Oh Geeze!!! Ok I give up on being positive UTEP and CUSA are officially FUBAR!!!
Worst part is, still stretches from El Paso to Miami to Norfolk.The writing was on the wall. Every school is looking out for themselves at this point.
With Marshall gone maybe UTEP and LT have enough influence to invite NMSU. SHSU and or ACU should also be on the short list if they're ready.
Yes it was always going to maybe even further if UMASS was added. At least with those two or three programs we'll have a few schools less than 1000 miles away.Worst part is, still stretches from El Paso to Miami to Norfolk.
I said the Sun Belt wouldn't come to CUSA not the other way around.
Youre right. Aren't you the one with the hookup to these stories?I said the Sun Belt wouldn't come to CUSA not the other way around.
I did see the rumor but I didn't want to believe it. Sun Belt has come along way and it looks a lot better. Marshall is a great add and Southern Miss is okay but fit geographically.Youre right. Aren't you the one with the hookup to these stories?
If Marshall's administration has the same feelings as their fans, NMSU is a non-starter. The fans are adamantly opposed to any more western teams and they'd rather blow up CUSA than go down that path. The best option is likely that we're the crazy outlier in an eastern CUSA.The only hope Utep has right now is cusa to add NMSU and Liberty. Definitely not ideal but that looks like the best option right now. Yikes!
Sorry if I have you confused with someone else. I thought you were a subscriber to the Athletic. If you are could you tell us what teams are mentioned as possible candidates. I would imagine it's USM, Marshall, ODU and JMU....I did see the rumor but I didn't want to believe it. Sun Belt has come along way and it looks a lot better. Marshall is a great add and Southern Miss is okay but fit geographically.
Sorry if I have you confused with someone else. I thought you were a subscriber to the Athletic. If you are could you tell us what teams are mentioned as possible candidates. I would imagine it's USM, Marshall, ODU and JMU....
Wonder if WKU and Middle Tennessee is going to the MAC or Sun Belt?
MTSU is possible to the MAC only. WKU could go either wayWonder if WKU and Middle Tennessee is going to the MAC or Sun Belt?
Thank you!From The Athletic
What’s left of Conference USA?
While those in Conference USA knew they could lose other members to the AAC, to see six take steps toward leaving at once was a gut punch. In particular, North Texas president Neal Smatresk, who signed the letter sent to the AAC about a conversation on geographic restructuring last week, is the chair of the C-USA board of directors.
The conference was a bit bloated at 14 members already, but the remaining eight still face geographic problems, especially UTEP, Louisiana Tech and Southern Miss.
Conference USA hopes to get back to 10 teams and has had conversations with potential additions like James Madison and Liberty, but that could depend on what happens elsewhere. If the Sun Belt targets Conference USA teams, it would put C-USA in a tenuous position, and schools like JMU and Liberty don’t want to sign up for C-USA without know what’ll be left. C-USA has passed on Liberty in the past for those political and financial reasons mentioned above, but would the league now be more willing to take the Flames?
Could anything else happen elsewhere?
There have been whispers the MAC is looking at options. It always makes sense to observe the landscape, and if Conference USA blows up, perhaps the MAC could add some of the leftovers. The MAC has had eastern members like UCF, Marshall, Temple and UMass in the past, but it is now geographically tight with similarly minded schools and budgets.
The chain reaction started by Texas and Oklahoma is ongoing, and the mood among most administrators is frustration that it reached this point, with Group of 5 conferences raiding each other again. But schools have to look out for themselves and make the best move possible. In wake of the AAC’s planned additions, reaction should come quickly.
Not like we haven’t been independent before *says sarcastically since last time was when Border Conference folded*Everything is pointing to Independent and WAC or whatever FCS conference will take our Olympic sports.
The MAC is a pretty tight midwestern conference. They may be perfectly happy at 12.MTSU is possible to the MAC only. WKU could go either way
The MAC is a pretty tight midwestern conference. They may be perfectly happy at 12.
