Liberty at UTEP Thread
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Crazy that a guy like Taelon Peter was a D2 guy. Excellent player.
Bynum has been absolutely horrible this half
So the bad shooting, poor defense (including on the inbounds plays), and horrible defensive rebounding have nothing to do with it?
Was stoked to see Tim Hardaway’s coaching chops yesterday in the Rising Stars game… laid a dud.
Can we get Kimani? Will Wade?
Can we get Kimani? Will Wade?
Well that sucked. Couldn't afford to give away another one at home - yet we did. We're still in it mathematically, but this effectively ends our shot at a conference regular season crown.
Yup, Liberty made plays, hell they wanted the game more and get 2 road wins. Gut check, fail for UTEP.
This was a physical game and just 2 fouls under 2 and half ? But UTEP lost it by their own design.
Flames have Jax State and MTSU. But SHSU is now playing prom crashing ball so UTEP can't afford to lose one of 6 bye spots.
The refs definitely missed some calls, a couple of those calls or non calls proved to be crucial in that they changed the momentum in favor of Liberty, but still, it is only one contributing factor as to how UTEP let this one get away.
UTEP got an out of bounds call. But eh, didn't help Miners.
Giving up 14 threes is tough to overcome.
Coach Golding really has no feel for rhythms in the game which is hard to understand as long as he’s been coaching his substitutions cost us this game. It’s easy for him to say the 14 - 3’s were the reason we lost we could have overcome them if he had a clue who to play and when.
Also we don’t have a stud on this team that can put the team on their back and finish a game.
Also we don’t have a stud on this team that can put the team on their back and finish a game.
Another winnable game and another loss. We were out coached again. I feel like I say that waaaaaaay too much. Why can't we ever stretch out a lead? We haven't done that at all this year. Golding's seat needs to get hotter with every game. Win the tournament or load up the moving van. The conference tournament is going to be tougher to win than it's been in a decade and my faith is dwindling by each game. We can't even win at home, how are we going to win in the middle of Alabama?
I forgot to include Goldings questionable rotations.
Last point, Terrell is that PG that we have been looking for. We haven't had a PG like him in a while. I hope we can hang on to him.
Last point, Terrell is that PG that we have been looking for. We haven't had a PG like him in a while. I hope we can hang on to him.
We won’t hang on to anyone worth keeping if we don’t win the conference tourney, and that appears to be more difficult to put our confidence in with each dump we take on the court as the season progresses when we should be getting better, not stagnant.
For all our pressure D and steals and deadball turnovers we cause, sometimes that D is to our detriment. We gave away 8 points on inbounds plays, non-contested layups, or dunks. What's the use of all this pressure defense when in critical moments they fall asleep? And of course, our perimeter defense was decimated by simple screens because we put so much pressure on the ball if they slipped us with the screen that gave them wide-open threes. And they hit them.
Also, our offense was frustrating. We had a 9-point lead in the second half they started hitting threes and of course, we had our obligatory scoring drought. We couldn't score for about a 4-minute stretch.
Also, our offense was frustrating. We had a 9-point lead in the second half they started hitting threes and of course, we had our obligatory scoring drought. We couldn't score for about a 4-minute stretch.
Good points. I’ve wondered the same thing. I give Liberty credit for knocking down 3s at the clip they did, but those inbounds plays and uncontested layups the Miners gave away are inexcusable. Mental lapses? Laziness? Both?
There was a time when I thought Jones should have gone in for OF3. Looked like Otis was trying to carry the team on his back and was forcing things too much. He got sloppy. He does this on occasion and you can see it coming. Not sure why Golding doesn’t adjust during these times. I think a 2-3 minute break, and a different look on the court might’ve helped things.
This team can be really good and pretty bad…all in the same half of play.
This team can do both in the same possession.
I've felt that in a few games of conference play. OF3 tries to compensate for the lack of offense from everyone else I think and dribbles too much and gets in trouble or forces perimeter shots, his game is driving to the hoop IMO and he gets caught up in trying to do more.
Having said that, he's the best overall player on the team with David T a distant second.
Fully agree. The Miners will miss him badly when he’s gone.
"TOP 10 OTHERS
19. Dayton (11) – 13,407
26. Memphis (8) – 12,060
61. Grand Canyon (10) – 7,120
65. Gonzaga (9) – 7,002
68. VCU (9) – 6,556
75. Wichita State (10) – 5,972
80. UTEP (10) – 5,428
81. Bradley (10) – 5,419
87. Richmond (8) – 5,082
88. Hawaii (12) – 4,955"
19. Dayton (11) – 13,407
26. Memphis (8) – 12,060
61. Grand Canyon (10) – 7,120
65. Gonzaga (9) – 7,002
68. VCU (9) – 6,556
75. Wichita State (10) – 5,972
80. UTEP (10) – 5,428
81. Bradley (10) – 5,419
87. Richmond (8) – 5,082
88. Hawaii (12) – 4,955"
The problem with that is... good teams don't pull this kind of bs. We're not a good team. Just good enough to be disappointed.
Worse, this is the best roster we've had in the Golding era. We had to BUILD to get here so get ready to start all over again.
I remember being a student during the Gillispie/Sadler years and feeling bad for fans of teams whose only hope was to win their conference every 5 or 6 years... not even being good enough to care about the bubble or make the NIT. Somehow we've fallen lower than that.
UTEP can't play the defense they need to, when the ref's call it soft. They did, and UTEP did not adjust. Liberty will always be in games, because they can get hot from 3. Let's face it, CUSA is tough this year, I just don't see another CUSA tourney championship game in store for them. Jones needed more playing time against Liberty. Golding has never been the answer... Time will tell...
Hopefully no rebuild under Golding. We need a better coach heading to the MWC.
