Pac12 not dead?
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I'd rather be in a conference with UNM and whomever, than a conference with Jax st, KSU, Liberty, La-Tech, etc... No UTEP fan cares about those teams. They would about UNM, especially as the rivalry returns.
New Mtn West after UNLV and Air Force depart to AAC…. This is obviously just a prediction
Utah St
Nevada
UNM
SJSU
Wyoming
Hawaii (Change to all sports)
NMSU
Utep
La Tech
Texas St. or Sam Houston St (MWC pursues some Texas ties)
(Maybe NDSU & Montana St if they want to jump up)
Utah St
Nevada
UNM
SJSU
Wyoming
Hawaii (Change to all sports)
NMSU
Utep
La Tech
Texas St. or Sam Houston St (MWC pursues some Texas ties)
(Maybe NDSU & Montana St if they want to jump up)
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Is Southern Utah one of those schools ahead of us?
Some of the schools in the MWC are hell bent they are superior than UTEP, hence why they ditched us in the WAC days. That animosity feel keeps on lingering every time there is rumblings of MWC needing teams. That, and UTEP brings nothing to the table for those poser-stuck-ups to put their egos aside.
The only way this happens is if UTEP is the last option, and there are plenty of FCS schools to call up before us, so not going to happen...again.
I knew of one instance, this is the first time I hear about a 2nd.
Ok, Kap said publicly and went on the record a few times he did his due diligence on the "Bob Stull wanting to leave for MW and Diana N. saying no" and he stated he couldn't find anything to it, nothing! This school has employees and boosters who would sink a Rio Grande Submarine.
If MWC gets raided top to bottom, I do not want UTEP to leave. Do you really want to go to a MWC with NMSU and the Cal State-[put the Cali town FCS name here]? I don't.
If MWC gets raided top to bottom, I do not want UTEP to leave. Do you really want to go to a MWC with NMSU and the Cal State-[put the Cali town FCS name here]? I don't.
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There are no good FCS options for them. When the MWC was formed, UTEP football was awful and the basketball team was on its decline. It’s not that personal man.
If the MWC continues as a conference, which is pretty much a given, UTEP and NMSU will be the first call ups.
So you’d rather stay with NMSU, Sam Houston, and Delaware in CUSA?
The only confirmed talk of UTEP going to the MWC was when CUSA and MWC were going to merge. CUSA had more teams so UTEP was going to slide to the MWC side. The ‘alliance’ fell apart when they learned they would lose a basketball autobid by merging.
Watered down MWC > CUSA by a mile. Who gives AF who is still to leave the MWC, if we don't jump now, we'll be in a conference with Rio Grande Valley, Permian Basin, and Sul Ross in the not too distant future.
Our time to move is NOW. Senter knows this, as does Wilson. Let's hope they make the right call.
Our time to move is NOW. Senter knows this, as does Wilson. Let's hope they make the right call.
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Yes. The east coast media pub has value.
Ask yourself, and leave CUSA and UTEP out of it totally, who do you hear, read, see on social media:
In basketball, Iona or Washington State?
In football, Washington Huskies or Maryland Terps/Rutgers?
Do you read about UNM in Florida fishwrap? You do about UTEP and now NMSU (barfing in my mouth).
Did you stay up to see Fresno vs USC in 2022? That was mid major vs major west coast hyped game. I did but fell asleep. Most of you old timers on here biatched because you were not staying up to see a west coast game.
I agree but I think in the long run either at CUSA or MW we’ll be in a conference with a bunch of former FCS schools. Replace RGV with NAU and so on.
All those schools you just mentioned have nothing to do with MWC or CUSA. What does Iona, Maryland, or Rutgers have to do with this?
Hasn’t UTEP played with Eastern Time Zone schools since 2005? How has that been working for us????
You’re asking me if I watched some random football game from two seasons ago? What does that have to do with anything?
It doesn’t matter. It’s 2024, you follow what you want and don’t what you don’t.
How has being with east coast teams for 20 years benefited UTEP?
It's gotten us to where we are, sadly.
We competed really hard against Southern utah too
It was for BYU, Utah, Colorado St., Air Force and to some degree UNM. Seeing as though UNM is the only remaining one, then maybe....there's a chance for UTEP to the MWC.
They REALLY don't like UTEP in the Mormon state and I would bet Utah St would vote against us joining the MWC.
the best way to look at this revolving situation is to understand why the four schools from MW decided to leave. What about the MW made them think the PAC would be a golden opportunity. Why did the other PAC teams leave the PAC12? Money?
So, why should the Miners leave the CUSA? Money?
If that's the biggest reason to leave your conference, then what would the Miners gain leaving CUSA to join MW? Mo Money?
That my fellow Miners fans is something that only Wilson can answer. I believe it would be a small step to join the MW but a bigger chance /reward to join the PAC. All effort should be to join the PAC.
