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Internal audit finds $4.5 million in Sun Bowl Account

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Audit finds $4.5 million in Sun Bowl Game account - KVIA

EL PASO, Texas (KVIA) -- A recent audit from the City of El Paso's Internal Audit Department found a balance of more than $4.5 million in a WestStar Bank account established for payments of college football teams participating in the annual Sun Bowl Game. Back in 2001, the city authorized the...
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dementiajoe said:
Sadly we lost a great one today.
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NBA Global Ambassador and Hall of Famer Dikembe Mutombo passes away at 58 | NBA.com

The 8-time All-Star and 4-time Defensive Player of the Year passed away from brain cancer at the age of 58.
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In addition to being one of the best defensive big men ever, he was one of the best human beings to ever play in the NBA. Rest in Peace.
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Pac12 not dead?

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KaneFan29 said:
Depends on which lens you’re looking through. You might be right from a football aspect. The new MWC won’t be that much better than CUSA. Perception wise it will though. Since CUSA is the new FCS move up league. I think SBC football will be superior to both.

Basketball wise, the MWC will be better than anything the SBC or CUSA has. UNLV and UNM are solid name basketball programs.

What does Texas St want to do? They’re the most western member of the SBC, they would probably now be the most eastern member of the MWC.

It’s a no-brainer for UTEP though.
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We've tried being a basketball first school. That ain't working. Football is where the money is.
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Pac12 not dead?

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SisyphusMiner said:
couple comments to a few different posts

c) I'm not sure that MWC as it currently exists represents a huge upgrade over CUSA or SBC.
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Depends on which lens you’re looking through. You might be right from a football aspect. The new MWC won’t be that much better than CUSA. Perception wise it will though. Since CUSA is the new FCS move up league. I think SBC football will be superior to both.

Basketball wise, the MWC will be better than anything the SBC or CUSA has. UNLV and UNM are solid name basketball programs.

What does Texas St want to do? They’re the most western member of the SBC, they would probably now be the most eastern member of the MWC.

It’s a no-brainer for UTEP though.
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Pac12 not dead?

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TxRdKiller said:
I visited the Washington State board (coudn't access the Oregon State board) and there's a thread about the PAC12 rebuild. Only two posts mentioned UTEP. The rest mentioned pretty much everyone else including FCS teams as options for the new PAC12. They have delusions of the PAC12 going back to Memphis and Tulane and UTSA with better offers. Going with Sacramento State or Texas State or USF, etc. The two posts that mentioned UTEP were, well, they shit on UTEP.

Man. We are viewed with incredible disdain. I'm not blind. I know how far we've fallen. But to read the words of others on the Washington State board cut like a hot knife through butter.

I won't sleep well tonight. This really fvcking hurts, man. How could the UTEP leadership have allowed our athletics programs to fall so far as to be viewed with so much disdain. I can't use the word "hate." Their fans likely don't have any reason to "hate" UTEP. But fvck me, man. They have absolutely zero respect for anything UTEP could bring to their uppity conference.

I'm not sure anymore whether I'd like to see UTEP in the PAC12 or just laugh at them for thinking they're so fvcking awesome when they just got dumped by 10 of their 12 schools.

I have so much going through my mind right now and somehow don't know what else there can be to say...
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I definitely think an element of racism and propaganda about the border situation plays a role in it. Whenever I mention people that I am from El Paso they like to tell me that it's a scary place and imagine it to be some big war zone
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couple comments to a few different posts

a) We all know El Paso is a nice city. The problem is the rest of the country doesn't think it is. Perception is everything. Saying it's nice doesn't change anyone's mind. The city needs to realize this and start working on their PR for their own good, let alone UTEP.

b) In addition to the poor perception, El Paso is 12 hours away from any recruiting hotbed. Or from any major media.

c) I'm not sure that MWC as it currently exists represents a huge upgrade over CUSA or SBC. Tx St would make them more attractive to us due to b). I don't know what they have to offer TX St. I'm not convinced the money they currently have will be there for long. New media and bowl deals will have to get negotiated soon. PAC is absolutely an upgrade due to both better teams and access to the recruiting and media issues
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New MWC Possibility:

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KaneFan29 said:
Again, you don’t get it. El Paso is perceived as a city filled with Mexicans who don’t speak English and where illegals come to enter the US. Add that in with very little D1 recruits for the city of it’s size and that’s why schools like Texas St and Rice are more desirable than UTEP.

UTEP has the best location? Yeah, okay. Your paint huffing has to stop.
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Poor, brown, next to Juarez.
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FiliUTEP said:
You always talk about things to do and how El Paso is boring. You know when I use to live in El Paso, I remember people from Albuquerque driving down to El Paso because there was more to do in El Paso. If America ever builds those speed trains El Paso will be the perfect location. El Paso will be in the middle of everything . Location isn't a problem or Utep. Utep has the best location.
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Again, you don’t get it. El Paso is perceived as a city filled with Mexicans who don’t speak English and where illegals come to enter the US. Add that in with very little D1 recruits for the city of it’s size and that’s why schools like Texas St and Rice are more desirable than UTEP.

UTEP has the best location? Yeah, okay. Your paint huffing has to stop.
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picks up said:
UTEP has something has a few advantages that UNM doesn't at this very moment: a super cheap buyout and the availability to make the move. UNM just signed that agreement to stay in MWC. Pac 12 is currently getting to desperation mode for the 8th member which is the reason we have a small chance. I've already said the chances of this happening are slim but this is as high of a chance as we will ever have.
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I am talking about before they signed the agreement. On 9/12, the Pac announced the first of the MWC teams, if they wanted UNM they could have told them to wait and see what happens with their other targets, later that day. They also could have offered UNM the same time they were talking with Utah State.

UNM was never mentioned by anyone that they were being considered. If you were a UNM fan, wouldn’t you rather be with the Pac teams? There’s probably only a few delusional people that actually believe the MWC is better than the Pac 12.

The Pac had multiple opportunities to get UNM if they wanted to.
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FiliUTEP
KaneFan29 said:
This is stupidity right here. El Paso is not desirable because of the city itself, not its physical location.

What good does being a 6 hour drive from Phoenix and Tucson do if there’s no teams there? You think the MWC or PAC teams would bus teams from El Paso to Houston or Dallas??? Are you that stupid?
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You always talk about things to do and how El Paso is boring. You know when I use to live in El Paso, I remember people from Albuquerque driving down to El Paso because there was more to do in El Paso. If America ever builds those speed trains El Paso will be the perfect location. El Paso will be in the middle of everything . Location isn't a problem or Utep. Utep has the best location.
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KaneFan29 said:
Guys, don’t fall for the fools gold.

If the Pac 12 didn’t want UNM, they sure as shit do not want UTEP.
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UTEP has something has a few advantages that UNM doesn't at this very moment: a super cheap buyout and the availability to make the move. UNM just signed that agreement to stay in MWC. Pac 12 is currently getting to desperation mode for the 8th member which is the reason we have a small chance. I've already said the chances of this happening are slim but this is as high of a chance as we will ever have.
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