I think the PAC-8 or whatever they will be called want a presence in Texas. What other Texas school would make sense for them to add to the conference? We all want UTEP to be the Texas school but lack of success in fb and bb is concerning. I don't think they want to add a doormat team. Other sports used to be important for the PAC-12 such as baseball, gymnastics, swimming..
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No, f*ck us for never getting our shit together.
Wonder if this means the AAC teams are not interested?
It’s more expensive to raid the MW. UNLV is obvious. The AAC teams appear unwilling to jump ship without knowing the media rights deal.
The NCAA does not want more FCS teams to move up. They feel like it’s bloated and unbalanced now.
I see this as bad news for UTEP to the MW. Air Force is in negotiations with AAC. You can bet that the few schools left in the MW are trying to leave today! The MW could be dead soon.
UTEP and NMSU can build the Mountain West then. Just add the Montana and Dakota schools.
I don’t know, hard to say. I think he’s just reporting those are the “backups” or teams 9-10 or 11-12.
Let’s say, the Pac 12 does take them both and AFA leaves to the AAC. That leaves 5 of them and again, those teams need to be a conference for a few years to collect the exit fees.
Theoretically, a school like UNM could join the AAC, but they would be losing out on that P12 money, paying an exit fee to the MWC, and then joining an AAC without Memphis, Tulane, possibly UTSA, and USF. Is it worth it at that point?
The remaining schools kinda have to invite UTEP, NMSU, and whoever else is willing to join at the point.
At worst, UTEP is still in CUSA with MWC leftovers or CUSA remains untouched and nothing changes. There’s really no scenario where UTEP ends up worse off.
Seems like in this scenario the best for all would be for CUSA to absorb the remaining MWC schools and return to West and East divisions.
Utah State is right there with UTSA on schools that I just can’t just believe passed us by.
Utah St is about an hour from Salt Lake City. If you understand that’s more important than anything else, it’s easy to believe.
There’s 11 pages of convo where these things have already been posted
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Pac12 not dead?
Looks like they might weaken the MWC. Then UTEP can join with Wyoming and the leftovers.
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With this sudden PAC 12 talk maybe another poll should be made for that 😂
Either UNM has THAT much pull to keep NMSU and us out the MW, or the MW doesn’t care for either of us
If the MW doesn’t care for UTEP, we should stop begging to be in their conference like a stage 5 clinger. Forget “historic rivalries”.
If the MW doesn’t care for UTEP, we should stop begging to be in their conference like a stage 5 clinger. Forget “historic rivalries”.
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Utep is talking to the PAC 12 before considering MWC. Doesn’t mean we get in either, but Utep is at least exploring options.
lol how would joining the PAC 12 set utep athletics back? Plus how much more can UTEP athletics be set back? We just lost to a crappy FCS school a few weeks ago for god sake.
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‘Sets UTEP athletics back’
We are the worst team in the worst Division 1 conference. What is he talking about?
You have to make progress to have a set back
Yeah, they have sucked at leading our athletic department. Excuse me if I don't trust them.
This might be one of the worst takes of the year.
Hate when he does that…idk. I know that his show is on the Apple Podcasts and there’s an AI transcript. Maybe it’s somewhere in there
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He didn’t say anything that sounded like he had any knowledge. I caught the last caller and Steve and Adrian basically said that he doesn’t expect UTEP to show its hand, they do not want to seem disloyal to CUSA, and if anything is happening it’s going to be kept quiet and close to the vest.
Really a nothing burger
Really a nothing burger
They also mentioned they didn't think UTEP received any money as a result of the previous defections from CUSA. Fwiw.
Just read what he said with sarcasm, and it will make sense.
That's interesting. Any reason why not? I remember it was a substantial sum, compared to the annual media deal.
Because it's El Paso isn't that enough of an explanation?
I don't think they really elaborated on why, just that they had not heard of any such payout. I believe it was supposed to be around $5M, so that is a pretty substantial amount if UTEP never got it.
I wonder if it went to the former FCS schools to help with their transition. Even so, UTEP should've fought harder for their share. Would be nice to meet a follow up from them.
That’s unfortunately not a legal reason to withhold those funds lol I don’t believe that’s the case. All 5 schools who remained will get an equal sum if it’s nut still help up in litigation. Some of ya’ll Miner fans really believe non sense lol
It's hilarious that it's deleted. Wonder if the administration saw the tweet before he deleted it. I tweeted back at him that the administration is happy with mediocrity. UTEP coaches don't want tougher competitions because they can continue being mediocre at UTEP and the administration is okay with it. Look at both dimel and Golding getting raises and extensions for mediocre years.
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Zero accountability, from our college administration all the way to our City Leaders. That’s why we’re a joke to the rest of the county.
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Surely you're not serious, and don't call me Shirley.
Steve and Adrian flipped worse than Kamala on this one- one day they say if this doesn’t happen, we should hold the athletic department accountable if they don’t join or not invited to either conference - and then next day maybe it’s better we stay where we are - ha! They just didn’t think or didn’t account for outside the region of MW looking for exposure outside of Pacific or Mountain Time zones - I still think if we don’t leave CUSA - it’s the universities lack of presence and leadership- we have the facilities to match and fan base when we do win. - what a shit show
Well I think what they were saying is the MWC will be watered down version of its old self, but still better for Utep than where we’re currently at. Everyone can doubt me as much as you want that’s fine, but I already said I knew a cost effectiveness analysis was done and today I can confirm Wilson has reached out to both PAC 12 and MWC. What I hear is MWC is interested in Utep, but Wilson prefers PAC 12 if a move is made. I say just be careful she doesn’t lose both by holding out on MWC at the time. It may come down to the financial commitment. PAC 12 is going to expect its teams to spend a lot more than MWC will on athletics.
