JCorona said:

It’s actually 0-4 😅 but point noted

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Yes I was saying I expected to 1-3 at this point, because I didn’t expect to lose to Southern Utah.

utep2step said:

We thought the same when Kugler was hired. At least with Dimel and his offensive style, or whatever you want to call it, we all knew right away there was no way UTEP would compete for a crown. Golding befuddles us in close games with his pendejadas and blows games. Barbee fought when there were 5 seconds on the clock and was adamant on what NOT to do during such circumstances. I want to see Golding clean that up when conference play starts.

I do love your optimism.

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Kugler??! That was the worst hire in the modern era of UTEP football.

Parsons should pass and go to the Commanders for a little less money, but a team that is building the right way, and will have other players around him. He will be greatly paid in Dallas, but will be drowning without the support around him.

Jerry is dumb enough to keep doing this. He needs a young core to start a rebuild as the next 4 years are going to be a waste.

nattybry said:

I personally think It helps a bit that Walden came in and I believe even though the rebuild has started off slow will get it going with his infectious energy. He also gets out there and reaches out to Boosters. I’m sad we lost to Stupid SUU as well, but I expected us to be 1-3 so it’s just a small difference. I didn’t expect more than 3 wins, so we’ll see. Next year I expect Walden to take us Bowling though. This year I expect Golden to have us competing for a CUSA Championship or at least he needs to be competing for one. The Sun Bowl needs a face lift and I hear money is being raised for that. We finally have an NIL. That still needs to get better though. I expect to hear something later this week or early next week about Utep going to MWC!!!

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We thought the same when Kugler was hired. At least with Dimel and his offensive style, or whatever you want to call it, we all knew right away there was no way UTEP would compete for a crown. Golding befuddles us in close games with his pendejadas and blows games. Barbee fought when there were 5 seconds on the clock and was adamant on what NOT to do during such circumstances. I want to see Golding clean that up when conference play starts.

I do love your optimism.

STexMiner said:

The roster is screaming rebuild, but we locked up so much money in 2 players ...and probably have to sign a couple more in the next year.

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We still have to get Parsons signed and he will be demanding to be paid as the top defensive player in the league . It’s going to get ugly these next few years.

I know the pack has a large war chest but the mountain West is fixing to get one hell of a big payday. The mountain west receives the buyout from each team which I believe is in excess of 10 million per team and additionally the pack will have to pay a poaching penalty for each team it takes per its contractual agreement with the mountain West for the schedule arrangement

chuwy9 said:

Not too mention whatever texas program comes up......(UTRGV anyone)

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Just a reminder if I'm not mistaken any new schools from FCS that now announced they are moving up have to pay a $5 million entry fee.

There are local sports guys not sleeping trying to "scoop" the UTEP side of this story. ESPN college sports writers have Kappy's cell number and I'm sure they reach out daily, if not hourly, if he has juicy bites.

It's a story that has been lying dormant then reawakened every time during realignment. Uncle Bob had a leaky ship with personnel or staff leaking info and this site (and Kyyote's Den) was the beneficiary of such info; we got spoiled by it. Them days are over. Love or hate Senter or Wilson, UTEP has put a steel 3 inch plate on stuff getting out. It's not bomb shelter proofed, but it's holding. What Senter does do is variate his story over time, but that's after the fact. Senter is not sleeping and neither is Wilson, but we're just not going to know until the MW and PAC12 say they're done for now or "UTEP is not candidate", which the MW has done in previous years, and with relish at times, just to rub our noses in it.

The only good news is that the MW has not come out with a full throated response about UTEP not being a candidate.

If it wasn't for the pending doom of the ACC, I could see history repeating itself in a way
the MWC 8 and the PAC 8
They end up merging, then splitting up.
Then getting together again.....then splitting up.

JCorona said:

Nope but there will be western fcs schools moving up that will most likely catch up to us.

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Not too mention whatever texas program comes up......(UTRGV anyone)

I personally think It helps a bit that Walden came in and I believe even though the rebuild has started off slow will get it going with his infectious energy. He also gets out there and reaches out to Boosters. I’m sad we lost to Stupid SUU as well, but I expected us to be 1-3 so it’s just a small difference. I didn’t expect more than 3 wins, so we’ll see. Next year I expect Walden to take us Bowling though. This year I expect Golden to have us competing for a CUSA Championship or at least he needs to be competing for one. The Sun Bowl needs a face lift and I hear money is being raised for that. We finally have an NIL. That still needs to get better though. I expect to hear something later this week or early next week about Utep going to MWC!!!

FarWestTexas said:

Has any one woken up Rip Van Senter from his slumber? My guy is going to miss the American Revolution too! Pun intended!

And…why hasn’t any EP sports reporter reached out to ask him!?!?

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What can Senter do? Is he going to call the MWC and say “We’ve got an 0-4 football team and a basketball program that hasn’t made the NCAA Tournament in 14 years! When are you sending the contracts?”

JCorona said:

The MW isn’t done losing teams. Even if they add us. We’ll be at 8. And like you said no one wants to be an 8 team league with one defection away…

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So no reason to fret about being left out of the MWC.

Senter said on Sportstalk not too long ago, about a month ago or so, that he’s aware fans want to go out west. And that he would like to renew those western rivalries. But in order to do so, an invite had to be extended.

I’m sure they are pushing for the PAC or MWC but at the end of the day we are UTEP. We have to wait until UNLV decides and all that before we are extended that invitation.

FiliUTEP said:

It doesn't make sense what the PAC 12 and Mountain West is doing. It's just same teams it doesn't make sense. Why doesn't the Mountain West Schools make stand and kill the PAC 12. Do Wazzu and Oregon State really have that much power??

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A $250 million war chest buys a lot of influence. 💰

FiliUTEP said:

It doesn't make sense what the PAC 12 and Mountain West is doing. It's just same teams it doesn't make sense. Why doesn't the Mountain West Schools make stand and kill the PAC 12. Do Wazzu and Oregon State really have that much power??

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Conference alignment stopped making sense years ago.

FarWestTexas said:

Has any one woken up Rip Van Senter from his slumber? My guy is going to miss the American Revolution too! Pun intended!

And…why hasn’t any EP sports reporter reached out to ask him!?!?

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Maybe Wilson needs to get on the phones too.

It doesn't make sense what the PAC 12 and Mountain West is doing. It's just same teams it doesn't make sense. Why doesn't the Mountain West Schools make stand and kill the PAC 12. Do Wazzu and Oregon State really have that much power??

JCorona said:

And that’s the same situation MW will be in. Leaving the door wide open for western fcs schools to catch up to us.

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No. The MWC has 2 FBS ready schools in waiting. FCS schools still need to the ability to want to move up.

Rot said:

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Agree. Kappy or some other EP sports reporter needs to contact Senter or Wilson to find out what they’re doing to get UTEP into a better conference. UTEP is watching the train go by…

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Senter wouldn’t tip his hat anyway

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FarWestTexas said:

Has any one woken up Rip Van Senter from his slumber? My guy is going to miss the American Revolution too! Pun intended!

And…why hasn’t any EP sports reporter reached out to ask him!?!?

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Agree. Kappy or some other EP sports reporter needs to contact Senter or Wilson to find out what they’re doing to get UTEP into a better conference. UTEP is watching the train go by…

Has any one woken up Rip Van Senter from his slumber? My guy is going to miss the American Revolution too! Pun intended!

And…why hasn’t any EP sports reporter reached out to ask him!?!?