contract, and the other with Fox. It is pretty clear who is driving this change.
Yeap and people thought I was a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist when I suggested ESPN was behind it all.
You're right but it's the P2 driving the ship. Pac 12 and big 12 are done as power conferences. Washington and Oregon maybe Stanford go to the P2. The Big 12 has no schools of value. They've already been picked apart. The ACC still has some valuable brands but its only a matter of time until Miami Clemson North Carolina and Virginia are gone.
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If this happens, my hope is that the rest of us return to geographically aligned conferences where regional rivalries can be reignited. The move to C-USA was the death of UTEP athletics from a fan perspective. At least from this fan's perspective.
Unfortunately don't see it happening. Regionalization is a dirty word in D-1 athletics.
I disagree. While not enough to move the needle for change. I do believe that the fans who represent the smaller Conferences and those not included in the Big 2 will lessen. Speaking especially about College Football. Again it won't change anything, but 2 Big Mega Conference is only money driven it is not Fan Friendly in my opinion.
If they break away which I think they will it start with football. It won't be long until they break away totally from the NCAA. They aren't going to want the NCAA dictating how they run any of their sports.
I hope the MWC is slowly dismembered team by team forcing the remaining schools to beg CUSA for admission.
Pac 12 is going to end up being a mid major of they don't stop the bleeding quickly. If Oregon, Washington, Stanford and the AZ schools leave they will have to poach from the MWC and see if Gonzaga wants to be a Basketball only member. While it'd be a ok Basketball Conference, Football would barely be small notch above the AAC if that.
Rumors are flying about SEC raiding the ACC, etc and if it does happen then the AAC and maybe the eastern Big 12 will get raided. We are a good ways away from this being over. UTEP having a good football season with good attendance couldn't hurt.
Would this be a strong enough Pac 12 to stay in Power 5 or whatever is left of it?
UCLA, USC to Big 10, Oregon, Washington, AZ and AZ St to Big 12. Leaving...
Colorado
Utah
Stanford
Cal
Washington St.
Oregon St.
Adds... Boise St., SMU, San Diego St., Fresno St. Colorado St. and Gonzaga Basketball only
UCLA, USC to Big 10, Oregon, Washington, AZ and AZ St to Big 12. Leaving...
Colorado
Utah
Stanford
Cal
Washington St.
Oregon St.
Adds... Boise St., SMU, San Diego St., Fresno St. Colorado St. and Gonzaga Basketball only
Just ask Kansas how all those bball championships are helping it find a home in the new power 2 conferences. Duke's football program might be worse than Kansas' and its all about the football money.
I am so behind this idea. I hate the wannabe snob schools of the MWC that said UTEP was not good enough for their private club (looking especially at you BYU and Utah). I can't get behind the line of thinking that everything would be better if UTEP was still playing their old WAC rivals. Our ex got plastic surgery, dumped us, and moved on to greener pastures, getting back together will not fix our internal issues (lack of funding, recruiting hardships, leadership, etc.)
At this point if the MWC invite comes; UTEP should take the lifeline out of the sinking CUSA ship, but I would love to see UNM, Air Force, Colorado St., Wyoming, etc. beg UTEP to help them out if the MWC dissolves. if we are going to dream, dream big.
The Big10 picking up the LA market made the Big10 extremely valuable and the Pac12 weak and venerable. None of us know where this is going, but we can assume the Pac12 will be further raided and if it survives won't have much appeal for a television contract.
Rumors that SMU has had interest from and conversations with the ACC, Big 12 and PAC 12 and is feeling confident they will get a P5 invite soon. If that happens they would be about the 8th school UTEP used to conference with that is now P5.
While this is true, SMU is ALSO in Dallas. HUGE market.
Yes, UTEP has definitely dropped the ball for many years. Let's just pray they are working something behind the scenes to get us in a better spot.
Yes, UTEP has definitely dropped the ball for many years. Let's just pray they are working something behind the scenes to get us in a better spot.
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