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Scotty Walden new UTEP FB Coach
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You all must be soft if you think this board is "toxic".
Kyyote's Den had one. Broke news on a star offensive player years back under Kugler. He disappeared, 😆.
I wonder what ridiculous things will be said between now and September
Going back as far as I can remember, UTEP has won in years where we had a proven successful quarterback, and NFL or maybe CFL caliber skill talent, all-conference level recievers, RBs, tight ends etc. Through in a good blocking backs and kickers and all-pro level defensive players. How many of those do we have this year? Honestly...
1988 Pat Haggerty - John Harvey - Arnie Atkinson - Reggie Barret - Chris Jacke
2000 Rocky Perez - Brian Natkin - Lee Mays - Ricky Bishop
2004 Jordan Palmer - Howard Jackson - Johnnie Lee Higgins
Lots of NFL players in this bunch.
1988 Pat Haggerty - John Harvey - Arnie Atkinson - Reggie Barret - Chris Jacke
2000 Rocky Perez - Brian Natkin - Lee Mays - Ricky Bishop
2004 Jordan Palmer - Howard Jackson - Johnnie Lee Higgins
Lots of NFL players in this bunch.
I wouldn't expect it. His son is the WeFense coordinator, arguably one of the worst special teams in the country last year. Maybe if they start looking better.
Maybe the reality of what it means to be a fan of the worst program in America was too much for him to take. Thin skinned.
Every one of those teams also had a very good defense. Tony Tolbert, Menson Holloway, Thomas Howard, Q Demps. It helps to have a defense that can get timely stops
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Sort of on this topic, a few days ago I did a google search on the roster of the 2003 football team. The google AI summary basically listed every player that has gone pro as being on that team.
Chris Jacke, Lee Mays, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Tony Tolbert, Jordan Palmer, Aaron Jones, Brian Young, Brian Natkin. Hell I think it even had Seth Joyner.
AI is sometimes stupid, but man, imagine that team. The best that have ever played here all on one team.
To be fair if you say you’re family on any sports board you’re going to catch all kinds of hell if the results go south. I’m sure he’s still here, just not posting.
He's a proud dad. I'm sure all of us would be proud parents if our son was a D1 coach. It's probably best for a proud dad to not go to message board where things can and do get a little crazy. I wish him well. I'm sure he meant well.
100% I can’t fault the dude for having high hopes for the team because he believes in his kid. And I’m sure it’s tough reading our criticisms of the program, because in a way we’re criticizing his kid. I totally get that could be tough for any parent to read. I hope this team can prove him right.
Remember that one tight ends mom that got pretty butthurt when people on here started calling her baby Manos de Piedra?
Technically, 2 out of the 3 posts are still in play. No we didn’t manage to steal one from Nebraska or Tennessee but who doesn’t remember the early days of being a blindly optimistic UTEP fan? That phase where every season felt like maybe this would be the one.
Some have been riding this rollercoaster for over 30 years, enduring disappointment after disappointment and yet somehow still hold onto the hope that one day we’ll pull off the unthinkable. It’s part delusion, part loyalty, but all heart.
I think it’s funny when fans predict victories over P4 teams. UTEP got smashed by Northwestern in 2023 and a lot of people thought that would be the day they finally beat a P4 team.
1st year, 1st time head coach, coming off a loss and 15,000 in attendance was too much for UTEP to handle.
At the time however, we really had FCS talent, and not a good FCS team at that. Anyone predicting a P4 win with those teams was definitely hallucinating.
That said, under Mike Price was the last time we had talent ranked this high by the ranking services and we went toe to toe with Colorado in the bowl game. I am certainly not predicting any P4 victories at this time, but if the recruiting continues at this level, a future win over a bad P4 team might be a viable prediction in a few years.
But at this point I would kill just to break what is the longest bowl win drought in college football, no matter who the opponent is.
That said, under Mike Price was the last time we had talent ranked this high by the ranking services and we went toe to toe with Colorado in the bowl game. I am certainly not predicting any P4 victories at this time, but if the recruiting continues at this level, a future win over a bad P4 team might be a viable prediction in a few years.
But at this point I would kill just to break what is the longest bowl win drought in college football, no matter who the opponent is.
2028 we have PAC 12 teams Utah St and Texas St at home. Would that count as P5 wins?
Didn’t the PAC 12 lose its status as a power conference when the original 10 schools defected?
yup. There is no P5, just P4. So, no, they wouldn't count.
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