The backlash Plano ISD received has caused an about-face. The game is back on!
High school of El Paso Walmart shooter cancels football game with Eastwood
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Ok I understand you. If I didn't see some of your previous post or try to incorporate that message then I apologize. I would say generalizing that most people of any race, religion, sex or political background are good is fair and accurate.
IMO, it's when we generalize negativity based on race, religion, sex or background that it becomes unfair and inaccurate. This is where we get into trouble.
I also agree you never said white people. You said the "Plano, Plano people, Plano kids, the kid wasn't raised in a vacuum and I have brown and black friends". Which kind of Plano people and kids were you talking about?
BTW the game is back on.
The odd thing is, except for the Eastwood Football program, practically nobody in El Paso even knew we were playing Plano this season. Most of us on this forum browse twitter daily and are pretty tuned in. Until Plano canceled the game, I had no idea they were even playing. Very much a reach and over reaction on Plano’s part.
Just watched the press conference from Plano ISD. The Superintendent sure tried her best to spin control the whole situation, saying it was all about "safety concerns", despite no credible threats ever having been received about the game. She could had just summed it up in three simple words,
"WE F**KED UP!"
And I agree with you MistaBinks. Up until this whole thing became a story, I didn't even know Eastwood was going to play Plano. I don't follow high school football regularly.
"WE F**KED UP!"
And I agree with you MistaBinks. Up until this whole thing became a story, I didn't even know Eastwood was going to play Plano. I don't follow high school football regularly.
So several out of town schools offered to come play in El Paso without hesitation. But Plano didn’t want the El Paso school to go to Plano.
Oh geeze, please don't tell me it was Mater Dei from California?! That would be huuuuuggeee! They are one of the best programs in the West.
I wonder if Eastwood should have taken the offer to have a team come to EP. Leave Plano with egg on their face.
That was my opinion as well. As soon as they canceled, I would have been done with them. That being said, it’s probably pretty hard to find an opponent at this point.
But it did sound like several programs were willing to come to El Paso, so they could have left Plano all alone to look like A-holes. Take a home game vs someone else. That could have been a massive PR move for not only the program but the city as well.
No, because that would have made YISD & Eastwood with egg on their faces. They come out as the winners here. Even Plano HS wanted to play the game. Everyone rallied around them. Plano ISD administration is the one that looks like crap for how they handled it.
I like how you read some kids as all the kids.
I don't think it's that nuanced of a point. 65 million people voted for Trump for legit reasons like taxes, size of federal government, whatever. 1 million did because of all the race baiting. It's a part of the coalition.
I wish the other 65 million would have left Trump and the legit deplorables. That's it. But they seem to get their feelings hurt more when someone says, "Charlottesville is terrible, Trumps response to it is terrible, be on our side for a little while and get these people out and then we'll go back to the other stuff" than they are to everything else.
Okay, so some stories and experiences. My brother runs a construction company in Colorado. They got a job in Kansas during the recession because there was a lack of lucrative work they had to take a lot of rural jobs. The mostly Mexican crew was harrased to the point that the town provided police protection so they could work.
Similarly, a friends dad runs a crew that does road projects. In Arkansas they decided to have a trailer go back and forth with food and supplies between North Texas and Arkansas because the crew was harrased so much.
Again, not everybody, not most, but a little is too much. And it's tolerated (not accepted). People like that should be pariahs, they're not. It's just, "well you know Joe is kind of prick in general". And if people ignore it, say it's not a big deal, not important, then it grows and the idea of what's a reasonable amount of prejudice gets bigger. And it needs to stop because as bad as it is, it can get worse.
And if I could provide a political example. A few days before the first Beto and Cruz debate an off-duty police officer shot a Black guy when he was sitting in his apartment. Beto called for her firing. Cruz jumped at it and said Beto was anti cop. Which he isn't, which I'm not, which 99% of Democrats aren't, and it won Cruz a huge applause. It turns out, she was fired and arrested.
People are so quick to ignore when minorities talk about racism. They say. "Well not me" Okay then, we get it, you're a good guy. 99% of us are. Now let's get Steven Miller out of the White House. Kick Tucker Carlson out of Fox News. And let Trump lose by 30 in 2020. Let's make Conservativism sane again.
**** Trump? No, I don't think that's racist. **** Trump.
Let's be careful here when and make sure that we distinguish between Plano High and Plano ISD. The Plano ISD superintendent is the one who canceled the game, and then reinstated it in an attempt to wipe the egg off of her face. The below, however, is from the article linked to in the original post:
"Booster clubs from both teams had begun working together for a joint message of “unity and healing”
People associated with both high schools had already been working hard to try to make the game a symbol of healing. Too bad the idiot superintendent had to get in the way.
