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Jeep, Lee May's, others inducted into UTEP HOF
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What's the context? Just because you and your buddies do drugs that doesn't mean it's a typical thing to do.
There you go again. You’re a liberal. Haha. You Can’t defend your position without having to bring me up. You’re such a loser. You can’t outthink a drug addict.
Nor is it an atypical thing for a college kid to do. It’s pretty much everywhere where college kids hang out and party. I’m sure you just weren’t aware as a college student because it never came looking for you.
Also, Jcorona isn’t a drug addict. It is damn near impossible to be “addicted” to marijuana. There are degrees of dependence, more of a mental/emotional reliance, however dependence doesn’t = addiction. Far from it. Sounds ridiculous when you keep calling him a drug addict.
I’ve known him to not smoke for stretches at a time....without jonesing, without going through any kind of withdrawal or detox process commonly associated with addiction. You shouldn’t be so careless hurling a label like that around. It’s irresponsible.
So what percentage of college kids do Coke? When was the last time you have been to a college party?
I don’t know a percentage, but it’s higher than you would imagine.
It’s been a while since I’ve been to a college party.
I would say 5% or less. I would imagine it's more prevalent with rich kids. Most college kids are broke.
If you go by this study, 36% of college students are offered cocaine by the end of their college career and 13% have used it at least once. That’s even a little higher than the 10% I would have said. That’s just your average for all college students in general. Now put people in a party situation and those percentages increase dramatically.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3075599/
Now look at the date on the second link. Since this whole discussion started in regards to Jeep, I thought I’d link this here too because it is even more relevant to the original discussion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...y-finds/fbdfd75f-efd5-4c6d-8ad5-ff23005ddcf3/
For one thing, I didn’t refute that. I did state nor is it atypical, either, especially in a party scene. Especially during Jeep’s era. 1/10 plus people doing something makes it not uncommon.
I didn't said you did. All I am saying is thanks for looking it up for me. Thanks for proving my point.
Jackson suffered a heart attack because a birth defect resulted in decreased blood flow through an artery leading from the heart, Diaz said.
The above makes no sense whatsoever (the way its worded). Not sure what congenital heart disease this represents or how it would of caused a heart attack. I can tell you I am 100% certain that snorting coke made it worse and likely precipitated his death, guaranteed. And BTW you don't need a congenital heart disease to have a coke related heart attack. Most heart attacks are not deadly though, so whatever congenital disease Jeep had didn't help.
Sorry jcorona, not trying to fight your battles for you. Just seems irresponsible for AB to be flinging that “drug addict” label around as if its factual. Just felt the need to enlighten him a little. Not that it’ll help, but ya know...
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He already said he was afraid of going to the doctor because the next time he goes to the hospital he will die there. He said he feels his body is that of somebody in their 60's. Myself and another poster tried to offer help to him. He already admitted he's an addict. I'm not making anything up.
That would make sense to come to that conclusion, but two things. How did the docs comments not make sense the way it was worded? Second, I’m curious how you can be 100% sure and guarantee that the cocaine in Jeep’s system caused his death. Were local doctors putting that much effort into concealing that “fact”? If it is so cut and dry, why were they still trying to explain it off months after the fact as a condition acquired at birth? Diaz wasn’t the only doc saying that at the time either. Wouldn’t you say that the underlying heart disease is what killed him, triggered by cocaine toxicity. Like if he didn’t have a heart condition, the amount of coke he had in his system wouldn’t have killed him?
Addiction to Marijuana is low (unlike cigarettes), but it can happen. Probably less than 5% of users if I had to guess. Younger kids are more likely to get addicted. Basically you are addicted when it disrupts your every day life and responsibilities.
I'm not saying its safe because there are side effects, but cigarettes and alcohol are way worse IMO right now.
I think marijuana should be legal
I'm not saying its safe because there are side effects, but cigarettes and alcohol are way worse IMO right now.
I think marijuana should be legal
I can't deny the fact that he may of had an underlying congenital heart condition if thats what the autopsy showed. Not sure what it may have been, but wording as a birth defect resulting in decreased blood flow through an artery leading FROM the heart would have nothing to do with a 'heart attack'.
A heart attack is caused by blockage/s of coronary arteries that supply blood flow TO the heart muscle.
