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I agree...for the most part. I think what you said applies to fb and bb players, and a fortunate gymnast, however most college sports, the non-revenue sports, have largely remained college like.
I think one of the largest NIL deals went to a volleyball players. They were like 2nd. Oops she is in gymnastics and she ranks 4 th. I never heard of her.


 
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I think one of the largest NIL deals went to a volleyball players. They were like 2nd. Oops she is in gymnastics and she ranks 4 th. I never heard of her.


She was all over the headlines for a while.
 
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I hate this idea that athletes got nothing … it irritates me… they got scholarships, access to travel all over the country, they got the best training staff , meals and dorms paid for them they got to be on tv etc….. tell a ex college student with 60,000 in loans that they got nothing — I dare you!
 
I hate this idea that athletes got nothing … it irritates me… they got scholarships, access to travel all over the country, they got the best training staff , meals and dorms paid for them they got to be on tv etc….. tell a ex college student with 60,000 in loans that they got nothing — I dare you!
Yeah, but not one person is paying $20 to see you take a Chemistry final or talk about your assignments on the internet.
 
This has been an interesting discussion. The one thing that we can all agree on is that the current system needs to be fixed. When will this happen and who will fix it? At this point the NCAA isn't. The NCAA seems to have no power anymore.
 
Yeah, but not one person is paying $20 to see you take a Chemistry final or talk about your assignments on the internet.
No, but please look up how much money universities receive in research dollars. While the professors are the ones who apply for the research dollars, it's students who do the work. They are paid, but it's a very small amount. My son knew someone who quit his PhD program because he was tired of living in his car. For the millions of dollars students bring to universities, they aren't reimbursed properly at all. I guarantee that they would trade their paltry pay for a full ride.
 
No, but please look up how much money universities receive in research dollars. While the professors are the ones who apply for the research dollars, it's students who do the work. They are paid, but it's a very small amount. My son knew someone who quit his PhD program because he was tired of living in his car. For the millions of dollars students bring to universities, they aren't reimbursed properly at all. I guarantee that they would trade their paltry pay for a full ride.
Isn’t the purpose of higher education to earn a degree in a field of study? Isn’t that degree then used to obtain a job that compensates you for applying the knowledge and skills you learned and studied for to obtain that degree? When did being a college student itself become the full time job? That doesn’t make any sense.
 
Yeah, but not one person is paying $20 to see you take a Chemistry final or talk about your assignments on the internet.

If it was a hot chick taking the test in a swimsuit they would. Nice you just gave me another idea. I just need to find a hot chick who is studying Chemistry. 😁😁😁
 
I agree for the most part. Yes, their scholarship is a tremendous benefit that most of college students do not receive, but most of the football/basketball athletes choose not to really use this benefit.

I think they should be paid, and only because they’re bringing in significant revenue to their school. I do have an issue with the amount most of them are being paid. I think all players on the team should be equal and the amounts should be determined by the conference. Obviously an SEC player would “make” more than one in CUSA.

I would rather the athletes get something similar to a pension after they’re done playing. While long term or great players (Tom Brady, Adrian Peterson, Shaq, Jordan, Tim Hardaway) would forfeit their earnings so it can be given to “less fortunate” athletes.
I get that not every athlete takes full advantage of their scholarship, but that doesn't devalue the scholarship in my mind. Most of those kids will never even have a cup of coffee in the NFL or NBA. and most of those that do will need a career after their time in professional sports is over. A free education is an invaluable gift, and those that are smart enough to take advantage of it reap considerable rewards.
 
Isn’t the purpose of higher education to earn a degree in a field of study? Isn’t that degree then used to obtain a job that compensates you for applying the knowledge and skills you learned and studied for to obtain that degree? When did being a college student itself become the full time job? That doesn’t make any sense.
Have you never met a graduate student, or an undergrad involved in research? Between their studies and doing research there is no time for anything else, so yeah, while in college being a student is a full time job. And they don't get paid much for doing that research. Many do get a good job in their field of study afterwards, but that often comes with significant student debt. Oh, the university profits greatly from the research work they do while in college.
 
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He’s going the right thing to have a better shot at the NFL
I understand why he’s wanting to transfer, however I question your claim. It’s the big fish/small pond vs. small fish/big pond conundrum.

I honestly think his route to the NFL would be easier through UTEP, unless of course, he secures a starting spot and contributes significantly at OU…or wherever he ends up.

It is what it is and I can never fault a kid for making the choice they think is best for them.
 
I understand why he’s wanting to transfer, however I question your claim. It’s the big fish/small pond vs. small fish/big pond conundrum.

I honestly think his route to the NFL would be easier through UTEP, unless of course, he secures a starting spot and contributes significantly at OU…or wherever he ends up.

It is what it is and I can never fault a kid for making the choice they think is best for them.
That would be true however….

A. He could’ve left last year to a P4, and now is a Grad SR. and Bigger, Faster and more experienced. Therefore he can pick and choose where he wants to go.
B. He’s good enough and experienced enough to not be a small fish at a Bigger School.
C. At Utep either way the highest he’d go would be probably 3rd or 4th round. If he does well at let’s say Oklahoma his Draft status could jump all the way to late 1st, due to him playing a High Need Position at the next level.
 
I understand why he’s wanting to transfer, however I question your claim. It’s the big fish/small pond vs. small fish/big pond conundrum.

I honestly think his route to the NFL would be easier through UTEP, unless of course, he secures a starting spot and contributes significantly at OU…or wherever he ends up.

It is what it is and I can never fault a kid for making the choice they think is best for them.
I agree with you. We’ve seen other UTEP transfers like Deion Hankins and Tyrin Smith who didn’t do much once they left UTEP. Talented players playing at G5 schools like UTEP will get their chance to make it to the NFL. Just look at recent Miners who made it to the NFL like Aaron Jones, Will Hernandez, and Tyrice Knight, just to name a few.
 
I agree with you. We’ve seen other UTEP transfers like Deion Hankins and Tyrin Smith who didn’t do much once they left UTEP. Talented players playing at G5 schools like UTEP will get their chance to make it to the NFL. Just look at recent Miners who made it to the NFL like Aaron Jones, Will Hernandez, and Tyrice Knight, just to name a few.
Exactly.
 
Take someone like Cowing as an example. Would he have been drafted earlier or later if he had stayed at UTEP? His stats at Arizona were comparable, but maybe the appeal was more than just numbers. It could be about experiencing the highest level of college football. Winning three games in CUSA doesn’t exactly offer that.
 
That would be true however….

A. He could’ve left last year to a P4, and now is a Grad SR. and Bigger, Faster and more experienced. Therefore he can pick and choose where he wants to go.
B. He’s good enough and experienced enough to not be a small fish at a Bigger School.
C. At Utep either way the highest he’d go would be probably 3rd or 4th round. If he does well at let’s say Oklahoma his Draft status could jump all the way to late 1st, due to him playing a High Need Position at the next level.
Or he could be outperformed by an underclassman/blue chip at OU or other P5 and be projected as same draft spot or worse now with being a year older
 
Cowing probably improved his draft stock while getting paid at Arizona. Westmoreland could do the same, but hopefully he gets playing time?? To me he looked really small against Nebraska. I wonder if he could have the same impact in a bigger conference?
 
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