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Probably hurt us. We are exporting too much as it is. We stop buying and oil companies would probably export even more. With many countries no longer buying from Russia, there are a lot more customers for US oil.
I accidentally saw this again. This totally supports what I was saying. The US exporting a buttload of oil, charging those countries top dollar equals their high profit margins.
How about this....triple the export tax to make them use more here? We MUST make it hurtful to sell elsewhere.
 
Everything I wrote was from my own research and independent thought. If it appeared left leaning, then that just means the left is less inept on the topic than the right. Neither side has our best interests in mind it seems. Making Oil and Gas political doesn’t help the common man and tax payer.

Think about who is crying about President Biden the most? It’s not the Oil and Gas industry. That speaks volumes. Also, check out the latest report about where US oil is being exported to. One of the reasons gas prices are high is because how much oil we export. We were told to do our part and export to Europe to help with the war. It’s hasn’t been going to Europe. It’s been going to Latin America. Huge US oil profits.

You think it’s silly that Trump fought tooth and nail against a $15 an hour minimum wage? Then why did he crash the US oil market three times? Who did Trump actually listen to by countless accounts? Not specialists or experts in their fields. He listened to bankers. Keep gasoline cheap and people don’t need $15 an hour.

Of course gas prices started to go up once Biden took office. We were in the middle of Trump’s 24 month deal with OPEC. That would be US Oil crash number three.

People continue to say that had Trump been re-elected he would have saved the Keystone XL. How? His own cherry-picked Supreme Court killed it. Better yet, do you know what kind of oil the Keystone XL was going to move? If you do, please explain how that would cure our current high gas prices.

President Biden hasn’t done us any favors and I’m not here to say he’s doing great. It’s just not correct to say he’s the reason gas prices are high. Donald Trump crippled US Oil and Gas three times. Then a global pandemic. Then a war. It’s supply and demand. Not a bite-less speech from a teleprompter.
 
Let’s have a civil conversation. Can either of you explain how current gas prices are President Biden’s fault. I’m game to be educated on the matter.
Been in the oil business 30 years and on his first day his executive orders help to kill production. He then spouts off numerous times about shutting down fossil fuels so companies are reluctant to invest. KEYSTONE KEYSTONE KEYSTONE. I could write a book on this topic. Told my friends his first day in office gas was going to 5 a gallon and that was without Ukraine. I could go on and on... Read my post #134 for other relevant info
 
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You think it’s silly that Trump fought tooth and nail against a $15 an hour minimum wage? Then why did he crash the US oil market three times? Who did Trump actually listen to by countless accounts? Not specialists or experts in their fields. He listened to bankers. Keep gasoline cheap and people don’t need $15 an hour.
No, I think it's silly to even think Trumps administration was fighting "tooth and nail" to keep gas prices low to keep minimum wage low. No connection. While I would agree minimum wage should increase, raising it almost double only increases inflation that much more, but gas has little effect.

Of course gas prices started to go up once Biden took office. We were in the middle of Trump’s 24 month deal with OPEC. That would be US Oil crash number three.
Incorrect. Prices were on a steady DECLINE up until election day. The very next day, prices headed north. Crash the oil market? How? our supply, demand, and prices were good for almost 4 years. Look, Biden is begging for OPEC to send more oil. Why isn't he making it better for our oil companies to use their oil here instead of shipping it elsewhere? We WERE more energy self sufficient under trump, like it or not.

I don't know if trump could have saved keystone, but I damn well know for sure he would have fought for keeping it, AND all those good paying jobs, instead of cheerleading the closure like biden has done.
 
Everything I wrote was from my own research and independent thought. If it appeared left leaning, then that just means the left is less inept on the topic than the right. Neither side has our best interests in mind it seems. Making Oil and Gas political doesn’t help the common man and tax payer.

Think about who is crying about President Biden the most? It’s not the Oil and Gas industry. That speaks volumes. Also, check out the latest report about where US oil is being exported to. One of the reasons gas prices are high is because how much oil we export. We were told to do our part and export to Europe to help with the war. It’s hasn’t been going to Europe. It’s been going to Latin America. Huge US oil profits.

