Kaplowitz: Which Jersey Should UTEP Retire Next?

[MinerFan79]

IMO Stefon Jackson and Antoine Gillespie should be no-brainers. Interesting list he compiled:

Kappy's Corner: Which UTEP basketball player's number should be retired?

A few weeks ago, when I was at the sold-out Don Haskins Center, I looked up into the rafters and took special notice of all the UTEP men’s basketball jerseys

www.elpasoinc.com

 

[FiliUTEP]

There is nobody else. Stop retiring so many numbers.

 

[KaneFan29]

IMO Stefon Jackson and Antoine Gillespie should be no-brainers. Interesting list he compiled:

Kappy's Corner: Which UTEP basketball player's number should be retired?

A few weeks ago, when I was at the sold-out Don Haskins Center, I looked up into the rafters and took special notice of all the UTEP men’s basketball jerseys

www.elpasoinc.com

How you going to retire Stefon but not Randy? I would retire both of them, but only because they were all-time leading scorers. Randy at least played on good teams.

I think all the “honored” players should be removed from the arena and place around the concourse. Give them a picture and some information about them. Give people in their early 30s or younger, a reason to give a shit about Brandon Wolfram and Ralph Davis.

 

[bamfor]

How you going to retire Stefon but not Randy? I would retire both of them, but only because they were all-time leading scorers. Randy at least played on good teams.

I think all the “honored” players should be removed from the arena and place around the concourse. Give them a picture and some information about them. Give people in their early 30s or younger, a reason to give a shit about Brandon Wolfram and Ralph Davis.

Randy played may have played on better teams but it is retiring the jersey, not the team. Stefon should be the next jersey retired as he is the current points leader in UTEP men’s history. Realistically they should retire Stefon next season and Randy the season after.

I do agree that they need to do something else regarding the honored numbers, and having informational posters with their accomplishments around the arena is a good idea.

 

[KaneFan29]

Randy played may have played on better teams but it is retiring the jersey, not the team. Stefon should be the next jersey retired as he is the current points leader in UTEP men’s history. Realistically they should retire Stefon next season and Randy the season after.

I do agree that they need to do something else regarding the honored numbers, and having informational posters with their accomplishments around the arena is a good idea.

For some reason I thought Randy had passed Stefon. I only think Jackson should have his number retired. Randy can be in the honored group.

 

[Dmanminer]

How you going to retire Stefon but not Randy? I would retire both of them, but only because they were all-time leading scorers. Randy at least played on good teams.

I think all the “honored” players should be removed from the arena and place around the concourse. Give them a picture and some information about them. Give people in their early 30s or younger, a reason to give a shit about Brandon Wolfram and Ralph Davis.

I like that idea! Damn Kane you can have some positive thoughts!

 

[utep1966]

I like that idea! Damn Kane you can have some positive thoughts!

It must be his time of the month.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

Retire the blue jersey...nothing else

 

[Hot For Keitha]

How about we just retire Senter instead.

 

[MinerFan79]

How you going to retire Stefon but not Randy? I would retire both of them, but only because they were all-time leading scorers. Randy at least played on good teams.

I think all the “honored” players should be removed from the arena and place around the concourse. Give them a picture and some information about them. Give people in their early 30s or younger, a reason to give a shit about Brandon Wolfram and Ralph Davis.

I agree with you on Randy. He was beloved and great

 

[picks up]

I wonder if Randy is still playing. It is time to honor him. It's been 14 years since his time here. Isn't that crazy?

 

[KaneFan29]

I wonder if Randy is still playing. It is time to honor him. It's been 14 years since his time here. Isn't that crazy?

There’s probably not going to be a lot of players like him for awhile either. These guys don’t stay 4 years at any school, let alone UTEP.

 

[SisyphusMiner]

I may be out of sync with everyone here. I'm not sure about retiring any of these guys numbers. Honor? For sure.

How is Julyan Stone not on this list?

 

[MineroFanatico]

I may be out of sync with everyone here. I'm not sure about retiring any of these guys numbers. Honor? For sure.

How is Julyan Stone not on this list?

I really liked JS, but jersey retirement? The only player I’ve ever witnessed being worthy of it is Tim Hardaway.

Some of these other guys are UTEP greats…but not great great.

In my opinion, both should be a requirement. UTEP great and considered great by those outside of UTEP. Just my own .02 worth.

