No matter what we write we're going to get the contrarian point of view.
Both of those attendance stats are embarrassing.
Both of those attendance stats are embarrassing.
It hasn’t been pretty but the Miners are 4-1.As I have pointed out before, UTEP is LUCKY to get the crowds they get in football. No other FBS program has gone without Bowl Wins, Conference Titles, and wins over P5 teams as long as UTEP has.
All the media shaming fans are full of shit. They’re getting in the games for free, get primo parking, and are eating free game day spreads in the press box. When was the last time someone like Steve Kaplowitz spent his own money to watch a UTEP game? That is not a slight towards Steve. Just using him an an example.
I would never have wanted UTEP's fanbase compared to FAU's or FIU's or a few others. Just shows how low we've sunk in attendance.FAU had under 15,000 for the 2019 CUSA Championship game - on a 5 game game winning streak with Lane Kiffin as their coach for a 11-3 season.
Which is more “embarrassing”?
Unfortunately, not all 4-1’s are the same. And yes, losing by 4 to Kansas is no reason for celebration. Unless you’re using 5 walk ons and playing the Dream Team. We’re not counting moral victories here though.It hasn’t been pretty but the Miners are 4-1.
I recall you saying on a bb thread something to the effect of “Moral victories are bullshit. The win-loss column is what matters”.
Results wise, we can’t be much better.
Just shows you that other schools have attendance challenges that are A LOT more successful than UTEP.I would never have wanted UTEP's fanbase compared to FAU's or FIU's or a few others. Just shows how low we've sunk in attendance.
I can guarantee you that if UTEP were hosting the CUSA championship, we would definitely draw more than 15,000 fans. We packed the house for the freaking WNIT and the CBI finals. El Paso is full of bandwagon fans and they love watching UTEP play for championships.I would never have wanted UTEP's fanbase compared to FAU's or FIU's or a few others. Just shows how low we've sunk in attendance.
Here's that "IF" again...I can guarantee you that if UTEP were hosting the CUSA championship, we would definitely draw more than 15,000 fans. We packed the house for the freaking WNIT and the CBI finals. El Paso is full of bandwagon fans and they love watching UTEP play for championships.
But those schools have never had a fanbase like UTEP has had in the past. We need to find a way to get butts in seats so, as you said earlier, they may want to come back and actually buy tickets and become regulars one day. We can't keep so many seats unoccupied or we look like an fcs program. May as well play games at EPHS.Just shows you that other schools have attendance challenges that are A LOT more successful than UTEP.
We're comparing against FAU's 15,000 when they hosted the CUSA Championship.Here's that "IF" again...
We need to Actually host a football championship game to compare apples to apples.We're comparing against FAU's 15,000 when they hosted the CUSA Championship.
The "IF" is necessary if we want to compare apples to apples.
I was thinking the same thing.It is embarrassing to have 11k for homecoming when the team is 3-1 going in. JCorona made an interesting observation elsewhere that once Senter arrived, UTEP switched from announcing attendance using tickets distributed (lots of schools do that) to using buttx in seats. So the 2 games that had abouf 15k might have been 20k in Stull's era. 11k might have been 16k. Still, the attendance is way down either way and needs some inovative thinking such as that on this board.
How was attendance when UTEP played for a share of the WAC championship?We need to Actually host a football championship game to compare apples to apples.
That was over 20 years ago. Much has changed since then. How was attendance last time UTEP started 4-1?How was attendance when UTEP played for a share of the WAC championship?
UTEP hosted Rice in the last home game that year and drew over 53k sro crowd and El Paso's population was a good deal less than it is now.How was attendance when UTEP played for a share of the WAC championship?
The crowds decreased the more games we won then eventually dwindled when we began to lose.2010 we averaged 29,400. That's the last time we were 4-1.
30k vs UAPBThe crowds decreased the more games we won then eventually dwindled when we began to lose.
UTEP should get into the Big 12 so they can play good teams. As the 05 season showed we only beat one all year. Things have gone downhill since then.30k vs UAPB
39k vs NMSU
29.7k vs 1-11 Memphis the following week
28.9k vs 4-8 Rice
25k vs 4-8 Tulane after losing to bad UAB team that had 11k at the game
23k vs SMU after a 3 game losing streak including last home game vs Tulane
Beat trash teams and lost versus trash too. Fans want UTEP to beat GOOD teams and DESTROY bad ones. Nobody rewards their kids for getting C grades in school. Why should fans “reward” UTEP for “C grades”?
The Big 12 has bad teams too. Do you think unihorn and the other UT fans get excited to see the yearly football games vs Kansas and TCU? All those teams UTEP played at home that season were bad, except for SMU.UTEP should get into the Big 12 so they can play good teams. As the 05 season showed we only beat one all year. Things have gone downhill since then.
They beat the one good team they played at home.The Big 12 has bad teams too. Do you think unihorn and the other UT fans get excited to see the yearly football games vs Kansas and TCU? All those teams UTEP played at home that season were bad, except for SMU.
They beat the one good team they played at home.
Let's raise the bars to meet the expectations you claim Miner fans have. We need to join the SEC and become Alabama. Then the crowds will reward the team.
How many seasons in our history have we beat the "good" teams and "DESTROYED" the bad ones? Once or twice in the last 50+ years, if that. You make UTEP fans seem like spoiled brats with a rich unmatched football tradition.
If Rogelio is basically homeless poor like UTEP football then all those things are going to be put to use.Not even saying that. Just because you’re a fan of a bad team doesn’t mean all your wins are awesome and you don’t want better.
It’s like being a poor person. I have this rusted out El Camino with no engine; I will give it to Rogelio because he’s poor he will be happy to have it. I have this food I have had in my fridge for a week; I will give it to Rogelio because he’s poor and needs to eat. I have these stretched out chonies with streaks on them; I bet Rogelio could use some “new” chonies.
Just because you’re “poor” doesn’t mean you don’t have standards and will accept anything.
Not even saying that. Just because you’re a fan of a bad team doesn’t mean all your wins are awesome and you don’t want better.
It’s like being a poor person. I have this rusted out El Camino with no engine; I will give it to Rogelio because he’s poor he will be happy to have it. I have this food I have had in my fridge for a week; I will give it to Rogelio because he’s poor and needs to eat. I have these stretched out chonies with streaks on them; I bet Rogelio could use some “new” chonies.
Just because you’re “poor” doesn’t mean you don’t have standards and will accept anything.
If only Dimel would show some aggression..Getting mad ranked-UH vibes when UTSA plays UTEP! Would love UTEP to knock them out of the polls. It would be great for the “rivalry”!
For sure, I’m thinking Traylor would out-coach DD. But it would be a great middle finger to all us DD haters if he could out-coach and pull off the upset.If only Dimel would show some aggression..