New MWC Possibility:

[MistaBinks]

UTEP might have been the biggest winner this round - for once. The PAC might be the bigger and better name but they are far more unstable than the MWC. Realistic or not, Washington State and Oregon State will always be looking for an out. Sure, all schools are, but WSU and OSU are more similar to the Big East schools that bailed when all the CUSA 2.0 joined. There is wanting to improve your situation and then there is the reality that you went from being in a Power Conference to being in a mid major with Utah State and Fresno State. We will always have to worry about UNLV and AFA but not in the same way.

 

[KaneFan29]

UTEP might have been the biggest winner this round - for once. The PAC might be the bigger and better name but they are far more unstable than the MWC. Realistic or not, Washington State and Oregon State will always be looking for an out. Sure, all schools are, but WSU and OSU are more similar to the Big East schools that bailed when all the CUSA 2.0 joined. There is wanting to improve your situation and then there is the reality that you went from being in a Power Conference to being in a mid major with Utah State and Fresno State. We will always have to worry about UNLV and AFA but not in the same way.

UTEP certainly did win, by luck, but they still came out a winner. I think UNLV also came out a winner, but long term. They got a bunch of money to stay and can leave the MWC without penalty for a P4 invite, whether that comes or not who knows. Though from their fans perspective, staying in the MWC sucks. I know we would be pissed if UTEP turned down the MWC to stay in CUSA.

OSU and WSU are going nowhere. That’s why they are still in the Pac 12. No P4 wants them.

 

[JCorona]

Luke Fletcher sounds delusional.

 

[FiliUTEP]

 

[KaneFan29]

 

[nattybry]

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St. Mary’s!!!!!

 

[KaneFan29]

St. Mary’s!!!!!

Them and Grand Canyon would the best prospects. Though I am not sure the Gaels are going to blow up their history with the other WCC schools to play San Jose St, Hawaii, Wyoming, and UTEP instead.

 

[FiliUTEP]

St. Mary’s!!!!!

GCU
NMSU

 

[FiliUTEP]

Them and Grand Canyon would the best prospects. Though I am not sure the Gaels are going to blow up their history with the other WCC schools to play San Jose St, Hawaii, Wyoming, and UTEP instead.

WCC is done after Gonzaga left. No reason to stay behind.

 

[KaneFan29]

WCC is done after Gonzaga left. No reason to stay behind.

Unless you like a regional conference and don’t see SJSU, Wyoming, and UTEP as schools you want to associate with.

 

[develman]

Only way St. Marys joins is if it makes financial $ense.

 

[KaneFan29]

Only way St. Marys joins is if it makes financial $ense.

And they still have to leave their all private school conference they’ve been part of for 70 years, to join a bunch of public schools.

 

[TxRdKiller]

And they still have to leave their all private school conference they’ve been part of for 70 years, to join a bunch of public schools.

If there's anything that conference realignment shows these days it is that money talks. Everything else is like the proverbial bullshit. It walks.

 

[KaneFan29]

If there's anything that conference realignment shows these days it is that money talks. Everything else is like the proverbial bullshit. It walks.

They already have money and its costs $58,000 a year to attend. They’re snobs.

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[TxRdKiller]

They already have money and its costs $58,000 a year to attend. They’re snobs.

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Nobody gives a crap about tuition. It's about the TV money for the athletics programs.

 

[minerfan_14]

Nobody gives a crap about tuition. It's about the TV money for the athletics programs.

glad I muted Kane to avoid idiotic statements that require a response like this

 

[nattybry]

Them and Grand Canyon would the best prospects. Though I am not sure the Gaels are going to blow up their history with the other WCC schools to play San Jose St, Hawaii, Wyoming, and UTEP instead.

They’d make more money I’m sure, especially with Gonzaga gone.

 

[Vegas Miner]

Unless you like a regional conference and don’t see SJSU, Wyoming, and UTEP as schools you want to associate with.

Dick.

 

[KaneFan29]

They’d make more money I’m sure, especially with Gonzaga gone.

It doesn’t matter. They’re definitely not a shoe-in to join the MWC. They play in their all-religious affiliated conference that they founded and can now don’t have to worry about losing to Gonzaga.

They don’t need the money. Their endowment is almost the size of UTEP’s and they have about 1/10 the students that we do. They don’t want to play San Jose St, they would rather play USF and Santa Clara.

MWC should go after Grand Canyon first and weaken the WCC and then maybe they have a shot at SMC.

 

[KaneFan29]

Some will take this and think CUSA is a better place.

 

[nattybry]

Some will take this and think CUSA is a better place.

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Well 750,000 a year vs what will be 4-6 million a year says otherwise

 

[picks up]

Some will take this and think CUSA is a better place.

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They most likely can't afford exit fees and membership fees to buy in. They just bought into CUSA.

People are saying MWC is going to be paying out $3-7 million per school while CUSA is paying out $600k. No way they would prefer CUSA over MWC.

 

[KaneFan29]

They most likely can't afford exit fees and membership fees to buy in. They just bought into CUSA.

