Utep vs Utah valley
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Just saw the score. WOW. I know we're bad but holy crap, man. A 29 point loss to Utah fvcking Valley? smh...
Correct they were good the year before, but not last year. This year they are much better and we clearly are not and that’s a Problem! 1 game, but I’m close to sounding the Fire Golding Sirens!
Any other AD and I'd think Mrs. Golding might be packing at least a few boxes. Not with Senter though. She's got another two or three years before she would need to think about a move.
Not to worry. VegasMiner liked what he saw, plenty of other fans ready to believe!
The good news for Golding is that Senter thinks the "big" win against Sul Ross cancels out this embarrassing loss. We are 1-1 after all. 😉
New AD and mens BB coach for the MWC please!
AND he won the steals category! You got me?!
Don't forget new dance team. 👍👍👍
Praising effort when the team looks like trash is fine for year 1, maybe even year 2. By year 4, I need results on the scoreboard.
Couldn’t watch the game. Couldn’t even keep up with the score. Just seeing this. WTF? It does remind of the LMU game last year. WT actual F?!
Fanatico, let me provide my detailed analysis as to how we lost this game: we suck.
A 29 pt loss on the road is ridiculous. Golding needs to turn it around before Thanksgiving or he should be gone before March
I thought it was a similar performance to the disaster last year at LMU, probably a bit worse. Really they were never in the game. Bad on offense and defense. Golding's biggest failure is his inability to recruit better players in general, but his failure at the 4/5 position is glaring. I thought Utah Valley's interior bigs were so much more efficient than the Kalu/Hamilton combination on both ends. Defensively, neither Kalu or Hamilton provide any kind of rim protection and are average/poor rebounders. Golding has no other options because he hasn't been able to recruit at those positions.
On top of the lack of an inside game, the guards/forwards were also awful. Horton was a huge disappointment as he missed all his shots (most looked liked good looks btw). It is still early in the season, but this loss was about as bad as it gets. I thought the loss at NMSU last year was a fireable loss just by itself, and this one was close to that.
I was for the Golding hire initially, but if I was Senter, I would leave his a$$ in Utah. Just way too many embarrassing performances, and Golding hasn't shown he is any where near able to recruit at the CUSA level, much less in the MWC. Next year, assuming Senter keeps him around, he will for sure be starting nearly from scratch with several guys graduating. Does anyone think he is realistically able to recruit in one year enough talent to turn things around when he hasn't been able to do that in four years?
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I don’t believe Bronzeing will back next year unless he accomplishes something substantial this season
Senter has to be feeling the heat. No way he's going to continue to bet his career on Golding after we have another .500 performance. Especially with the disaster football season we are experiencing.
Senter is a made man. He lucked out when the Pac 12 decided to expand with MWC teams. UTEP’s “competition” was NMSU and FCS teams. Had the MWC taken Tarleton St or Sac St instead of us, he wouldnt have accomplished anything here.
Now he gets to be the AD that moved us from CUSA to the MWC.
We trust President Wilson in making the right decision and thanking Tio Jim for his services!
Thanks for the memories Jim and Joe!
Thanks for the memories Jim and Joe!
Looking at the rest of the challenge games, CUSA either won them, is winning them or is keeping it close. We lost by 30.
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It's tough to say how the ejections impacted the final score. UTEP was still going to lose by double digits, but it might have been 15 instead of 30. It was just an all-around ugly game in every way possible.
All that Shi… talk about leaving something on the table last year and this is what we do, fa real?!
Great analysis Train, though mine was more succinct!
I agree that if Golding doesn't win this year, it's not going to happen. We saw what happens when Golding had to bring in any almost entirely new team two years ago, and it wasn't pretty. This game confirmed our biggest fears about this veteran team, and if Golding doesn't fix the myriad of issues that this times has soon, this will hopefully be his last season at UTEP. The one silver lining is that he did put things together at the end of last season, winning five in a row before losing the conference championship game. I'm not holding my breath that he can pull off the same magic this year, but, if he does, I hope he starts it soon, rather than wait until the end of the season.