Hopefully if the SBC expands they only go to 12. That would leave 6 schools in CUSA,
UTEP, ODU, WKU, MT, FIU, LT
Since going indy means a much smaller share of cfp money and finding a home for non football sports, I would think they could find 2 schools anxious to be in an fbs conference. So survival is the name of the game for CUSA and it's immediate future.
JMU and Liberty might still be interested and maybe NMSU. Its not a matter anymore who we want but who we can get. Any school joining would want in writing a specific time frame that current CUSA schools would guarantee they would remain.
So Thamel is saying both the SBC and CUSA are talking to James Madison. Gee, I wonder which one they will pick??
Said it earlier, fat girl got hot and is getting their revenge.The funny thing is that aside from FIU. LT, WKU, and MTSU were the strongest teams CUSA added. Every other team that CUSA was shitted on for adding is moving to a better place.
I don’t see why they would need anyone’s thoughts on how or why. You’re right, no one nearby could be added and if there was, why the **** would they join? If you’re the AD at Texas St, you wouldn’t leave the SBC for some temporary cash the CUSA leftovers might get.Marshall fans are super funny. They're trying to blame their move to the SB cuz UTEP is pushing for schools around us instead of eastern schools. As if there are any schools around us or we have the backing of anyone else left in the conference. If that's true I never knew how influential we are.
I’m still holding out hope we can go to the MWC. That would be the best of all worldsAs of right now, the glass is half full. My gawd, some very, very competitive good programs are still in CUSA. I say keep it together and add Liberty and "f" the rest of them. My gawd, this really doesn't look that bad other than the travel costs.
CUSA just needs to tell, more like slap, ODU and Marshall to get off their high horse. No body wants you guys. Go ahead and let them pick their travel partner and strengthen the brand. UAB is the biggest loss and it's nothing like losing Memphis a few years back (that was big blow). Replace UAB with NMSU for basketball for pete's sake if you need to strengthen scheduling.
I would. My optimism was higher this morning but UTEP is outside in the cold snow looking in. Welp, here’s hoping for the best.Wonder if WKU and Middle Tennessee is going to the MAC or Sun Belt?
It would be great. I think the Big two want nothing to do with UTEP. The bigger problem is there is no way three presidents from Cal State institutions are voting to admit a school whose president worked in the Trump administration. There are other barriers but to me that's the one that can't be rectified.I’m still holding out hope we can go to the MWC. That would be the best of all worlds
Have they actually said that or is that something just believe to be the case?It would be great. I think the Big two want nothing to do with UTEP. The bigger problem is there is no way three presidents from Cal State institutions are voting to admit a school whose president worked in the Trump administration. There are other barriers but to me that's the one that can't be rectified.
Educated guess based on how the Cal State system operates and level of activism the regents display. I don't think Wilson's past employment would be an issue in any other conference. I don't think it's an issue outside those three schools. What I know about the Cal State system I dont think there is any way those three presidents vote for us as long as Wilson is the president. Like I said there are many other objections you would have to get past to get to a vote. I just think by miracle if it got to a vote there is no way those three will vote yes while Wilson is president.Have they actually said that or is that something just believe to be the case?
Well if that’s true it’s a real shame.Educated guess based on how the Cal State system operates and level of activism the regents display. I don't think Wilson's past employment would be an issue in any other conference. I don't think it's an issue outside those three schools. What I know about the Cal State system I dont think there is any way those three presidents vote for us as long as Wilson is the president. Like I said there are many other objections you would have to get past to get to a vote. I just think by miracle if it got to a vote there is no way those three will vote yes while Wilson is president.
Nope. She was not a Trumpist and career military but Trump stayed respectful of her departure, publicly at least. He made her retirement decision that much easier and the UTEP job was new path she wanted.It would be great. I think the Big two want nothing to do with UTEP. The bigger problem is there is no way three presidents from Cal State institutions are voting to admit a school whose president worked in the Trump administration. There are other barriers but to me that's the one that can't be rectified.