A congenital heart diseases that can kill you leads to heart failure, then arrhythmia, then sudden death. If this was happening to Jeep then he would have had symptoms of shortness of breath, swelling, exercise intolerance, etc. Doesn't seem to be the case. He was playing basketball at a high level.
I don't know what kind of congenital condition he had or how much cocaine was in his body. I know cocaine can cause a heart attack. If he had a congenital problem with his coronary arteries then the cocaine killed him 100% because it made it worse and he had a massive heart attack. This can happen with no previous symptoms.
Cigarettes are worse for the user, but you wouldn’t give a shit if your doctor smoked a Marlboro before your surgery. You probably wouldn’t be cool if he were lighting up a joint before your surgery though.
Personal attacks on anyone are the shits.
Marijuana impairs, so that wouldn't be legal now would it?
Just because something is legal it doesn't mean anybody can do it anytime anywhere. There are legal parameters, but you knew that.
Marijuana is not legal in many places, but there’s really nothing from stopping anyone who does it. Just like running a red light. It’s not a big deal, unless you cause an accident or get a ticket. There is nothing to stop a doctor from smoking a joint before he goes to work.
You mean other then probably losing is medical license.
Of course anybody can do what they want, but Its a mute argument. If marijuana were to be legal everywhere, it still wouldn't be legal for a surgeon to smoke marijuana before performing surgery.
I don't see your point. I said that I think cigarettes and alcohol are more dangerous than marijuana. I was talking health wise. I think you knew that too.
Yes, I am just saying that most wouldn’t bat an eye if your doctor said he just smoked a cigarette, but they would if he said joint or had a drink of scotch. So weed, no matter how harmful it is or isn’t still had a stigma attached to it. It’s not going to be legal anytime soon.
If you get caught. Same with a DWI. Same with violating any rule in any profession
I disagree. Too much money to be made in marijuana. Texas is a money state. Legalization is coming.
I would be for it to eliminate drug money and cartels. There’s a lot of backwater, religious based wackos in Texas though. I wouldn’t bet on it.
It's a myth that legalizing marijuana will boost the economy.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikead...tion-economic-salvation-or-hype/#39fd26e10aa0
"A couple of studies released over the past week suggest that maybe we haven’t considered every angle when discussing the benefits of marijuana legalization. One report shows that a steady decline in marijuana prices has put some cannabis firms at risk of bankruptcy, while also crippling the ability for states to generate the kind of tax revenue that they did in the very beginning. Another report finds that for every dollar Colorado earns from legal weed, the state is spending $4.50 to combat public health and safety issues. These two issues alone could sandbag the legal weed movement."
"So, why don’t legal states just raise pot taxes to compensate for the loss? Well, Colorado tried that and it didn’t work. Last year, the state increased marijuana taxes from 10 to 15 percent. But the additional money didn’t account for any gains, it was just absorbed through the additional price drops that occurred over the past 12 months."
I just don't see how Marijuana is illegal if cigarettes and alcohol are legal.
Personally I think cigarettes and Alcohol should have a 100% County tax. Marijuana falls in there too. This would pay for everything.
Personally I think cigarettes and Alcohol should have a 100% County tax. Marijuana falls in there too. This would pay for everything.
Definitely an interesting article. Things I hadn’t really thought about. But if you go down to the very last paragraph, despite some of the unanticipated downfalls and hardships, the author states that it’s clear “the positives seem to outweigh the negatives in a BIG way”.
It just isn’t the be all end all that so many thought it would be.
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It won’t be long for it to be legal everywhere, however Texas will be one of the last. Hell we won’t even let the Tiguas have their casino.
Our legislators are a bunch of hypocrites, I bet half of them go or OK. La. or NM to gamble.
Let’s keep sending our money to other states. Real smart.-
Our legislators are a bunch of hypocrites, I bet half of them go or OK. La. or NM to gamble.
Let’s keep sending our money to other states. Real smart.-
Best Miner game I ever watched, vintage Jeep
That should be required watching. Lol.
Wasn't it the same thing that killed Len Bias?
Also, I know it was mentioned that Coke is expensive. I believe both Jeep and Len Bias did Crack. Crack is cheap, and extremely addictive.
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