Maybe so. I don’t think they’re all that overrated though. But we’ll find out.
Mountain West Overrated as usual
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It IS bashing. Just like if the big 10 went 2-7 you would jumping on them too. Every publication I have read all season has spoke well about the mountain west. Looking at their schedules, each team has quality wins against name schools.
I don't want to join the mountain west just because it's easier travel and we are familiar with them. I want to join because they are better and more respected. period.
There would be no overrated talk if we were one of the 4 MW teams that lost in the first round of the tourney.
UAB did a good job clawing back into it. I'm not sure Houston can keep shooting as well as they did in the first half.
Yeah, I don’t think the Coogs will continue shooting at the clip they did in the first half, however, I think they’ll clamp down a little tighter defensively.
I’ll be surprised if UAB puts another 37 up this half.
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UAB definitely hanging tough, but Houston is a few notches better
Pretty much right on MF. I hope UH beats Illinois, who got lucky today.
I got lucky. I think the Coogs will beat Illinois, however the road will end against AZ.
You are ridiculous. The MWC deserved 4 schools in as they are the 6th best conference by RPI. CUSA is 12th. Last year the Big 10 had 9 teams in last year and only 1 went to the Sweet 16. They got 9 in again this year, and are subpar as usual. The MWC only got 2 in last year and deserved more.
Did they go 0-4, yes, but they did deserve to be there. You only follow CUSA because UTEP is in it. If UTEP was in the MWC, you would be applauding the 4 teams in the tournament, and if CUSA got 2, you would be crying that they got 1 too many.
The MWC is 10 times the conference CUSA is, and with all the teams leaving CUSA, anyway you spin it, is a trash conference. You put down NMSU every year for making the tournament in a weak WAC, and yet now they are coming to CUSA and you are using them to say the conference is so much better. What is the difference for them? They are making a lateral move in basketball to another 1 bid league that may not be much stronger than the WAC.
Would you rather have every single Big 12, ACC and Big 10 school in and only 1 mid major from each conference like Jay Bilas. You should be happy when a mid major conference gets multiple bids like the WCC and MWC. Stop hating on them because UTEP is stuck in a shitty conference that's only getting shittier.
LMAO STFU dude you're talking out of your backside!!! You got the wrong guy I don't put down NMSU every year lol Take your long winded whiney BS to someone else and know what the heck you're talking about hahaha. 1st of all no one said CUSA was better than the MWC. However have we out performed them in the NCAA as lower seeds over the last 10 years? The answer is yes, that's a fact not opinion. Would I rather be in the MWC, obviously it'd be a better situation of course. Will the new CUSA be better than we are now from top to bottom at least in basketball, Yes I think it will and NMSU will help with that. I always root for NMSU in the tourney, so I think you just made some BS up about me talking crap about them to sound cool lol. Stop attacking people on this board bro. You're way late on this thread anyway and you sound like you'd be better off on a Mountain West Board lol
I’m not being a smart ass at all, my friend, but do you still feel like UH is overrated? That defense! They put a hurtin’ on the B1G champs.
I still think the road ends for them with AZ, but it wouldn’t be the most surprising thing to see them win.
Really like that UH team. The defense is outstanding. If they are making shots, they can beat just about anyone.
How is CUSA getting better? Explain that to me? The RPI is going lower, and it will only be a one bid league. The Pac 12 who got 3 teams in the tournament consistently out performs the 9 Big 10 schools every single year. What is your point? Only 1 CUSA team deserved to be in based on the regular season. They don't look at preceding years. If they did, they would reduce the Big 10 schools in half since they underperform every year.
The last Big 10 championship was over 22 years ago (before that 32 years) , and yet they get 8 to 10 schools in every single year. So every other conference gets less teams and out performs the Big 10 every single year, and yet do you think that all those conferences are better than the Big 10?
CUSA is a crappy league that is losing every single of its good schools. MTSU and Western Kentucky will be gone next. NMSU is the only decent addition. It will be no better or worse than the WAC that NMSU just left. The only good thing that may come out of this is that UTEP may actually have a chance now that 80 percent of the schools are leaving. I had to respond to your idiotic post about the MWC that has no basis in fact as you think there is a conspiracy in the NET Rankings. Go on the MWC board so they can laugh their asses off.
I am no MWC fan, but making asinine statements of how trashy their conference is while CUSA is rotting in crap makes me laugh.
That is not surprising:
Look at Illinois resume:
Only non conference wins: Jackson State, Ark St, UT Rio Grande, and St. Francis.
Non Conference losses: Marquette, Cinn, Arizona.
They did not beat a decent out of conference opponent all year. I had them going out in this game, as last year it was exactly the same. An extremely weak non conference schedule.
Another Big 10 School:
Iowa:
Wins: Longwood, KC, NC Cent, Ala St, W Mich, Port St, SE Louisiana, W. Ill, Utah St, Virginia
Losses: Iowa St.
Is it really surprising that these teams go out early? I have only put up 2 Big 10 examples, I could go on.
I wish I could like this post 100times. Perfectly stated
Just? Just Sasser and Mark? I kid, however that is like losing Kennedy and Bieniemy (point wise). But yeah, just them.
If there is a knock on them, it’s that they struggle to score at times. That’s where they miss Sasser especially.
Right...I thought maybe there were others out. Amazing.