People are saying MWC is going to be paying out $3-7 million per school while CUSA is paying out $600k. No way they would prefer CUSA over MWC.

Exactly. It’s also another way of saying they can’t afford to go or that the MWC only expressed “interest” and did not offer.

 

[JCorona]

Well 750,000 a year vs what will be 4-6 million a year says otherwise

You really think MW losses its best teams, replaces them with UTEP and the payout will be the same? IMO maybe 2/3 million.

It didn’t take long to search google and see that everyone not named Boise State was only getting 3.5. I don’t even think we get that much.

 

[SisyphusMiner]

You really think MW losses its best teams, replaces them with UTEP and the payout will be the same? IMO maybe 2/3 million.

It didn’t take long to search google and see that everyone not named Boise State was only getting 3.5. I don’t even think we get that much.

So... only 2 or 3x what CUSA would pay instead of natty's 4-6x ? I'd take that raise anyway

 

[JCorona]

So... only 2 or 3x what CUSA would pay instead of natty's 4-6x ? I'd take that raise anyway

I’ll take the raise too but not the delusion.

 

[KaneFan29]

You really think MW losses its best teams, replaces them with UTEP and the payout will be the same? IMO maybe 2/3 million.

It didn’t take long to search google and see that everyone not named Boise State was only getting 3.5. I don’t even think we get that much.

It’s not that far fetched in today’s climate to believe the payout will be the same or better. Sports and news are the only two things that are propping up cable/satellite/streaming television. TNT just signed a 3 on 3 women’s basketball league and will be airing it on Mondays and Fridays and then on TruTV on Saturdays.

If that thing, which doesn’t have Caitlin Clark yet, is worthy of prime time television 3 nights a week, then the MWC is also valuable.

 

[Lil_Train]

You really think MW losses its best teams, replaces them with UTEP and the payout will be the same? IMO maybe 2/3 million.

It didn’t take long to search google and see that everyone not named Boise State was only getting 3.5. I don’t even think we get that much.

I was thinking the same thing actually. However, a while back (I think it was a guy from Albuquerque), stated that the new deal with the MWC would ensure a payout of at least $3.5M per team per year (even if that amount would need to be subsidized by league funds). If that is indeed the case, it was an obvious no brainer for UTEP to jump at the chance. I'll try to dig up that article.

 

[Miner_Tavo]

I think the article that quotes 6M states that MWC thinks they can get the same contract as before, but divided by 8 instead of 12 means the previous 4M per team becomes 6M per team.

 

[nattybry]

You really think MW losses its best teams, replaces them with UTEP and the payout will be the same? IMO maybe 2/3 million.

It didn’t take long to search google and see that everyone not named Boise State was only getting 3.5. I don’t even think we get that much.

It’s already been said that if they keep the number low it’ll be a bigger piece of a smaller pie. It’ll be at least 4 million per, Bank on it!

 

[Rot]

So... only 2 or 3x what CUSA would pay instead of natty's 4-6x ? I'd take that raise anyway

I’ll take the raise, better league, and old regional rivals any day. I don’t think I would get excited playing Delaware amd Kennesse St.

 

[KaneFan29]

I was thinking the same thing actually. However, a while back (I think it was a guy from Albuquerque), stated that the new deal with the MWC would ensure a payout of at least $3.5M per team per year (even if that amount would need to be subsidized by league funds). If that is indeed the case, it was an obvious no brainer for UTEP to jump at the chance. I'll try to dig up that article.

Yes, I saw that too, I know it applies for UNLV.

 

[KaneFan29]

I think the article that quotes 6M states that MWC thinks they can get the same contract as before, but divided by 8 instead of 12 means the previous 4M per team becomes 6M per team.

That’s just people hypothetically speaking though. The MWC most certainly isn’t staying at 8 teams anyway.

 

[JCorona]

I’ll take the raise, better league, and old regional rivals any day. I don’t think I would get excited playing Delaware amd Kennesse St.

Does SHSU feel that way?

 

[KaneFan29]

Does SHSU feel that way?

Who cares? They’re in a conference with FCS move ups and a better geographical fit for them.

 

[JCorona]

Who cares? They’re in a conference with FCS move ups and a better geographical fit for them.

Isn’t that what we’re talking about? SHSU saying not interested in the MW. You’re the one that posted the tweet that started the conversation.

 

[KaneFan29]

Isn’t that what we’re talking about? SHSU saying not interested in the MW. You’re the one that posted the tweet that started the conversation.

Right. Not sure why SHSU would feel the same as UTEP.

 

[JCorona]

Right. Not sure why SHSU would feel the same as UTEP.

Exactly, not sure why everyone wants to comment with how UTEP feels. For the reasons you and picks up mentioned is why SHSU is staying put.

 

[jdubb66]

Some will take this and think CUSA is a better place.

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Excited to make 5 mil a year less in tv revenue? I'm not a vet but sounds like horse shit.

 

[PickMyAxe915]

Good luck to SHSU. Glad UTEP could make the move.