UTEP @ Sam Houston State Game Thread

[JCorona]

Congratulations to the Miners! I must admit, the taste of victory is sweeter than the bitterness of defeat. However, I can't help but feel a lingering disappointment in how the Dimel-led rebuild has unfolded. Nevertheless, let's savor this moment and look forward to the potential for even more success 😜.

 

[nattybry]

Realistic View:
The Miners got to 3 wins this year that's all that was accomplished. We're better than a good FCS team and won 2 games on the road against two really bad FBS teams. Dimel had his best team in 6 years, (so he says) and didn't perform like it. Can't blame the season on injuries, because Utep was losing even when healthy. Dimel didn't build after the covid year and get better besides the following year. That year still should've been more as we were 6-1 and lost the last 5 of 6. Last year I really thought was the year, but underachieved at 5-7. This year again was billed as the year and they are looking to be a 3 win team. While last night was an entertaining game against a team with 0 wins, it wasn't impressive. I guess it's ok to let Dimel finish out the year and address his team and have time to relocate his family. However the announcement needs to be made immediately after the season.

 

[pay4dirt]

I agree with immediately after the season for Dimel. But that begs the question of when do we get rid of Senter? Do we let him hire the next football coach? The administration should have started looking hard for a replacement for Dimel two or three weeks ago. The main question here is one of timing what to do, rather than in what we should do.

 

[utep2step]

 

[kickballpro]

Realistic View:
The Miners got to 3 wins this year that's all that was accomplished. We're better than a good FCS team and won 2 games on the road against two really bad FBS teams. Dimel had his best team in 6 years, (so he says) and didn't perform like it. Can't blame the season on injuries, because Utep was losing even when healthy. Dimel didn't build after the covid year and get better besides the following year. That year still should've been more as we were 6-1 and lost the last 5 of 6. Last year I really thought was the year, but underachieved at 5-7. This year again was billed as the year and they are looking to be a 3 win team. While last night was an entertaining game against a team with 0 wins, it wasn't impressive. I guess it's ok to let Dimel finish out the year and address his team and have time to relocate his family. However the announcement needs to be made immediately after the season.

A Little Harsh but true.

I hope they keep winning but I think you're right on what the reality is. They have battled injuries but the more concerning part is the self redshirts like Tyrin Smith. How many chances did Dimel give this Cancer? I only see 1 scenario in which Dimel survives the season, and that's to win out. And Dimel is a great guy and its hard to root against Good People. But its pretty clear that more seasons of Dimel is not going to work out.

 

[shyminer81]

UTEP, a team who doesn't know how to win, went out and barely beat a team... Who really doesn't know how to win. I will be honest, it's nice to have a win. At the end of the day, looking forward to the exciting conclusion of this era. So we can all bitch, on why the hell Senter hired, the next guy lol

 

[JCorona]

Terminating Dimel's contract before it expires will cost us $552,000. Considering the strong friendship between Senter and Dimel, it's unlikely he will be let go before the season concludes. UTEP should take a more decisive approach and hold their coaches to the same standards as any other football team in the nation. Six years with more than double the losses than wins is a clear indicator that it's time for a change. This decision, while tough, could provide Dimel's family with ample time to make necessary moving arrangements.

 

[shyminer81]

Terminating Dimel's contract before it expires will cost us $552,000. Considering the strong friendship between Senter and Dimel, it's unlikely he will be let go before the season concludes. UTEP should take a more decisive approach and hold their coaches to the same standards as any other football team in the nation. Six years with more than double the losses than wins is a clear indicator that it's time for a change. This decision, while tough, could provide Dimel's family with ample time to make necessary moving arrangements.

Good point, while I dont feel too bad for Dimel's family... They are paid handsomely... The "other" football staff members, will feel impact alot harder...

 

[nattybry]

Good point, while I dont feel too bad for Dimel's family... They are paid handsomely... The "other" football staff members, will feel impact alot harder...

Yeah I thought about that last night. A mid season firing hurts them alot more. I'm ok with this being dealt with as soon as the season is over.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

Yeah I thought about that last night. A mid season firing hurts them alot more. I'm ok with this being dealt with as soon as the season is over.

No it doesn’t. The football coaches aren’t McDonalds workers that stop collecting money the second they’re fired. They have contracts and would be paid out for the whole season, assuming they weren’t let go for misconduct.

You can only fire 1 or 2 coaches at max during the season. Typically their responsibilities would be passed on to another current worker, like any other job. Then, nobody is going to be hired or would take an OC job for 3 games. That money is already a sunk cost anyway.

If you get let go a few months early, when you would have been replaced anyway, that is actually BETTER for you and your family. You can start planning your next move earlier, while getting paid.

 

[nattybry]

No it doesn’t. The football coaches aren’t McDonalds workers that stop collecting money the second they’re fired. They have contracts and would be paid out for the whole season, assuming they weren’t let go for misconduct.

You can only fire 1 or 2 coaches at max during the season. Typically their responsibilities would be passed on to another current worker, like any other job. Then, nobody is going to be hired or would take an OC job for 3 games. That money is already a sunk cost anyway.

If you get let go a few months early, when you would have been replaced anyway, that is actually BETTER for you and your family. You can start planning your next move earlier, while getting paid.

Well I didn't know all that, so ok Fire Em All Now!!!!! Lol 🤣

 

[unihorn]

No it doesn’t. The football coaches aren’t McDonalds workers that stop collecting money the second they’re fired. They have contracts and would be paid out for the whole season, assuming they weren’t let go for misconduct.

