New MWC Possibility:
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It’s not that far-fetched because of the money the MWC will receive. It’s just a matter if those schools want to compete for a national title and win 8 games every year or fight for 6-6 and crappy bowls.
Both very valid points. However, Wilson has aerospace and other R&D pull since she was Air Force top brass. Don't get me wrong, that is a major big deal and I'm glad she is here but I guess we will see? Now in the old PAC10/12 days, you had to be Tier 1, major research (which UTEP has achieved and getting better), at the very least to be a candidate.
UTEP's athletic budget is significantly below even the least funded schools left in the MWC. So, yes, a move would take a major refocused commitment by UTEP, etc.
If true, Senter better be burning up the MWC phone line like a stalker. That might end up being the death knell for CUSA, whether the AAC backfills with CUSA or backfills with the Sun Belt, who backfills with CUSA.
She was top Air Force brass. Attracting aerospace R&D to UTEP and other research entities. She has been a boon for UTEP as far as that is concerned. With that comes knowing and being a respected academic with public and private sectors and you're kidding yourself if that doesn't trickle down to athletics. Only problem is UTEP football is well, UTEP football and FBS is a cartel.
UTSA, Appalachian St, and Liberty haven’t had issues navigating this “cartel”. UTEP had a 60 year head start on them too.
First and foremost, she has to care about athletics. I have yet to see anything she's done move the athletic programs forward.
Makes sense Pac 12 can't lose the Sun Bowl so if they invite Utep they won't lose the game.
It annoys me to no end to see UTSA get mentioned.......other than a couple winning seasons in FB, their attractiveness is based on them being in San Antonio. No on campus stadium, my old high school has a better BBall gym than them, etc.
Yeah, I'm being a hater, but f*** those guys.
Yeah, I'm being a hater, but f*** those guys.
I think Texas State will have more success than UTSA. They have the fan support. Texas Tech and TCU should be worried of Texas State.
Whatever happens, I hope UTEP does NOT agree to an 18 million dollar exit fee if they join the MWC. Especially if UTEP has to join under the condition that it receives a smaller share of revenue.
That’s not at all considered and I don’t know why you or anyone think it is. Also has 0 to do with Utep, Please Stop smh…
It would likely be much less than $18M based on the makeup of the new league, and the new tv deal. It is ironic that Nevarez fought for that high amount to avoid poaching, and in the end, it happened any way.
Also, if UTEP did make the move to MWC, because of the CUSA Grant of Rights agreement signed in 2023, I believe the exit fee would be around $3.2M. Of course, that amount would probably be negotiating on, but that is a significant amount for a school like UTEP.
It's mostly FCS people that are making these claims. There are other MWC fans saying that but I agree that it makes no sense.
Natty, you haven't been paying attention. This is Fili's cry every time realignment happens.
I would think those poaching fees were in there for this case. If “she” doesn’t put in the poaching fees, they still get poached, but without the financial windfall.
Boise and the others want to ditch the MWC bottom feeders and would leave anyway.
For sure. Solid move by Nevarez in retrospect for the MWC. Very nice windfall for the conference. Also, I'm thinking I have the exit fees amounts backwards as well. I think they increase with a shorter notice to the conference. So in theory, UTEP's CUSA exit fees would be around $800k, since they would be providing a 4 year notice of leaving. Still getting way ahead of ourselves of course.
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The Sun Bowl I believe will leave the Pac12 for a better conference. A MountainWest/PAC 12 is not good enough and it's pretty much crappy teams . They will probably try for the Big 12 or Big 10?? Better teams .
PAC 12 inviting Utep might help and convince the Sun Bowl committee not to leave. Do you think the Rose Bowl will still have PAC 12 vs Big Ten?? No way. No matter what people think about the Sun Bowl game. The PAC 12 can't lose it, the same with the Alamo Bowl. The PAC 12 needs to save has many bowl games as they can. If all it's need to do to invite Utep do it doesn't lose the Sun Bowl, they will do it.
Do you guys understand now??
In an era when we have a 12 team playoff, every winning team goes to a bowl, and players opt out of bowl games.........do you really think the Bowls have any say in Conference Realignment?
We are getting to a point in which, The Bowls need the teams more than the teams need the Bowls.
Is there any hard evidence that the PAC 12 uttered the acronym "UTEP" in any official capacity?
Outside social media sources (it was days ago) but not a respected sports channel source.
Well until Bowls are no more, I think Bowl games are still important. Norte Dame still came to the Sun Bowl last year. Even though the good players skipped it, the good thing about college football is the Schools are more popular than the players.
Not to Deaver. Christ Almighty the guy was going bro love crazy on his twitter/X when Sam Hartman walked on to the field.
I mean, honestly, what do you think? Why would they want UTEP? Engineering degrees and being a portal to Mexican students doesn’t matter to ESPN and Fox. Or Boise, or Oregon St.
You have to be kidding,
It will be less, if UTEP moves in 2026, in fact it may end up very minimal. The GOR is not a big deal in CUSA. The travel cost alone, would eat up some of the cost...
Whoa! I did not know UNLV has very big debt? Second, the P12 has not even reached out to UNLV as of two days ago.
"* As of early this week, the Pac-12 had not reached out to UNLV about potentially joining the conference, so perhaps the Rebels aren't as attractive as they appear on paper given their big media market, good budget and facilities and improving football team. One potential issue for UNLV is the fact it has a $20.6 million athletics debt, which surely doesn't make the Regents happy. Asking those same Regents to OK a move to the Pac-12 that will incur an $18 million exit fee might be a tough sell, although nobody knows how much of these exit fees the Pac-12 will pay for for departing MW schools."
https://nevadasportsnet.com/newslet...-the-mountain-west-and-conference-realignment
"* As of early this week, the Pac-12 had not reached out to UNLV about potentially joining the conference, so perhaps the Rebels aren't as attractive as they appear on paper given their big media market, good budget and facilities and improving football team. One potential issue for UNLV is the fact it has a $20.6 million athletics debt, which surely doesn't make the Regents happy. Asking those same Regents to OK a move to the Pac-12 that will incur an $18 million exit fee might be a tough sell, although nobody knows how much of these exit fees the Pac-12 will pay for for departing MW schools."
https://nevadasportsnet.com/newslet...-the-mountain-west-and-conference-realignment
Just adding that the movie studios being built near the San Marcos area is going to have a huge impact for the area, the I35 corridor, and Texas State.
Their DII nattys from the 80s still brings a huge sense of pride for their fans, and with their recent success - they are coming out of the woodwork!
The Bowls are not affiliated with the Universities that call them home!!! This has been told to you many times lol
Correct. If UTEP were to move in 2026, the exit fee would likely be around $1.6M. Article below:
Here's why Conference USA signed a Grant of Rights agreement
If you're a CUSA fan, I recommend you back away from the ledge
www.extrapointsmb.com
Fili, quick question. Why would the Sun Bowl want the new Pac 12? Maybe if they get the conference winner.
The Bowls are going to be a mess for the next few years.
The Bowls are going to be a mess for the next few years.
Because Fili (for some reason) thinks UTEP can tell The Sun Bowl Committee what to do.