You think it’s silly that Trump fought tooth and nail against a $15 an hour minimum wage? Then why did he crash the US oil market three times? Who did Trump actually listen to by countless accounts? Not specialists or experts in their fields. He listened to bankers. Keep gasoline cheap and people don’t need $15 an hour.

Of course gas prices started to go up once Biden took office. We were in the middle of Trump’s 24 month deal with OPEC. That would be US Oil crash number three.

People continue to say that had Trump been re-elected he would have saved the Keystone XL. How? His own cherry-picked Supreme Court killed it. Better yet, do you know what kind of oil the Keystone XL was going to move? If you do, please explain how that would cure our current high gas prices.

President Biden hasn’t done us any favors and I’m not here to say he’s doing great. It’s just not correct to say he’s the reason gas prices are high. Donald Trump crippled US Oil and Gas three times. Then a global pandemic. Then a war. It’s supply and demand. Not a bite-less speech from a teleprompter.
Crashing the oil markets? He opened up production opportunities so our supply outpaced our demand. That's why prices were low. I don't like Trump but he knew low inflation and economic growth are built around an inexpensive source of energy. And he was correct. If Government would work with industry we could have inexpensive energy and be energy independent. Personal opinion, the sweet spot for oil for the consumer and energy companies is between $50 and $60 a barrel. Energy Companies stay profitable and can replenish the supply and consumers would have gas between $2.25 and $2.50. If anyone should love Biden it's me. These high prices mean job security, But what's good for me is horrible for the country. Bottom line, we could be energy independent with low prices, our Government chooses us not to be. Now go buy your Tesla
 
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The US Oil market crashes of 2018 and 2019 killed production. The same crashes that killed 200 US companies and 4 refineries. Trump’s 24 month agreement with OPEC killed production.

US Oil companies are investing in Green Energy. Nobody in the US Oil industry is complaining about Biden. The major complaints from US Oil is their shareholders and bottom lines. The worst Biden has done is try to make US Oil a political bad guy. The damage was done before any of his bite-less orders came through.

The highest price during the Trump administration was $2.96 in May 2018, and its lowest was around $1.77 in April 2020, when much of the country was locked down due to COVID. When Trump left office on Jan. 20, 2021, the average price was around $2.39 a gallon. I guess this is where we say gas prices went up because of Biden’s mean tweets about the Oil and Gas industry.

US Oil does not manufacture a finished product. We have never been energy or oil independent. We literally have to import hard oils to create the fuels America uses.

There are consequences to making foreign deals, crashing the US Oil market, and lowering gas prices. That would be tens of thousands of US Oil jobs, 200 US Oil companies, and 4 US refineries. Where is Trump’s “I did that!” sticker? Yet we are to speculate that Trump would fight for good paying Keystone XL jobs.

The US was producing 11.185 million barrels of crude oil per day in 2021, compared with an average of 11.283 million barrels per day in 2020. What has Biden’s executive orders done exactly?
 
A decline from $5.60 to $5 is not a decline. When it's back under $3 now that is a decline. I knew that would happen. Gas will go down to like $4.50 and the White House will say gas prices are down. 😠😠😠
Gas is under 4.20 in the Houston area.
 
I’m pretty sure I said Biden hasn’t done us any favors. He’s not why gas is expensive right now. He didn’t crash the US Oil market twice though. He didn’t make a horrible 24 month deal with OPEC. He didn’t cherry pick a Supreme Court that would kill the Keystone XL. He didn’t mishandle the Pandemic. He didn’t start a war in Russia. He’s not the reason US Oil is exporting 25% of its production. But yeah, gas is $4.89 because of blocked leases
 
I’m pretty sure I said Biden hasn’t done us any favors. He’s not why gas is expensive right now. He didn’t crash the US Oil market twice though. He didn’t make a horrible 24 month deal with OPEC. He didn’t cherry pick a Supreme Court that would kill the Keystone XL. He didn’t mishandle the Pandemic. He didn’t start a war in Russia. He’s not the reason US Oil is exporting 25% of its production. But yeah, gas is $4.89 because of blocked leases
"Biden admin to block new offshore drilling in Atlantic and Pacific but limited lease sales in Gulf of Mexico in a new 5-year plan. Dept of Interior proposal is consistent with transition to "clean energy economy.""

