Miss St just fired their coach
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Re-read my first sentence. Fact remains the same though, Miss St has expectations, UTEP does not. He wasn't even given a 4th year. Its not like he won 5 games per season. All coaches should be given 4 years to show progress, football or basketball. He didn't even get that year.
Definitely voting for this as brilliant post of the year!! Do you really have to start a new thread each time someones coach gets fired?
LMAO, why do you continue to do this to yourself Carlos. You try and make your points with ridiculous examples that are just not the same. Find a coach thst has a winning record 3 post season appearances, not Ncaa obviously, that gets fired, then I think people will take you seriously, just trynna help man, cause your swimming against the tide!
Carlos my boy! Some people get an agenda and they get stuck in a rut; spinning their wheels and in the process dig themselves into deeper, deeper hole where the sky eventually disappears and he can't get out. They try fruitlessly to gain supporters for their silly notion and begin to look just as silly as their silly notion. You are fighting a losing battle. You are stumbling backwards. Move on!
By the way, you never answered my question on a previous post, "What is it that you have that establishes Floyd as being arrogant?". Back it up!
By the way, you never answered my question on a previous post, "What is it that you have that establishes Floyd as being arrogant?". Back it up!
Easy. Tubby Smith at Minnesota. 124 victories in 6 seasons, 3 NCAAs and 2 NITs. Want me to continue?
Murry Bartow was fired by ETSU. He had 3 NCAA berths, an NIT, and 2 CITs in his 12 years there. Only had 2 losing seasons. Went 16-14 this year. I guess even low major programs like ETSU have expectations.
Murry Bartow
Murry Bartow
I just would like to know: Where were all the people when I was saying these similar things months ago? lol
I remember you being here. I am sure you remember.
Floyd underperforming, coaches get fired at different schools for doing more, etc, etc.
Of course I was being flamed for all those posts. It's funny that this board has been pretty good over the past couple of months since the majority of those posters who flamed me left or don't post as much.
This isn't a complaint at all. I'm happy that this board has gotten much better than a few months ago.
This post was edited on 3/21 2:29 PM by El Paso Chihuahuas
EPC,
Underperforming and embarrassing losses will do that. My thing is, he hasn't gotten it done in 5, year 6 does not look promising. Might as well cut your losses now. Especially if Hunter leaves, the team will not be "as good" as this season.
Underperforming and embarrassing losses will do that. My thing is, he hasn't gotten it done in 5, year 6 does not look promising. Might as well cut your losses now. Especially if Hunter leaves, the team will not be "as good" as this season.
It is a fact. UTEP kept a football coach for 7 straight losing seasons before he "retired". Bob Stull even said it himself last week that Tim Floyd won't be evaluated on NCAA berths. Basically saying, he doesn't need to make the tourney to coach here. That is no expectations. Go around the country and see what AD's say when they hire coaches. They mention the tournament all the time.
Yeah, I remember. It's just not as popular of a sentiment as it appeared to be even days ago, Chih. More than a few people have changed their tune of "fire Floyd" after resting on it a few days. Quite a few people obviously reacted to the last two losses, rather than responded to the whole body of work. There are only a few of us on this board, in comparison at least, who are solidly in the camp of it being time to move on from the CTF era. I started to feel that way last year, and gave him this year as my bottom line. It's never been received well on this board, and it probably never will be. Some people don't even appear to have a timeframe in mind. Like Floyd would have forever as far as they are concerned. To each their own. It is what it is, though. TF isn't going anywhere within the next couple of years is my best guess. Being that that is the case, and despite no longer being a Floyd fan, I am a Miner fan until the day I die, and if TF can get us dancing, I'd be very happy about it.
It is a fact that AD Bob Stull said that. It is not a fact that UTEP does not have expectations. Perhaps had UTEPchunks said UTEP does not have NCAA tournament expectations. Even that would be conjecture and not fact.
I don't think you are getting it. Maybe I need to make it simpler for you.
Let's say a boss says to his employee working in sales: "Your pay will not be based on how many items you sell".
Doesn't that seem silly to you? If the boss had faith in his employee, he would not be saying those things.
I don't know what's wrong with me. It was Alfie, indeed. I keep getting all you guys mixed up...Alfie, Carlos, Chih,etc.So,Alfie...how about a response?
I can't answer your question if I didn't say that. I don't know if he's arrogant, just seems that he's stuck in a time warp.
"Even though Floyd won way more games..."
The world may never solve that mystery, if there was only a way to know the answer.
The world may never solve that mystery, if there was only a way to know the answer.
No need to be aggressive and disrupt the message board, Bob. That is not needed here. We Miner fans are just trying to enjoy ourselves and talk UTEP athletics. Your aggression is not welcomed.
AD Stull saying NCAA tournament appearances are not what Coach Floyd's performance is based on still does not mean UTEP does not have any expectations. Saying UTEP does not have expectations is an opinion. Saying AD Stull was on the radio and made a comment is indeed a fact. Two different things.
Sorry to bust your fantasy, but I'm still not Bob.
Aggressive? lol Ok.
Stull does not have any expectation of Floyd- he said it himself- not sure what you aren't getting.
That is a big leap. Saying NCAA tournament appearances are not what Coach Floyd's performance is based on is not the same as saying Stull does not have any expectations.
Thank you for toning down your aggressive behavior, Mitch. We all appreciate it.
Well yeah, why would it change? I think a change is needed. He's proven he can't get UTEP to the NCAAs, win post season games, keep players or win a conference title. There is no reason to believe next season will be better than this one. Better to cut your losses now and start fresh.
Floyd has taken every college team he has coached to the ncaa tournament which is why I am still in his corner this guy knows what he is doing......another reason is you look at a guy like Steve fisher at san Diego state...look at his record
5-23
14-14
21-12
16-14
14-16
11-18
You guys would've had this guy out of a job, calling for his head like crazy, just like with floyd!!! in 10 seasons after that last one he has not won less than 20 games and has done very well....making 6 straight appearances and a few sweet 16 appearance...things like this are what make me preach patience!
5-23
14-14
21-12
16-14
14-16
11-18
You guys would've had this guy out of a job, calling for his head like crazy, just like with floyd!!! in 10 seasons after that last one he has not won less than 20 games and has done very well....making 6 straight appearances and a few sweet 16 appearance...things like this are what make me preach patience!
It's a little misleading how you have the records set up because those were not consecutive. Fischer took over a 4-20 something Aztec team and in just his 3rd year took them to the Dance. He took them again 4 years later. SDSU had an absolutely terrible basketball tradition before he took over. They hadn't had more than 15 wins in a season in like 19 years, and at least half of those seasons they had single digit wins.
Edit: I guess it was consecutive, but he took them to the Dance in his 3rd year still.
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This post was edited on 3/21 5:54 PM by tbleslie
Edit: I guess it was consecutive, but he took them to the Dance in his 3rd year still.
This post was edited on 3/21 5:43 PM by tbleslie
This post was edited on 3/21 5:54 PM by tbleslie
Those records were consecutive! Those were the teams records the first 6-7 years however many I posted.....he took them his 3rd year like you said but was awful the next couple...now look where he has them... He built them the right way which is how I believe floyd is doing it...we both want the same Leslie just think about it differently
I realized that the records were consecutive so I went right back and did an edit, saying that I missed it and that they were consecutive seasons. You're right, and I agree man, we want the same thing. Hope "it" happens soon.
Wow apparently I can't read I went right over that edit at the end...I credit that to it being the weekend and being lazy lol!