But hey, we led the nation in steals and forced turnovers last season! 🙄
Keep in mind, all CUSA teams were on the road.
Utah Valley 89, UTEP 60
Louisiana Tech 92, UT Arlington 77
Middle Tennessee 79, Abilene Christian 56
Sam Houston 91, Tarleton 62
Grand Canyon 74, WKU 72
Liberty 66, Seattle 64
Cal Baptist 88, Kennesaw 84
Southern Utah 80, FIU 75
NMSU 75, Utah Tech 63
One of these things is not like the others.
I guess the only other disappointment for CUSA was WKU only because they gave away a late lead.
This is an absolute embarrassment. I know this game will ultimately be meaningless because our season starts in March but this was pathetic. We are consistently losing to low majors now. We didn't just lose, we were blown out. This was Utah Valley, not Utah, not Utah St but Utah Valley. We couldn't shoot or play defense. Golding is a defensive coach and we couldn't play defense. We have one of the highest NILs in the conference and the one of the highest paid coaches in the conference. This is year 4. We just beat out Binghamton for a recruit. Binghamton. We are recruiting against Binghamton now. I've never even heard of them. Golding seems like a good guy that cares and I wanted him to succeed but I don't think he can do the job. He will be coaching for his job in March. I was hopeful for the start of the season but that didn't last long. Hopefully this was just an off game and I'm overreacting but the last 4 years of evidence is hard to ignore.
Senter's seat needs to start getting warmer too. So far he has struck out on Dimel, Terry, and Golding (we will know for sure after March). Scotty needs to show some big improvements next year or he will soon be on this list.
Senter's seat needs to start getting warmer too. So far he has struck out on Dimel, Terry, and Golding (we will know for sure after March). Scotty needs to show some big improvements next year or he will soon be on this list.
The miracle run to end the season doesn't hold weight to me. Based on Goldings history at UTEP, that was more a fluke than identity change. And CUSA is just a really bad conference.
Poor shooting, horrid shot selection/shot percentages, defense is poor outside of the steals, goofy passes that turn into easy turnovers and fast breaks. Losing on the road. This is the Golding identity.
Exactly. People forgot about how shitty last years team was just because they won 2 games in the CUSA tournament.
This is how far the program has fallen, win 2 meaningless games and some fans are ready to think the team is good.
Unm doesn't even schedule us in the OOC schedule. They scheduled a meaningless scrimmage. Unm doesn't want utep hurting their SOS (until 2026).
Last night was a lot like Utep’s football loss a couple of years back to N. Texas going into a season with high expectations. I make this correlation, because this team has been hyped with what they’ve brought back. This is only one game, but it’s a gut punch and reality check, because we were never even in the game! We made them look like Gonzaga!!! Golding has to answer some real questions real soon on what the Hell he’s doing here, cause it doesn’t look to be working!!!!
This is completely unacceptable. This is year four for Golding and this was supposed to be the year we were going to win 20+ games and make it to post season play. To lose to a second tier division 1 school by 29 points is ridiculous. Golding has not been able to recruit the players needed to win at this level and his coaching is still suspect. Unless he’s able to turn things around quickly and win a CUSA championship, it’s time to look in a different direction. I’m tired of seeing his bad product.
Although, the football team has been a disappointment too, Walden gets a break for his first year. Unlike Golding, Walden recruited well in his first year and we could have won two to three other games this season. If Walden and company can bring in a second solid recruiting class and make adjustments in the off season, I feel we will be much improved next year.
Although, the football team has been a disappointment too, Walden gets a break for his first year. Unlike Golding, Walden recruited well in his first year and we could have won two to three other games this season. If Walden and company can bring in a second solid recruiting class and make adjustments in the off season, I feel we will be much improved next year.
I'm ok sacrificing next season for a new coach if needed. Senter needs to go. We need an AD that can up our game heading into the MWC and that can get a capable BB coach.
He can't recruit, period. I don't listen to him talk anymore.
Stop complaining! Go to the D2 game on Tuesday with full price tickets and concessions! Joe Bronzeing needs your support now more than ever!
Bronzeing is just not a coach for this level. His level is the Southland or Atlantic Sun.
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