"Booster clubs from both teams had begun working together for a joint message of “unity and healing”
People associated with both high schools had already been working hard to try to make the game a symbol of healing. Too bad the idiot superintendent had to get in the way.
If you want to defend the President then that is perfectly within your rights. Some will obviously object to a phrase like "**** Trump." But to call it racist? Is Donald Trump his own race?
I agree. Rhetoric in this board is over the top. Civility among some is nonexistent
It is as you say, Maniac, but most people will not pay attention to the details. They'll simply assume it was the high school that had canceled the game and would have held the high school in contempt because of it. Resumption will focus everyone back on the healing value of playing the game rather than the contempt over the cancelation.
Looking forward to going to the game. It will be difficult but I am going to make it happen. I hope that Eastwood will be able to send the band, cheerleaders and the trooperettes as well as several fan buses to the game. All ticket sales should be donated to the victims fund.
Wow, I’m late to this party, but you are actually trying to compare Plano to El Paso, seriously?? Now’s not the time to seek white sympathy, bro - whites have got it sooooo bad in ‘Merica. Beyond being called “gringo” and maybe ribbed a bit in El Paso, I’m sure no one has hated on you bc of your race that they wanted to kill you, so shut the **** up!
Sorry you were late to the party. No sympathy needed. Just trying to stop all the hate (from any side).
I think it looks bad on how Plano handled this, but to be honest, I can see why they had their initial reaction. I don't think it was for fear of their players or students, but rather that of people from El Paso. White people from El Paso are in no way the same as white people from other parts of the country, especially areas like east Texas or what we call the south. My grandmother from my Dad's side wouldn't call my mom by her name (Guadalupe), but rather by her middle name pronounced in English (Eloise, Eloisa) not until her later years in life she called her Lupe. I seriously doubt you'll find many white people outside of El Paso singing mariachi songs or yelling at a party pinchi pendejo cabron
Either way you slice it I keep asking myself "What did Plano ISD Super do wrong?". Safety is the upmost concern. I don't see any egg or humiliation. I think she did the wrong thing by allowing it.
Ammosexuals are real, I have some for family. Most are totally harmless and just like the thought of having a powerful weapon in the closet gives this sense of false power. However, to an undeveloped mind of a young twenty something who really believes all this crap and has never been taught how to filter what they read or see on conspiracy sites is now a deadly reality. But hey! 401k's and stock investments are primary and more important than our child's well being. There were cops in the vicinity of the Dayton shooter and he still did a lot of damage. This "A good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun" is total BS because it in itself is a sick cycle carousel.
I realize I'm a minority, but the Plano Super should have stuck her guns (no pun intended).
Ammosexuals are real, I have some for family. Most are totally harmless and just like the thought of having a powerful weapon in the closet gives this sense of false power. However, to an undeveloped mind of a young twenty something who really believes all this crap and has never been taught how to filter what they read or see on conspiracy sites is now a deadly reality. But hey! 401k's and stock investments are primary and more important than our child's well being. There were cops in the vicinity of the Dayton shooter and he still did a lot of damage. This "A good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun" is total BS because it in itself is a sick cycle carousel.
I realize I'm a minority, but the Plano Super should have stuck her guns (no pun intended).
KVIA is partnering with a local Dallas station to air the game.
https://www.kvia.com/sports/kvia-pa...od-football-game-versus-plano-high/1113796518
https://www.kvia.com/sports/kvia-pa...od-football-game-versus-plano-high/1113796518
Eastwood is taking 5 buses to the game, and that does not include the football team. They are also trying to get together a fan bus and it looks like that will make as well. So in total there will be 8 charter buses going to the game.
I’m afraid you’re right. This is not a good Eastwood team. I know this game will generate a lot of press coverage, but this Eastwood team can’t compete with a DFW team. The better matchup against Plano this year would have been either Franklin or Americas.
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The only outcome of interest to me in this game is to have both schools bring our two communities closer. I think both schools were planning tokens of goodwill to give to each other. It should be one more step in the healing process. It outshines any victory to be had on the field which will most certainly go to Plano.
To be fair, the most racist places aren't Klan country. At worst, 5% of Americans are like Klan, Neo Nazi type racists.
More drama involving one of our high school’s playing in Texas.
http://ktxs.com/news/local/abilene-...ensitive-banner-shown-during-cooper-pep-rally
http://ktxs.com/news/local/abilene-...ensitive-banner-shown-during-cooper-pep-rally