You can only fire 1 or 2 coaches at max during the season. Typically their responsibilities would be passed on to another current worker, like any other job. Then, nobody is going to be hired or would take an OC job for 3 games. That money is already a sunk cost anyway.

If you get let go a few months early, when you would have been replaced anyway, that is actually BETTER for you and your family. You can start planning your next move earlier, while getting paid.

Dimel’s next move is a fishing boat and somewhere to dock it.

 

[utep2step]

Dimel’s next move is a fishing boat and somewhere to dock it.

He’s not that old. Probably consulting/advising for pro & college which he has done for the NFL (Teicher words, not mine).

 

[312MinerFan]

He’s not that old. Probably consulting/advising for pro & college which he has done for the NFL (Teicher words, not mine).

I bet his "specialty" is clock management!

 

[Firstdowndash]

When does Gavin return? And McNamara is still out with a concussion from the La Tech game?

 

[PickMyAxe915]

When does Gavin return?

Hopefully 20 years down the road when utep honors it's 2021 team.

 

[TxRdKiller]

Hopefully 20 years down the road when utep honors it's 2021 team.

Hardison will still be the starting QB and still looking for Walter Dawn to throw to.

 

[PickMyAxe915]

Hardison will still be the starting QB and still looking for Walter Dawn to throw to.

All I know is it ends in a pick 6.

 

[Firstdowndash]

Cade can’t throw the deep ball.

 

[Sports Opinion]

Forgive my ignorance but why are games been played on Thursdays ?

 

[NeptunianEmp]

Forgive my ignorance but why are games been played on Thursdays ?

CUSA media deal. All CUSA teams had to play midweek in October to get those national TV slots. As a result each university gets $800k for the media deal.

 

[312MinerFan]

Forgive my ignorance but why are games been played on Thursdays ?

CUSA games are being played on Wednesday.

 

[312MinerFan]

Cade can’t throw the deep ball.

I don't care about Cade's deep balls...ahem...just don't run the ball, don't hold the ball too long and throw it away before you lose yeadage. The TD pass Cade threw to Ahkayari #4 was just right RAC option. Glad Miners proved me wrong about beating the Kats.

 

[JCorona]

CUSA games are being played on Wednesday.

And on Tuesdays and Thursdays and Fridays and sometimes on Saturday too.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

CUSA will play Tuesday and Wednesday games in October as long as their current media deal lasts.

Thursday and Friday games are considered normal and even P5 teams play them.

 

[UTEPMiners8106]

Cade can’t throw the deep ball.

He’s not the second coming of Tom Brady, but if he can learn to get the ball out quicker he might have something to build on. That pass he hit to get the Miners in FG range was beautiful. He might not have the arm strength but he’s shown he can use a little touch here and there.

 

[shyminer81]

Cade can’t throw the deep ball.

Hardison can, and that's worked for the Miners so well, the last numbers of years...

 

[nattybry]

Hardison can, and that's worked for the Miners so well, the last numbers of years...

The discussion should be who's our QB next year is it McConnell or MacNamara in the battle of MCvsMAC I think Hurley will be a change of pace and get some time too. That is if they're all still there after what will be alot of changes next year. Pretty sure Hardison is done for the year, one does wonder if Mc Connell played against La Tech from the start do we win that game that was up in the air into the 4th. I like McConnell, but obviously he needs work. I'd like to see him in a different offense next year. The game plan called in the second half against SH may have won UTEP 1 or 2 more games this year and things may have looked a little different. However Dimel's hard headedness is what will have him out of a HC job at the end of the year.

 

[MineroFanatico]

Hopefully a competent HC or competent OC brings with him a competent QB. That would be my first choice.

 

[UTEPMiners8106]

Hopefully a competent HC or competent OC brings with him a competent QB. That would be my first choice.

I agree 100 percent. In this transfer portal world we live in there have to be a lot of mid level QBs that are just sitting around doing nothing, we need a coach who can sell the opportunity to start.

 

[utep2step]

.....I like McConnell, but obviously he needs work. I'd like to see him in a different offense next year....

Palmer was directly recruited by Nord with Nord promising he will be at qb. Palmer struggled under Nord's offense but flourished when Price arrived.

 

[shyminer81]

The discussion should be who's our QB next year is it McConnell or MacNamara in the battle of MCvsMAC I think Hurley will be a change of pace and get some time too. That is if they're all still there after what will be alot of changes next year. Pretty sure Hardison is done for the year, one does wonder if Mc Connell played against La Tech from the start do we win that game that was up in the air into the 4th. I like McConnell, but obviously he needs work. I'd like to see him in a different offense next year. The game plan called in the second half against SH may have won UTEP 1 or 2 more games this year and things may have looked a little different. However Dimel's hard headedness is what will have him out of a HC job at the end of the year.

I'd like to see Mouser or Cade. McNamara, from the limited time we've seen him, he did not look better than Cade. Otherwise, the new head coach needs to go shopping for a QB transfer.

 

[Firstdowndash]

I don’t think we saw enough of McNamara to give up on the kid. We have some games left, throw him into the mix to see if he’s got it. I liked what I saw in the limited action he has seen. He moved the ball well, made sound decisions, and comes with pedigree.

I’m not saying he’s the answer but I don’t know if he is or isn’t with the little he has played.

 

[unihorn]

 

[MineroFanatico]

Wow…from zero to hero,
From Flub to a dub,

All in a week’s time.

 

[unihorn]

Wow…from zero to hero in a week’s time.

I’ll stop my lame Flubiano jokes.

 

[MineroFanatico]

I’ll stop my lame Flubiano jokes.

I’m sure the occasion to pull one out will again present itself. Just a guess.