OPT: UTEP at UCSB

[MinerManiac]

At the risk of infuriating Fili (the horrors!), as I didnt check to see who "won" the last basketball OPT before starting this one (yes, I'm ashamed), here is the OPT for our next Men's Basketball game, Wednesday at UCSB. Our last road game at Utah Valley didn't go so well, and even though UCSB had a similar record to Utah Valley last year, with the Gauchos finishing 16-15, UCSB is expected to have a much better season this year, as they were picked to finish 2nd in the Big West. They have also started 4-0, with wins over Portland, Fresno State, and SJSU. I'm not expecting a victory on the road, and if we play like we did against Utah Valley this score could get even uglier. I do expect us to a bit better than we were in that game, however, so the score shouldn't be quite as lopsided.

UCSB 84
UTEP 67

 

[jdubb66]

UTEP rebounds over/under: 29

 

[PickMyAxe915]

UTEP rebounds over/under: 29

Even UTPB outrebounded UTEP. So I'd go under.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

Utep 77
UCSB 72

 

[utep2step]

Even UTPB outrebounded UTEP. So I'd go under.

That was utterly disgusting. Their big man couldn't even play above the rim but out rebounded UTEP single handed. It's going to be a long year.

UTEP 74
USCB 84

 

[FiliUTEP]

Why doesn't Golding wear Utep gear?? In my Twitter drama thread someone brought up Golding wasn't wearing Adidas gear.

 

[Hollywoodminer]

look for a dog fight.. Miners come up short. They still have to learn to win on the road.
Miners 67
UCSB 71

 

[utep2step]

look for a dog fight.. Miners come up short. They still have to learn to win on the road.
Miners 67
UCSB 71

Hope springs eternal.

 

[axingfools1]

look for a dog fight.. Miners come up short. They still have to learn to win on the road.
Miners 67
UCSB 71

Only men win on the road

 

[axingfools1]

Why doesn't Golding wear Utep gear?? In my Twitter drama thread someone brought up Golding wasn't wearing Adidas gear.

Maybe it's in the laundry?

 

[dementiajoe]

Maybe it's in the laundry?

Why aren’t coaches wearing suits and ties? The pandemic is long over.

 

[PickMyAxe915]

look for a dog fight.. Miners come up short. They still have to learn to win on the road.
Miners 67
UCSB 71

Fourth season and the road woes continue.

 

[jdubb66]

You can't win consistently if you don't rebound. Especially on the road. Shooting comes and goes but rebounding is ALL desire. Ganas. If you don't put out the effort there, I question the effort in general. Con ganas ganas.

 

[KaneFan29]

Fourth season and the road woes continue.

Sorry guy, 4 years just isn’t enough time to win here. Maybe next season?

 

[FiliUTEP]

Maybe it's in the laundry?

I'm sure he has boxes of free fresh Adidas gear .

 

[PickMyAxe915]

Sorry guy, 4 years just isn’t enough time to win here. Maybe next season?

Lol I'm gonna be patient with the football program but my patience with Golding is completely eroded.

 

[PickMyAxe915]

Maybe it's in the laundry?

Maybe Golding is awful on the road because he never remembers to bring his own detergent.

 

[FiliUTEP]

Maybe Golding is awful on the road because he never remembers to bring his own detergent.

I think there is drama going on . With Golding not wearing Utep gear ,and he not following Senter, President Wilson, and David Terrell. I think he is gone after this season.

 

[PickMyAxe915]

I think there is drama going on . With Golding not wearing Utep gear ,and he not following Senter, President Wilson, and David Terrell. I think he is gone after this season.

Hopefully so.

 

[dementiajoe]

In the era of NIL and transfer portal, the days of giving a coach 3-4-5 years to turn a program around are over. Win now or get your ass kicked out the door.

 

[utep1966]

Why aren’t coaches wearing suits and ties? The pandemic is long over.

Some coaches do.

 

[MinerManiac]

You can't win consistently if you don't rebound. Especially on the road. Shooting comes and goes but rebounding is ALL desire. Ganas. If you don't put out the effort there, I question the effort in general. Con ganas ganas.

Offensive rebounding is all desire. Defensive rebounding is all fundamentals. The ball goes up, put a body on the man you're guarding, and he has no chance to get the board. Unfortunately, not only can't we shoot, we are not fundamentally sound, either.

