No he still was. He’s the reason the program grew stagnant and fans accepted mediocrity. He kept Price and Floyd around when they would have been shown the door at other schools. He also hired Kugler.
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Stull was bad. Senter is worse.
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Kugler gave us Aaron Jones and a bowl appearance
I don't think that's correct. We were the only school to offer Aaron and his brother.
Wow, who can forget the 2000 whatever NM Bowl loss?!? The peak of UTEP success!
Aaron Jones carried UTEP and Kug on his back the entire time he was here. Kug might not have won more than 2 games per year without him.
But he’s stated he came to UTEP because of Coach Kugler and has praised him many times
Ok and? If Jones never played here, we would have missed out on a NM Bowl appearance. Nothing else was accomplished.
It’s not like the Sun Bowl was standing room only when he played here either. A whole “18,000” were at his last home game and “15,000” the game before that.
And? Kug was 18-36. Kug was an awful coach. He offered one local kid that no one else really was interested in that turned out to be a superstar.
And I am sure you would be fine if he was still the football coach cranking out those losing seasons that were getting progressively worse. At least they didn't hold onto him for a couple of years longer as Senter would most likely do.
Where are your expectations? Where have they gone?
No, we would’ve missed out on the greatest player in school history
No slight to him, but as a whole, we didn’t accomplish anything when he played. 1 bowl game - loss of course. No conference titles. No big wins. Same old story. Barely make a bowl. Lose to Power teams. Not contend for a conference title or even division title.
UTEP football didn’t change while he played. Exactly like Price’s last years and Dismel’s tenure.
I understand what you’re saying, but resources begat resources. Wins, good seasons, and competent teams all push our resources up a notch. Making bowl games and NCAA tournaments pour more money into the program and that success pushes donors and local casual fans to go out and support the team. The NMSU sellout wasn’t a fluke nor were the early season sell outs/near sell outs for football - the city wants to support the teams but it’s tough when they’re getting blown out by NMSU or losing to Southern Utah. The volleyball team proved this; win games, be competitive and the fans will support you.
The crux of my argument is winning cures a lot of problems that UTEP has (VB winning+increase in revenue has allowed for Memorial’s renovations) and by settling for mediocrity just because they are a UTEP coach we are dooming ourselves to mediocre conferences and resource pools.
Has anyone checked out the numbers for UTEP's 915 campaign for their main NIL? As I understood it, this is the main nil now and this 915 campaign was marketed initially as their big fan raising campaign. It's pretty pitiful that at this point only 112 people (me included) of their 915 goal have signed up to donate $9.15 a month. This is a big failure on Senter's part. Are they even marketing this still? You would think they would talk about it during broadcasts and games. Maybe sign people up at the games. Just no ideas from this Sports department. Going through the motions. https://caringcent.org/utep/915
