Transfer Portal
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That kid has transferred 4 times? I understand the argument that kids were being exploited by the NCAA since it generates immense amounts of revenue. But when someone is transferring 4 times they are essentially abusing the system.
Miner signee Jamal West is on his 4th school now, is he abusing the system?
Just because he’s a Miner doesn’t change my view on players who have transferred 4 times. I’ve said it before, how can any of these guys develop if they’re jumping from school to school? We’re swapping a bunch of C level guys for a new batch of C level guys. And every offseason they are scrambling to build cohesiveness in a matter of months meaning MBB is stuck in a perpetual rebuild while players chase NIL money. Schools like UTEP have rarely had the luxury of reloading in the offseason, and this year will probably be no different. So yes… does that clear up any confusion?
Tyrin Smith is the prime example of what constant transferring does to your development. How many UTEP transfers ended up in better positions?
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It's mostly about about money and playing time. I imagine they think they will develop on their own.
Exactly! Getting good on your own is the expectation, but unfortunately most players just want the money expected but don't want to put in the effort that is expected. Most elite players get to elite by training on their own, not just what they do in practice. Those that are able to go out and get trainers, nutritionists, managers, etc. to help them reach that next rung. This is at every level, from elementary to the pros. Others are just "well I increased my PPG by 1.6, pay me. No? I'm entering the portal"
Exactly. And you can see where college basketball is suffering. Bigger schools who can consistently rearm with high level talent every off season have such an advantage. Smaller schools can’t develop players and lean on experience because everyone wants to leave in the offseason. These kids coming in this season, they are not OT, Fili and J Will. It’s a bunch of 10 ppg guys. Losing “meh” to replace it with “meh”. Until Golding and company, or any subsequent coach bucks the trend I stand by this statement.
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But those are two different things.
The NCAA has made a mockery of itself and is destroying college sports. That a 22 year old is making the most of the situation is the NCAA’s own doing and I don’t blame him one bit
Who cares? Nobody worried about where we would be in 10 or 15 years when we were 22. That's just life.
Can you tell us what Trevor Vittatoe, Joe West, Antoine Gillispie, Carl Davis, and Matt Wilms are currently doing with their UTEP educations?
I believe Vittatoe is a high school coach, Wilms got his masters in communications, so I sure he moved forward in that field. Gillispie founded and runs Ball Academy in Sweden.
Not sure of the others.
Are you suggesting that did nothing with their education after UTEP?
Not sure of the others.
Are you suggesting that did nothing with their education after UTEP?
That's great for them. Nice to hear that they've carved out a successful adult life post UTEP. That said, I don't check what UTEP athletes do after they leave UTEP whether via portal or graduation. I don't know why anyone would really spend any time worrying about it either.
No, I am suggesting that nobody really cares what they do after they leave UTEP.
I agree, I googled a couple of the guys. It was implied that athletes do nothing with their education. Just called B S. I hope everyone has a successful life, education and stability have a lot to do with that.
I know I would have been more successful if I had stuck with college and earned by degree.
SHOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE. But we can’t change the past.
I know I would have been more successful if I had stuck with college and earned by degree.
SHOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE. But we can’t change the past.
Very very very few athletes are legitimately getting an education, nor have they for a long time. Players from the late 80s and early 90s that I had classes with rarely attended, cheated on the tests, and had people doing their homework for them.
Obviously there were exceptions. One of my fellow electrical engineering students was a safety on the football team. He worked so hard and it took him extra years to graduate because he had to take fewer classes to keep up.
But the exception proves the rule. Did guys "graduate"? Sure. Did they move on and do useful things with their lives? In many cases, yes. It takes more than raw talent to succed at D1. It takes hard work and mental and physical fortitude. These are qualities that will pay off, and maybe more handsomely than an education. But did most of these guys really meaningfully attend classes and learn anything? Emphatically no.
Obviously there were exceptions. One of my fellow electrical engineering students was a safety on the football team. He worked so hard and it took him extra years to graduate because he had to take fewer classes to keep up.
But the exception proves the rule. Did guys "graduate"? Sure. Did they move on and do useful things with their lives? In many cases, yes. It takes more than raw talent to succed at D1. It takes hard work and mental and physical fortitude. These are qualities that will pay off, and maybe more handsomely than an education. But did most of these guys really meaningfully attend classes and learn anything? Emphatically no.
Sounds just like someone I took classes with in EE, and he also had a work-study job since he was a walk on.
I am drawing a blank on his name. I think he was a walk on. He got hurt at some point and spent some time in a knee brace. I remember he got some PT and got a tackle in a game and all us engineering students went nuts.
I want to say something like Dahlberg but its entirely possible thats some random guy I had classes with whose name popped in my head. I was there from 88-93 and i’m thinking he played in the range of 90-92