 

[FiliUTEP]

Hopefully so.

Well I think it's, more like if he loses or if doesn't get to the tournament . NCAA or NIT he is out. If he makes it to the NCAA he probably skips town and goes to another job

 

[STexMiner]

You can't win consistently if you don't rebound. Especially on the road. Shooting comes and goes but rebounding is ALL desire. Ganas. If you don't put out the effort there, I question the effort in general. Con ganas ganas.

Some goes for half court defense. His defense may be able to get steals, but I've never been impressed with his half court defense.

 

[Lil_Train]

Offensive rebounding is all desire. Defensive rebounding is all fundamentals. The ball goes up, put a body on the man you're guarding, and he has no chance to get the board. Unfortunately, not only can't we shoot, we are not fundamentally sound, either.

I agree. I will add that the lack of length at nearly all spots is also a problem, especially when playing four guards and one big. Plus, the defensive scheme that Golding runs often puts guys in mismatch situations for defensive rebounding. Golding made the switch last year to the four guard lineup after the debacle at NMSU to help the team score, but this year, he really only added Barnes and Bynum. While they are ok players on the offensive side, they aren't going to be able to help with defensive rebounding like Hardy and Powell did last year.

Again, I point to Golding's inability to bring in one or two true 3/4 types with length to provide immediate help in this area. Looking at the roster, Golding brought in two guys in Mbengue and Wickware who are no where near able to contribute. Hamilton and Jones would really need to step up in a huge way just to give this team a chance to compete against decent teams. I'm hoping the team shows something tomorrow against a good UCSB team, but the performance against Utah Valley was very disappointing for Golding. It is one thing when a team isn't able to make shots, but the way the team gave up on defense was a very poor reflection on Golding as a coach.

 

[kickballpro]

I think there is drama going on . With Golding not wearing Utep gear ,and he not following Senter, President Wilson, and David Terrell. I think he is gone after this season.

Interesting. Maybe that’s why they brought in Colin Deaver? To be a Liaison between Golding and administration?

But reading through Joe Golding’s contract, it’s a 5 year deal with 100% contract buyout in years 1-3 that becomes 50% in years 4 and 5. There is savings to the University by letting start year 4.

https://www.ktsm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2021/08/Joseph-Golding-2021-2026180494.pdf

 

[FiliUTEP]

Interesting. Maybe that’s why they brought in Colin Deaver? To be a Liaison between Golding and administration?

But reading through Joe Golding’s contract, it’s a 5 year deal with 100% contract buyout in years 1-3 that becomes 50% in years 4 and 5. There is savings to the University by letting start year 4.

https://www.ktsm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2021/08/Joseph-Golding-2021-2026180494.pdf

I lost count what year is he now?? It seems he has been here a long time.

 

[axingfools1]

I agree. I will add that the lack of length at nearly all spots is also a problem, especially when playing four guards and one big. Plus, the defensive scheme that Golding runs often puts guys in mismatch situations for defensive rebounding. Golding made the switch last year to the four guard lineup after the debacle at NMSU to help the team score, but this year, he really only added Barnes and Bynum. While they are ok players on the offensive side, they aren't going to be able to help with defensive rebounding like Hardy and Powell did last year.

Again, I point to Golding's inability to bring in one or two true 3/4 types with length to provide immediate help in this area. Looking at the roster, Golding brought in two guys in Mbengue and Wickware who are no where near able to contribute. Hamilton and Jones would really need to step up in a huge way just to give this team a chance to compete against decent teams. I'm hoping the team shows something tomorrow against a good UCSB team, but the performance against Utah Valley was very disappointing for Golding. It is one thing when a team isn't able to make shots, but the way the team gave up on defense was a very poor reflection on Golding as a coach.

Me too, but I dont see it happening. Too many missing links and what ifs. The poor recruiting is catching up.

I've never been a fan of his defense. I'm an inside out guy. I hate giving up all the layups and rebounds. I think the hedging with centers is dumb.

 

[FiliUTEP]

I lost count what year is he now?? It seems he has been here a long time.

The contract is interesting. He hasn't received any bonuses I think, he does get a bonus for beating NMSU. I don't even remember if Utep has beaten NMSu.