UTEP Basketball Schedule

[picks up]

It’s partly what kickball wrote, but it’s been 10 years since UTEP had a NIT caliber team. That team didn’t even sniff the NCAAs and no team since has come close to sniffing the NIT.

Throw in a degrading home schedule and a degrading CUSA and you get what we have. We’re currently “equals” with Sam Houston St and Jacksonville St, when 20 years ago, they would have been buy game opponents or the worst team in the SBI, going home with 2 losses.

Lack of winning and worst opponents in the country are why people don’t go. You can improve all that other stuff, but it doesn’t matter if you’re finishing 16-15 or your best wins are Yale and UCSB.

To me the opponents are a lesser point than the lack of winning. Most of us don't go to games to see the other team, we go to see our team. If we are winning constantly we would get 7-8k to watch Timbuktu State play UTEP. It's what this city used to do and still can do. Obviously, bringing big names helps attendance but the reality is that it's not going to happen consistently. Winning solves all our problems.

 

[KaneFan29]

To me the opponents are a lesser point than the lack of winning. Most of us don't go to games to see the other team, we go to see our team. If we are winning constantly we would get 7-8k to watch Timbuktu State play UTEP. It's what this city used to do and still can do. Obviously, bringing big names helps attendance but the reality is that it's not going to happen consistently. Winning solves all our problems.

But it does matter. Who wants to see NNMU on Saturday? I would bet if Tarleton St was the opponent on Saturday, there would be a lot more interest in the game. Season ticket purchases would be higher if UNM, BYU, Utah, and Fresno St were the opponents instead of FIU, Liberty, Sam Houston, Kennesaw St, and MTSU.

 

[nattybry]

It’ll pick up once we are in the mountain west I think. Playing Wyoming, UNLV, Nevada, UNM … etc… hits different for fans.

 

[minerfan_14]

It’ll pick if we wanna and once we are in the mountain west I think. Playing Wyoming, UNLV, Nevada, UNM … etc… hits different for fans.

I doubt it'll hit the same way for the newer generation (2005 grads onward, when we left the WAC) than it would for the older, but we'll see. It'll be a nice change for sure.

 

[picks up]

But it does matter. Who wants to see NNMU on Saturday? I would bet if Tarleton St was the opponent on Saturday, there would be a lot more interest in the game. Season ticket purchases would be higher if UNM, BYU, Utah, and Fresno St were the opponents instead of FIU, Liberty, Sam Houston, Kennesaw St, and MTSU.

Those days are long gone. We will never have that type of schedule again. Yes, a D1 would attract more than NNMU but I still think winning constantly would do more to the attendance. When I say consistently, I mean years not a year. It's the only real way to build a fan base.

 

[utep1966]

6-8k is what we should be getting at minimum. We lost a lot of fans after all these years of losing. Old fans have passed and new fans weren't made during this time. We stopped winning and our fanbase diminished. It sucks. UTEP let this happen. It's hard to believe we still have a decent fanbase for a G5 after all these years of crap.

LOL It is ludicrous that you think 6,000-8,000 should be attending the games AT MINIMUM.

 

[KaneFan29]

Those days are long gone. We will never have that type of schedule again. Yes, a D1 would attract more than NNMU but I still think winning constantly would do more to the attendance. When I say consistently, I mean years not a year. It's the only real way to build a fan base.

Yeah because the name is everything. You can’t make a movie with Jennifer Aniston and then replace her with Jamie Lynn Spears for the next one and expect people to keep going. That’s essentially what UTEP has been doing.

 

[Minerinciter]

Has the game day atmosphere gotten any better or worse at the DHC this year?

 

[kickballpro]

Yeah because the name is everything. You can’t make a movie with Jennifer Aniston and then replace her with Jamie Lynn Spears for the next one and expect people to keep going. That’s essentially what UTEP has been doing.

You have to wonder if it’s incompetence or arrogance that UTEP thinks fans will just show up for anything regardless of the price or product.

How many times does Kids Night or Military Night have to fail before the school realizes that it’s not moving the needle.

 

[picks up]

LOL It is ludicrous that you think 6,000-8,000 should be attending the games AT MINIMUM.

Welp some people think it's ridiculous to reply to every post. To reach their own though.

Edit: I was curious and looked it up. 8 years ago we were averaging over 6k and 10 years ago we were averaging over 8k. That's not so long ago. So, yes I stand by my original opinion. It's doable and has been done before.

 

[picks up]

You have to wonder if it’s incompetence or arrogance that UTEP thinks fans will just show up for anything regardless of the price or product.

How many times does Kids Night or Military Night have to fail before the school realizes that it’s not moving the needle.

The prices I can't defend.

 

[utep1966]

Welp some people think it's ridiculous to reply to every post. To reach their own though.

Edit: I was curious and looked it up. 8 years ago we were averaging over 6k and 10 years ago we were averaging over 8k. That's not so long ago. So, yes I stand by my original opinion. It's doable and has been done before.

Who's responding to every post?

You're talking about the past. A lot of those fans are gone. Let's just accept that UTEP is leading CUSA in attendance, be happy, and move on.

 

[utep1966]

Has the game day atmosphere gotten any better or worse at the DHC this year?

It's been stagnant for many years.

 

[utep1966]

You have to wonder if it’s incompetence or arrogance that UTEP thinks fans will just show up for anything regardless of the price or product.

How many times does Kids Night or Military Night have to fail before the school realizes that it’s not moving the needle.

I think it's more apathy. The people in charge aren't pressured to do anything differently, so the same people do the same things every year.

 

[utep2step]

You have to wonder if it’s incompetence or arrogance that UTEP thinks fans will just show up for anything regardless of the price or product.

How many times does Kids Night or Military Night have to fail before the school realizes that it’s not moving the needle.

Don't do military night and face backlash. Except it or not, El Paso is a military town. Fort Bliss and most of your older generation tio's and grandpacito served in the Marines.


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[KaneFan29]

Don't do military night and face backlash. Except it or not, El Paso is a military town. Fort Bliss and most of your older generation tio's and grandpacito served in the Marines.

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Oh yeah, I bet all the soldiers would cause an uproar if military night was canceled!

When was military night this year 2Step?

 

[KaneFan29]

You have to wonder if it’s incompetence or arrogance that UTEP thinks fans will just show up for anything regardless of the price or product.

How many times does Kids Night or Military Night have to fail before the school realizes that it’s not moving the needle.

It’s just lazy. No imagination. A real promoter would be running a special on tickets and concessions to get people out to the game on Saturday. Senter doesn’t care about fans. He would rather see 2,000 people that paid full price for tickets and concessions than get more people in there.

 

[picks up]

Who's responding to every post?

You're talking about the past. A lot of those fans are gone. Let's just accept that UTEP is leading CUSA in attendance, be happy, and move on.

We won't be leading MWC. I won't accept that this is the best we can do.