 

[SisyphusMiner]

I really liked JS, but jersey retirement? The only player I’ve ever witnessed being worthy of it is Tim Hardaway.

Some of these other guys are UTEP greats…but not great great.

In my opinion, both should be a requirement. UTEP great and considered great by those outside of UTEP. Just my own .02 worth.

I specifically said NOT jersey retirement for any of these guys. I totally agree with your argument.

My point re Stone is just if you’re talking about greatt players he should be in the discussion. Probably the best PG since Hardaway. He didn’t score a lot but had a 2:1 A/TO ratio as well as amazing D.

 

[Cube Jack]

Of the 7 players whose 5 numbers are retired, I believe 6 of them are in some form of Hall of Fame.

1966 team -Lattin, Flournoy, Hill (Naismith)
Richardson (Naismith and college)
Hardaway (Naismith)
Archibald (Naismith and college)

The only one who isn't is Barnes, who was a #1 overall NBA pick and won a gold medal in 1964.

I like a lot of the mentioned players, but to retire a number should mean something more than "he was good and I liked him"

 

[utep2step]

He is still playing.

 

[utep2step]

 

[MineroFanatico]

I specifically said NOT jersey retirement for any of these guys. I totally agree with your argument.

My point re Stone is just if you’re talking about greatt players he should be in the discussion. Probably the best PG since Hardaway. He didn’t score a lot but had a 2:1 A/TO ratio as well as amazing D.

My bad. I don't read well on Monday mornings. Good assist to to ratio. Agree, his defense was stellar.

 

[SisyphusMiner]

My bad. I don't read well on Monday mornings. Good assist to to ratio. Agree, his defense was stellar.

no worries

 

[jdubb66]

Not to retire but to honor some how. Best inside player I ever remember at UTEP, and one of the toughest, was Derrick Caracter. He was totally engaged with UTEP and the team for two years. His transfer year he was on the sidelines every game cheering on the team. When he earned his eligibility, he gave everything, every game. Scored 20 points and had 9 rebounds against Butler in the tournament. At 6'9" he was just a massive inside force dominating all the bigs he came up against. Wish he'd stayed one more year.

 

[utep2step]

Not to retire but to honor some how. Best inside player I ever remember at UTEP, and one of the toughest, was Derrick Caracter. He was totally engaged with UTEP and the team for two years. His transfer year he was on the sidelines every game cheering on the team. When he earned his eligibility, he gave everything, every game. Scored 20 points and had 9 rebounds against Butler in the tournament. At 6'9" he was just a massive inside force dominating all the bigs he came up against. Wish he'd stayed one more year.

That was all Barbee. Even his own mother stated back in his prime (prior to UTEP) he had a bad attitude. But yes, he gave it his all. His total domination of OU for his first game in a Miner uni made me smile eat to ear.

 

[MinerFan79]

I may be out of sync with everyone here. I'm not sure about retiring any of these guys numbers. Honor? For sure.

How is Julyan Stone not on this list?

You wouldn’t retire the jersey of the man who owns the alltime scoring record, Stefon Jackson? I May be wrong about this but didn’t Julyan Stone only play one season for us ?

 

[KaneFan29]

You wouldn’t retire the jersey of the man who owns the alltime scoring record, Stefon Jackson? I May be wrong about this but didn’t Julyan Stone only play one season for us ?

You’re 1000% wrong. He played here 4 years - Stone.

 

[MinerFan79]

You’re 1000% wrong. He played here 4 years - Stone.

You’re right I looked. Other than make the NBA what did he do that was so great? I mean , Julian Washburn made it to the NBA if that’s the standard

 

[KaneFan29]

You’re right I looked. Other than make the NBA what did he do that was so great? I mean , Julian Washburn made it to the NBA if that’s the standard

I think he was an excellent player. His stats don’t stand out, but he should have some kind of recognition in the DHC. Not saying a number retirement though.

 

[MineroFanatico]

You wouldn’t retire the jersey of the man who owns the alltime scoring record, Stefon Jackson? I May be wrong about this but didn’t Julyan Stone only play one season for us ?

Great scorer. Had a knack for putting the ball in the bucket. Shot at a pretty good clip. I mean this with all due respect, he just didn’t make anyone around him better.

 

[unihorn]

Of the 7 players whose 5 numbers are retired, I believe 6 of them are in some form of Hall of Fame.

