Where is JOE GOLDING?

[axingfools1]

Even before the NIL era, it always felt like “we don’t have the money” was the go to excuse for our lack of competitiveness. That narrative hasn’t changed it’s just evolved. Now it’s NIL deals being blamed for why we can’t land top tier talent.

But if that’s truly the issue, then how is a school like Louisiana Tech based in Ruston a small town and a university with lower budget than us still managing to land transfers from P5 programs?

And then there’s Scotty bringing in P5 transfers to a program that forever has been known as a bottom dweller. A program with no real tradition of winning, no flashy facilities, and not much to offer.

So how is he doing it? What’s he selling that Golding isn’t? It’s not like he’s sitting on a massive budget or some NIL war chest. Yet somehow he’s convincing players with experience to buy in and believe in what he’s building.

It makes you wonder is it really just about money, or is it about how you sell your vision, build relationships, and create a culture players want to be part of?

Well if P5 players are going to other schools with less money then its Golding who can't recruit them. Oh wait, we already knew that.

 

[nattybry]

UTEP beating a 6-6 team from the Sun Belt in a bowl game while scrapping by a bunch of 3-9 recent FCS call ups isn’t as impressive as you think it is to bigger football programs.

You’re the one who said 7-6 not me. I am saying if he did really good, I don’t just say an ok year.

So is this how things work in the real world?

Boss: I want to go over your annual review. in Q4, which is our most important sales quarter, you haven't had much success landing new contracts.
Employee: I'm just going to have to do better.
Boss: When I hired you, you said landing big contracts was possible
Employee: I'm going to work as hard as possible to get that done
Boss: Yeah, that's why we pay you, to work hard
Employee: Right
Boss: You basically have landed 50% of the proposals you submit to clients, not great
Employee: Yes, I fired my sales coordinator and jr sales team, it was time for a change
Boss: But you are the sales director
Employee: Right
Boss: I'm going to have to raise prices on all our customers because you didn't hit your quota and we are missing our profit estimates
Employee: sounds good
Boss: I like your energy. And you almost landed that huge contract 2 years ago, you haven't left for our competitor like your predecessor so I applaud you for that
Employee: Um no one else offered me a job, I mean, yes I love it here. And if you need me to let our VP's son work on my team, I can do that.
Boss: Well, I'm going to ask our President to give you a raise, you landed a big contract at a smaller firm 6 years ago, and even though you're pretty average, you earned it. Congrats.
Employee: ok

Spot on Bravo 👏🏼

 

[JCorona]

You’re the one who said 7-6 not me. I am saying if he did really good, I don’t just say an ok year.

Spot on Bravo 👏🏼

Post #212

If UTEP goes 7-6 with a bowl win you really think a P4 school is gonna hire a coach that’s 10-15 overall?

And you went on to say in post #213

Yes Corona, you want me to explain why in simple terms?
It’s not the record that matters, because the 1st year is usually a pass. The fact that Walden will have recruited higher than any other coach at a place believed to most impossible to recruit at. The fact that he’s proven to be a fierce recruiter, motivator and salesman at a difficult place. The fact that in that scenario he’s turned the program around in 2 years and won a bowl game for the 1st time in 50+ years, so yes Corona I do! Whether he stays one more year after that is up to him, because if he repeated it he’d get even better offers. Again all of this is hypothetical and based on him having a good year and winning a bowl game I said.

I agree he could get some attention after Year 2, but it would have to be a truly special season. Something like a 12-2 record, a conference championship, and a bowl win.

 

[nattybry]

Post #212


And you went on to say in post #213


I agree he could get some attention after Year 2, but it would have to be a truly special season. Something like a 12-2 record, a conference championship, and a bowl win.

I responded to you, I did t say 7-6 necessarily, you did. I should’ve made it more clear my bad. However even with a bowl win and 7-6 I think some schools in the PAC and AAC would give him a call. Anyways that’s enough about that, this thread is about Golding and why he didn’t deserve a 3 year extension which we can all agree on!

 

[FiliUTEP]

Who hired Jim Senter? Was it Bob Stull??

 

[KaneFan29]

Who hired Jim Senter? Was it Bob Stull??

Yes, the outgoing AD hired his replacement on his way out. As with many other jobs!!!!

 

[FiliUTEP]

Yes, the outgoing AD hired his replacement on his way out. As with many other jobs!!!!

I thought Stull retiree but helped find his replacement?

 

[PickMyAxe915]

Who hired Jim Senter? Was it Bob Stull??

It was obviously Dana Dimel.

 

[KaneFan29]

Pewter salary going up to $712,000 per year, was $700,000 before. Could get a 4th year added on if he wins the regular season or conference tournament title.

Per KROD

 

[develman]

Pewter salary going up to $712,000 per year, was $700,000 before. Could get a 4th year added on if he wins the regular season or conference tournament title.

Per KROD

I mean that's hardly a raise, but considering he should've been shown the door, that's a W for Joey.

 

[JCorona]

Pewter salary going up to $712,000 per year, was $700,000 before. Could get a 4th year added on if he wins the regular season or conference tournament title.

Per KROD

So there’s a chance we get Golding for another five freaking years without him ever making the NCAAT.

 

[picks up]

Pewter salary going up to $712,000 per year, was $700,000 before. Could get a 4th year added on if he wins the regular season or conference tournament title.

Per KROD

Well considering the circumstances, I'm glad it wasn't anything major. I still can't believe he got an extension.

 

[FiliUTEP]

What took Golding so long to sign it if he was offered it so early? I bet he was trying for other jobs like UNT job.

 

[FiliUTEP]

 

[STexMiner]

Pewter salary going up to $712,000 per year, was $700,000 before. Could get a 4th year added on if he wins the regular season or conference tournament title.

Per KROD

A $1,000 raise per expected win.