It would take about 3 years for the Miners to contend for championships, but well worth the effort.
so, it would be a small step with little excitement to join the MW, but a big step-up to join the PAC for El Paso to finally get excited about.
otherwise. just stay the same course.
So, why should the Miners leave the CUSA? Money?
If that's the biggest reason to leave your conference, then what would the Miners gain leaving CUSA to join MW? Mo Money?
That my fellow Miners fans is something that only Wilson can answer. I believe it would be a small step to join the MW but a bigger chance /reward to join the PAC. All effort should be to join the PAC.
It would take about 3 years for the Miners to contend for championships, but well worth the effort.
so, it would be a small step with little excitement to join the MW, but a big step-up to join the PAC for El Paso to finally get excited about.
otherwise. just stay the same course.
Why has BYU scheduled home and home with us in basketball since? Colorado St has scheduled two football series with us. Think they scheduled us in basketball too. Air Force came to the Sun Bowl Tournament a few years ago. UNM has scheduled us several times in both sports.
We’re good enough to schedule in the non-conference, but not to be in the conference with? They dislike El Paso, but will send their teams here anyway?
Yup! Just look at the former Pac 12, looking down their nose at what they consider sub-standard academic institutions. They'll play almost anyone one, but share a conference (aka money) with them, not a chance.
BYU thinks they are the Notre Dame of the west. It doesn't matter if they are or not, they believe it and they act like it.
Some of you all are hilarious. It's like watching a 350 pound woman talk about how all the hot guys are going to ask her out on a date when she loses 50 pounds.
Some of you all are hilarious. It's like watching a 350 pound woman talk about how all the hot guys are going to ask her out on a date when she loses 50 pounds.
“THink bIgGeR pAc 6!”
UCLA and USC left for more money. When it was determined that more money wasn’t coming their way in the Pac 12, Colorado and others left for the Big 12. Then Washington and Oregon left for more money (eventually) too. Cal and Stanford decided to be a part of the only power conference that wanted them - because of money.
Travel doesn’t matter when you have money. Oregon St and Washington St are only in the “Pac 12” because nobody wanted them. If the Big 12 wanted them, they would have left too. They didn’t stay in the Pac 12 because of anything that had to do with morals.
When the MWC was formed, they took UNLV instead of UTEP, Hawaii, and Fresno. If you were starting a conference, you would have taken UTEP over UNLV???
Yeah, but the MWC just lost 4 staple members. So 100% Utep will be mentioned at the very least.
Most, if not all of those schools that refused UTEP in the past have moved on.
Those programs now look at UTEP as an easy win. That's why they schedule us.
That’s partly true. There’s also other teams that are much easier to beat that they could schedule. If they truly felt that UTEP is trash and not worthy of being associated with, the Miners could be easily avoided.
per zay galindo twitter:
Matt Brown reports that UTEP and NMSU are the top MWC expansions targets.
His report also says that both schools have been trying to get into the Mountain West for years, but faced pushback from New Mexico, along with other higher resourced schools.
Matt Brown reports that UTEP and NMSU are the top MWC expansions targets.
His report also says that both schools have been trying to get into the Mountain West for years, but faced pushback from New Mexico, along with other higher resourced schools.
Won’t help with football, but the Zags are an obvious addition for basketball. Personally I’d rather see them join the Big 12.
www.cbssports.com
As a reborn Pac-12 seeks to fill out its roster moving forward, the best candidate is obvious: Go get Gonzaga
There is no school on the table to join the Pac-12 that would bring more positive feedback and a bigger boost than the Bulldogs
www.cbssports.com
Not surprising as UTEP and NMSU are the only FBS teams in the Mountain and Pacific time zones that the MWC could expand with.
It’s surprisingly to hear UNM tried to block us. Maybe/Hopefully that is more directed at NMSU. If I recall correctly, UNM was the only school to fight for us when the MWC was originally created.
To me it’s all about Committing to Athletics!!!! UConn is obviously a tier 1 Basketball School , but currently isn’t much better than Utep in Football!!!! However they have put a package of commitment together to make themselves attractive to a Bogger Conference!!!! It’s Nelson’s either Sntwr or a new ADs job to do the same with Utep. The fan base is already here and that is a feather in the cap. However it’s not backed by wins in the sports that generate dollars. Put a strong package of commitment together kind of like the Locomotive did to the MLS, but ultimately went the route of USL ChampionsDo the same to the Pac12 and obviously they’ll say, No you’re not there yet Utep, but maybe start in the MWC and work towards that in the future!
It doesn’t matter if they did or not. The conference will add someone when it is beneficial to them. Do you think Texas A&M wanted Texas in the SEC? No, but Texas is there now because it benefits the conference. Florida would accept Florida St/Miami into the SEC and South Carolina would accept Clemson there too. If/when that time comes.
UTEP will be invited to the MWC if it’s beneficial to the conference, no matter what UNM or others think about UTEP/El Paso.