1966 team -Lattin, Flournoy, Hill (Naismith)
Richardson (Naismith and college)
Hardaway (Naismith)
Archibald (Naismith and college)

The only one who isn't is Barnes, who was a #1 overall NBA pick and won a gold medal in 1964.

I like a lot of the mentioned players, but to retire a number should mean something more than "he was good and I liked him"

Agreed — except for Jackson. Top scorer means a great deal. His record may never be broken.

 

[unihorn]

Not to retire but to honor some how. Best inside player I ever remember at UTEP, and one of the toughest, was Derrick Caracter. He was totally engaged with UTEP and the team for two years. His transfer year he was on the sidelines every game cheering on the team. When he earned his eligibility, he gave everything, every game. Scored 20 points and had 9 rebounds against Butler in the tournament. At 6'9" he was just a massive inside force dominating all the bigs he came up against. Wish he'd stayed one more year.

He only played here one year.

 

[unihorn]

Not to retire but to honor some how. Best inside player I ever remember at UTEP, and one of the toughest, was Derrick Caracter. He was totally engaged with UTEP and the team for two years. His transfer year he was on the sidelines every game cheering on the team. When he earned his eligibility, he gave everything, every game. Scored 20 points and had 9 rebounds against Butler in the tournament. At 6'9" he was just a massive inside force dominating all the bigs he came up against. Wish he'd stayed one more year.

I went to that Butler game. We led at the half. Butler damn near won it all.

The minute that game was over, so too was our basketball future. Hard to believe it’s been 15 years.

 

[unihorn]

Great scorer. Had a knack for putting the ball in the bucket. Shot at a pretty good clip. I mean this with all due respect, he just didn’t make anyone around him better.

Or maybe his teammates just weren’t very good.

 

[unihorn]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=2251186

 

[KaneFan29]

The minute that game was over, so too was our basketball future. Hard to believe it’s been 15 years.

Not really. We could have hired Billy Gillispie. We could have hired some other assistant coach. We could have hired the 2010 version of RT or JG.

Instead we hired Tim Floyd. He promised big things and complained about a league he couldn’t even win. UTEP wanted a coach who wouldn’t leave for bigger things and we ended up with a coach who quit on the program and relegated it to trash.

 

[unihorn]

Not really. We could have hired Billy Gillispie. We could have hired some other assistant coach. We could have hired the 2010 version of RT or JG.

Instead we hired Tim Floyd. He promised big things and complained about a league he couldn’t even win. UTEP wanted a coach who wouldn’t leave for bigger things and we ended up with a coach who quit on the program and relegated it to trash.

Floyd bewitched all the older boosters. What a dick and a fraud that guy was here.

 

[Lil_Train]

Floyd bewitched all the older boosters. What a dick and a fraud that guy was here.

At this point, I kind of wish he would charm any old boosters that are left to pony up for the move to the MWC. It would be even better if he actually contributed himself since he complained so much about not being in it.

 

[KaneFan29]

At this point, I kind of wish he would charm any old boosters that are left to pony up for the move to the MWC. It would be even better if he actually contributed himself since he complained so much about not being in it.

Floyd might have been more successful in today’s game actually. Could have had a new calvary every year.

 

[kickballpro]

Floyd bewitched all the older boosters. What a dick and a fraud that guy was here.

Bob Haack was a legendary area High School Coach who won a State Championship at Santa Teresa and took Hanks to the Final Eight.

Coach Haack passed away in October 2016. Tim Floyd showed up to the Funeral and talked to everyone like they were all good friends. He was very engaging and stayed the entire time.

I used to think this guy is such a egotistical dick and he couldn’t have been nicer the only time I interacted with him

 

[utep2step]

You’re 1000% wrong. He played here 4 years - Stone.

Yep. Lock down defender and one of the best UTEP defenders.

Julyan Stone Named to C-USA All-Defensive Team; Randy Culpepper Garners All-District Honors - UTEP Miners

March 9, 2010 UTEP junior guard Julyan Stone was appointed to the 2009-10 Conference USA All-Defensive Team on Tuesday, and junior guard Randy Culpepper earned

utepminers.com

 

[Cube Jack]

Morons on Wikipedia insist 43 is retired. I guess they've never actually been in the arena.

UTEP Miners men's basketball - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[UTEPMiners8106]

I think those players were all great and they had great accolades at UTEP but did any of them have any postseason success? That’s why I’m against retiring any more