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At least we won't have to play Southern Miss.

Sadler is one of those retreads who keeps inexplicably getting jobs. The man cant coach and he may be the worst recruiter in the country. USM doesnt care about hoops so i expect him to be there four or five years, but even in this crappy conference i doubt he ever wins 15 games, but hey its "Southern Miss man!"
 
Not that I feel for Sadler after he left UTEP with nothing, but his schtick is JUCO recruiting in the Bible Belt. He was hired with really no time to recruit and all of USM best players gone. He will get USM back in the top half of the league.
 
Other than Stefon Jackson his recruiting was not very good at all. He did go to the NCAA with a loaded team that BCG left him. Doc was good at X and O stuff. Not a very good recruiter at all.
 
Originally posted by Lucaminer:

Other than Stefon Jackson his recruiting was not very good at all. He did go to the NCAA with a loaded team that BCG left him. Doc was good at X and O stuff. Not a very good recruiter at all.
^^^^^ this
 
Originally posted by Lucaminer:

Other than Stefon Jackson his recruiting was not very good at all. He did go to the NCAA with a loaded team that BCG left him. Doc was good at X and O stuff. Not a very good recruiter at all.
Didn't he recruit Omar Thomas as well?
 
Omar Thomas was part of the class that came in with the BCG hire(Fili, Thomas and Jason Williams). Doc did have the Philadelphia connection but was unable to use it to his advantage here or at Nebraska. Look at his first class coming off of two straight NCAA appearances.... Pretty bad.
 
Originally posted by Lucaminer:
Omar Thomas was part of the class that came in with the BCG hire(Fili, Thomas and Jason Williams). Doc did have the Philadelphia connection but was unable to use it to his advantage here or at Nebraska. Look at his first class coming off of two straight NCAA appearances.... Pretty bad.
You forgot to mention his second class was really good.

You can blast Sadler all you want, but he did what Floyd has yet to do in 4 years.
 
I am not making this a Floyd vs Sadler thing. doc's second class? Who were the good players? Look at the team Barbee took over. Very little talent. Doc can coach. He can't recruit.

This post was edited on 3/10 11:05 PM by Lucaminer

This post was edited on 3/10 11:06 PM by Lucaminer
 
Originally posted by Lucaminer:
I am not making this a Floyd vs Sadler thing. doc's second class? Who were the good players? Look at the team Barbee took over. Very little talent. Doc can coach. He can't recruit.

This post was edited on 3/10 11:05 PM by Lucaminer

This post was edited on 3/10 11:06 PM by Lucaminer
I am not sure what you are going to this. Wouldn't you rather have a coach that is better at coaching than recruiting? Doc took UTEP to the Big Dance in his 1st year and went to the NIT in his 2nd year.

Tim took too many chances with recruiting trying to land the "big recruits" and look at where it's gotten us. He has never had a consistent team in his 5 years here. They could lose to one of the worst teams in the country and can keep up with one of the best teams in the country.

So what if you think Doc is a bad recruiter? He got the job done here.





This post was edited on 3/10 11:27 PM by El Paso Chihuahuas
 
Originally posted by utep2step:

Not that I feel for Sadler after he left UTEP with nothing, but his schtick is JUCO recruiting in the Bible Belt. He was hired with really no time to recruit and all of USM best players gone. He will get USM back in the top half of the league.
I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if Southern Miss wins at least 20 games this year and/or the year after.
 
Originally posted by Lucaminer:

Other than Stefon Jackson his recruiting was not very good at all. He did go to the NCAA with a loaded team that BCG left him. Doc was good at X and O stuff. Not a very good recruiter at all.
Do you think Floy'd recruiting has turned out well?
 
Originally posted by El Paso Chihuahuas:


Originally posted by Lucaminer:
I am not making this a Floyd vs Sadler thing. doc's second class? Who were the good players? Look at the team Barbee took over. Very little talent. Doc can coach. He can't recruit.


This post was edited on 3/10 11:05 PM by Lucaminer


This post was edited on 3/10 11:06 PM by Lucaminer
I am not sure what you are going to this. Wouldn't you rather have a coach that is better at coaching than recruiting? Doc took UTEP to the Big Dance in his 1st year and went to the NIT in his 2nd year.

Tim took too many chances with recruiting trying to land the "big recruits" and look at where it's gotten us. He has never had a consistent team in his 5 years here. They could lose to one of the worst teams in the country and can keep up with one of the best teams in the country.

So what if you think Doc is a bad recruiter? He got the job done here.






This post was edited on 3/10 11:27 PM by El Paso Chihuahuas
I am not going anywhere with this. I never intended it to be a comparison between the two coaches. Doc rode BCG's coat tails to the Nebraska job. He made the NCAA with the team BCG built and the NIT with Jason Williams leading the way. He struggled recruiting here as well as at Nebraska. I think Doc does a great job as a bench coach. If you are asking if I would rather have Floyd or Sadler I would choose Floyd everytime. But I have no gripe with Doc. I wish him well. I also am not going to sit here and say Floyd has recruited out of this world. He hasn't.


This post was edited on 3/11 2:51 PM by Lucaminer
 
I agree with you 100% Luca. I would take CTF over Doc every time. That said, I think CTF's tenure here has been disappointing overall. Next year, it could be possible we could take a step backward; especially with the possible losses of Hunter and Moore. In his sixth year, I would expect more from Floyd. The expectation is that Floyd is a solid bench coach and a top recruiter, even in a watered down league.

With respect to Sadler, he may be able to lure prop 48s and juco talent to USM, similar to coaches before him. I think USM is a better match for him than Nebraska could ever be.
 
I think Hunter stays and since when are we not gonna have Lee Moore coming in, did you hear something no one else has?
 
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