It's already been covered not just by me, not just by other posters, but also NCAA Basketball Analyst's. Look it up for yourself, I don't have time for your spewing of non sense. It's called addition by subtraction. The combined rankings of the teams coming in added to the teams remaining is ranked higher than the current CUSA. M. Tennessee and W. Kentucky are still a part of this league. You can't make up scenarios in your head, that you think will play out, like them leaving. You're basing your argument on what hasn't even happened then tying to say, "See I'm right" Get out of here with all that non sense lol I'm basing it off what we know today, not your crystal ball of who you think will leave next year! Liberty, NMSU, SHSU, Jacksonville St. have been much better than Rice, FAU, ODU and S. Miss over the last 10 years by far! We lose a consistent UAB, a N. Texas team that has only come on recently, and inconsistent Marshall team, UTSA (not good), Charlotte (not good) Base your argument on the information we have now, not what you think will happen bro. If those 2 teams leave as you say next, (based on no viable info at this point) than obviously that will change the discussion, but for now that's not the case, Is It!!!???
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Maybe we can get our final matchup with Fresno St and make a statement for CUSA.
The new CUSA could be better than current, but will it be enough to get more than one bid? Who have those 4 teams you listed beat in the non-conference? They have been beating up on bad teams in bad leagues. CUSA has better bottom teams than the WAC, SLC, Big South, ASun, and OVC. Those 4 teams won’t all be successful in CUSA. CUSA’s problem is non-conference wins. So, who did these teams beat?
It's okay, they get to beat up on just as weak teams in a bad league all over again. A lateral move by NMSU. The league's RPI will fall and there is no way this league will rise above 1 bid due to just what you said, no good non conference wins. 12th best RPI right now, and ranked below the Southern Conf. How outstanding. And that is with the current teams. But according to some, this conference is somehow going to be better. Laughable.
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If Senter is not looking at every single option to get out of this league, he should be fired on the spot. And we both know that Football is the money maker, not basketball. Look at this league in football. It was ranked 10th out of 11 conferences. The good news is that they will only drop 1 place.
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Yes, football driven realignment and that is the problem. UTEPs location is also a problem, so options are few and far between. The basketball league should be better, but it doesn’t matter. Football does and this will be a horrible football league. UTEP doesn’t belong in a league with schools from Virginia or rural Alabama towns. However, if you want to be in a FBS conference, that is our only choice.
This thread is pretty hilarious. Making fun of the MWC for going 0-4, while pretending they wouldn’t take a MWC invite in a half second.
MWC games were on FS1 almost every night of the week this year. CUSA is on Stadium and ESPN+ and will be lucky to be on any TV channel in 2023. Meaningless stat, but cool story!!!!!!
There you are. Was worried we were going to have to send out a search party for you
Football wise don’t be surprised to see the newest members to come in and competing toe to toe right away. The Coastal Carolina stated in an article a few months ago that the move up allowed him to get better recruits right away because D1 is their goal division to play in.
Basketball wise I still see CUSA as a one bid conference unless the teams start beating some big boys. This is not a game of horseshoes, close doesn’t count.
Basketball wise I still see CUSA as a one bid conference unless the teams start beating some big boys. This is not a game of horseshoes, close doesn’t count.
Let's continue this as the Shit 10 continues to crap out.
Wisconsin actually had a pretty good OOC schedule. Not as bad as the others and yet almost goes out in the first round and then gets beat in the second:
St Francis Brooklyn, Green Bay, Texas A&M, Houston, Saint Mary's, Georgia Tech, Marquette, Nicolls St, Illinois St. All wins, with a loss to Providence.
I just think the conference is cursed. My bracket never has more than 2 teams at the most from the Crap 10 making it into the Sweet 16. Last year 1 out of 9, and this year may be the same with Purdue yet to play. No one should be taking pot shots at the MWC when the Crap 10 is this dismal. Any conference that gets 9 invites should not consistently do this poor.
Wisconsin and Purdue are the 2 exceptions as they had good OOC schedules, and are the 2 I had going to the Sweet 16.
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It will be an interesting matchup as Fresno plays two 7 foot centers at the same time. We will have to shoot well from the 3 pt line to win that one.
Naw they're good. Guess you can't measure a team by their q1 wins. Looks like the NET system doesn't work.
UTEP will have their hands full with Southern Utah. This is no WI team they are playing.
S.Utah lost to Dixie State and N. Colorado. Their conference is ranked 22nd. SOS 241 around 145 RPI. UTEP should beat this team by over 10 if CUSA is so much better top to bottom. If Terry was the coach, we would most likely lose. I don't think Golding will be unprepared. Give the 4 points
Perfectly stated. NMSU, SHSU, Jacksonville St., and Liberty all had Zero chance of earning an at large bid this year because they beat nobody and just took advantage of playing in a crappier conference than CUSA. Rice, ODU, USM, and FAU would have better records if they played in those crappy conferences.
People can spin the addition by subtraction approach all day long, but the new CUSA is just going to be a crappy 1 bid league just like it is now. Adding NMSU, SHSU, Liberty, and Jacksonville is like polishing a turd. You can enhance the appearance, but it is still a turd.
In all honesty, it’s neither an upgrade or a downgrade. The difference between CUSA 3.0 and CUSA 4.0 is going to be negligible. A little lower in football and a tad higher in basketball. Not much is going to change…even perception wise. The difference will be negligible.
I agree.. I will add that for basketball, I think there only being 8 teams versus 14 to compete against, in theory, is a plus. It is still a one bid league, but less schools to compete against. In football, it will depend on the number of bowl tie ins that remain. Of course, probably the biggest thing that needs to be determined is the TV deal moving forward, when comparing 3.0 vs 4.0.
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