OT : ALL THINGS SOCCER (-) WC and EURO CUP 😜
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Well, Pepi is a young kid, like those 2. Why did those two choose Mexico if they don’t like playing young kids?
Because Pepi has the talent to start immediately for USMNT. The other two wouldn't start for either team.
Another thing I consider a big mistake by LMX is having two Tournaments (Apertura & Clausra) and now with this no decent thing that they put in place for 5 years doesn't do any good. But going back to having two tournaments just look what happens to the Champion of one tournament on the next tournament (always goes down). By having just one tournament you would have a more consistent team for a longer period of time. And to make it worse they came up with this repechaje thing giving an opportunity to the 9th, 10th, 11th and 12 places of playing the liguilla.
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Neither of them would see the starting lineup for the USMNT till at least the 2030 cycle if that. The positions they play are already full of players younger than 25 on the USMNT... They'd be good subs though
The main problem is FMF places making money over developing the league and national team. In the end Mexico is what it has always been, a top 15 team with a huge target on their back in concacaf. Everyone plays like their life is on the line against them. At the moment Mexico's talent isn't as good as in the past.
No room on the USMNT for them for another 8 years. They can't wait that long, those players have to make their move now... Someone posted about the Mexico winning a minor u-20 championship, while USMNT is winning WC qualifiers at the highest level of concacaf with U-20 players. There is no comparison
JCorona, and what's sucks the most is like you said, Mexico had betters teams in the past when they only had like one player in Europe vs now having around twelve that play in top leagues. Back then they use to say that the day when Mexico has at least six players in Europe that Mexico would go deep in the WC. Now Mexico has around twelve players in top european leagues and still can't reach the quarterfinals.
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Mexico and the US have benefited from the fact that they’re the big fish in a small pond. If they were part of UEFA or CONMEBOL they’d be in dogfights to qualify for the World Cup.
CONMEBOL they would be in a dogfight... UEFA, not so much. UEFA is highly overrated once you go past their top 6 teams and those guys qualify 13 teams, which is almost half the teams in the world cup.
If Mexico was in CONMEBOL right now, playing the way they're playing, they wouldn't qualify for the WC. They would be right there at the same level as Venezuela and Ecuador.
They are what they are. Qualify for the World Cup, get out of the group stage and die in the round of 16. Rinse and repeat. It’s hilarious how Mexico fans think they’re going to make a deep run every tournament.
If they're at the level of Ecuador then they would be safe. It's always going to be Brazil and Argentina at that top and the rest fighting for the 2 guarantee spots. Don't be fooled, everyone in CONCACAF would struggle to qualify if they were in Conmebol.
So true. Makes me think back to 2018 when Italy, Chile, USA and Netherlands missed. Obviously those teams didn't deserve to go, but it seemed odd. With the new changes pretty much every country with a decent team gets in. U.S. and Mex will be pretty much guaranteed spots. Now they just have to move forward in competition.
I agree. The US and Mexico have a hard time winning on the road vs the smaller countries in CONCACAF. Imagine if they had to go to Brazil, Argentina, or even going to La Paz, Bolivia and playing at 11,932 feet? That’s over 4,000 feet higher than Mexico City.
I wouldn't be surprise if Mexico ends up not qualifying for the WC just like the US didn't back in 2018. Because of the way Mexico is playing right now I don't think it deserves to go. As for South America the surprise seems to be Uruguay who has a big chance of missing the WC.
That's an overreaction. They played against two good teams in hostile environments. Four of the remaining six games are at home. If they lose to Jamaica in the next window then maybe we can start having that discussion.
It's not that they played against two good teams in hostile environments, it's how they're playing. El Tata doesn't have a clear idea of what he's doing. I've seen better mexican teams in the past. This one is starting to look like the one who almost missed the 2014 WC, it was a miracle that they qualified.
Likely? Probably not. I don’t think it’s as far fetched as it might seem though, either. Granted, Panama has the harder schedule down the stretch, however if they pull off an upset or two, and Mexico can’t quite put it together and finds itself sitting 4th in the group, you never know which South American, Asian or Oceanic team they could face. Stranger things have happened.
Yep. Things can turn quickly. January-March is a long ways away and the U.S. still has to play at Mexico, Canada and Costa Rica. Mexico goes to Jamaica and then they are basically at home til the end. They have already played Canada twice as well.
It's typical for fans and media to start thinking the sky is falling after two losses. Both USMNT and Canada played with their hearts to beat Mexico. They both had great home field advantage and better talent on their hands.
I'm not going to assume this will be Mexico's level of play going forward. Prior to this window they were first of the table with a comfortable goal differential. I have to see them lose to teams below them to start worrying about not qualifying.
I'm not going to assume this will be Mexico's level of play going forward. Prior to this window they were first of the table with a comfortable goal differential. I have to see them lose to teams below them to start worrying about not qualifying.
The best Mexican teams that I remember were the 1993 team that reached the Copa America finals, and the 1997-99 Teams. I remember that in 1997 with only Liga MX players, Mexico gave hell to Brazil in the Bolivia-Copa America, then they almost upset Germany in the France98 WC. Then they won the 1999 Confederations Cup by beating Brazil, that was a hell of a game with Ronaldinho on the field. The current team with 8 European based players in theory is supposed be far superior than those teams from the past, but it is completely the opposite. Something has to be very wrong.
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I hate the Mexican national .soccer team. They are still going to qualify and if you don't think so you are delusional. I would absolutely love to eat my words here
I don't hate the Mexican national team, I just think they don't deserve to qualify. But the ones who I hate are Televisa, TV Azteca and the LMX Club Owners (Specially Emilio Azcarraga) who are ultimately responsible for the overall poor achievements of Mexican soccer.
The Mexican media has always been known to overact to the team and so have their fan base. Remember when they won gold in the Olympics and thought they were going to win the world cup? They overreact on both ends of the spectrum
That’s why Guardado has never returned to Mexico. He said somewhere that the scrutiny from the media is too much.
Vela. That's arguably Mexico's best striker. Something Mexico desperately needs. If that wasn't bad enough, a number of Mexico players have received death threats after losses to USA and Canada. It won't be long until more and more players won't want to play for Mexico.
Or the politics that kept guys like Bofo or Cuauhtemoc off the team in 2006.
I know one of you guys knows, but what happened to Giovanni Dos Santos? Why did the wheels fall off of that guy?
Rumor is he likes to party more than he likes futbol. Such a wasted talent.
It can be a hard lifestyle to break free from. Some of these players are treated like gods. They have the money, women, and power.
I agree, that’s why when you look at what Ronaldo and Zlatan are doing at their age it’s amazing. They have defied time and have managed to take care of their bodies.
He can score the winning goal versus West Ham but can't score with the Mexican Selection: https://diario.mx/deportes/gol-de-raul-jimenez-da-triunfo-al-wolverhampton-20211120-1864677.html
My son was at the PSG game today. Saw Mbappe and Messi score. He said it was pretty awesome.