No comment on this. eh? I guess it's just a coincidence, huh? No agenda that you can see?

MinerDave apparently works in the oil industry. He also states there was no crash of the US oil market. Gas prices have been the highest during Obama's terms, and now biden. Trump had prices lower during his entire 4 years. Funny that gas prices increased the DAY AFTER THE ELECTION. How can you sit there and say he crashed the oil market and made a horrible deal with OPEC? If that WAS true, wouldn't prices gone up? Sorry, that's my common sense talking. Naturally, you will come back with something to the effect of "it was going to happen no matter who is in office" I will say I disagree before you type it.
Oil companies are exporting more in order to make money. That IS on biden and his policies.
Are you implying trump had something to do with the ukranian war? Please!
To imply Trump mishandled the pandemic is ludacris. He top advisor was fauci....a democrat. Who, btw flip flopped every day and never followed his own guidance. This was an unknown and you blame trump? No one in the entire world could figure it out, but trump mishandled it? Trump didn't shut down the economy and kill businesses. Democrat states did. Oh hey, remember while running for president, biden flat out said "I have a plan to stop covid. We will get it done." While trump worked with companies to fast track the vaccine. Yeah, its trumps fault. You probably still wear a mask too.
 
There is obviously a plan to move to clean energy. What comment is needed? I’ve been consistent in my posts. I have no need or urge to defend President Biden. His handling of high gas price is doing us no favors. He is just not the reason gas prices are high.

Not one US Oil Market crash under Trump? Then why did 200 US oil companies and 4 refineries close?

Did you really ask “If that WAS true, wouldn't prices gone up?” What has this thread about?

Gas was $1.77 in April 2020. Trump left office on Jan. 20, 2021 and gas was $2.39 a gallon. So yes, gas prices were already going up.

What Joe Biden policy forced US Oil to export more? Was it an executive order? What was it?


Nobody said Trump started a war. I listed actual reasons that caused gas prices to go up. The war in Russia is one of them. The Pandemic has not been handled well - to date. Interesting that by default you needed to defend Trump and attack democrats.

Of course I still wear a mask. There are anti-Fauci lunatics out there.
 
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Great idea, but stupid solution. If only everybody would stop being so greedy and help others. If only we were a socialist country and capitalism were illegal.

If he is going to ask this of gas stations then he better try to address ALL the other businesses who constantly rape us all day (Healthcare, Insurance companies, Pharmaceuticals, Auto dealers, etc.). Oh and don't forget about Politicians, handouts and pork barreling too Joe.
 
There is obviously a plan to move to clean energy. What comment is needed? I’ve been consistent in my posts. I have no need or urge to defend President Biden. His handling of high gas price is doing us no favors. He is just not the reason gas prices are high.

Not one US Oil Market crash under Trump? Then why did 200 US oil companies and 4 refineries close?

Did you really ask “If that WAS true, wouldn't prices gone up?” What has this thread about?

Gas was $1.77 in April 2020. Trump left office on Jan. 20, 2021 and gas was $2.39 a gallon. So yes, gas prices were already going up.

What Joe Biden policy forced US Oil to export more? Was it an executive order? What was it?


Nobody said Trump started a war. I listed actual reasons that caused gas prices to go up. The war in Russia is one of them. The Pandemic has not been handled well - to date. Interesting that by default you needed to defend Trump and attack democrats.

Of course I still wear a mask. There are anti-Fauci lunatics out there.
I am not defending trump, per se. I believe he did a shitload better job than the fake president we have. Do NOT misunderstand me as I have firmly stated this a bazillion times. Trump is an idiot when he speaks. I do NOT want him to run again. Trump hurt your feelings....I get it. But he seriously wanted America first. ALL economic numbers show it. Biden is a puppet and has zero clue about anything. (see his instruction card on what to say and where to sit) His people have totally screwed our country.

To this day, there is zero scientific evidence that our wear masks did a damn thing to prevent any spread. Look worldwide and the whole world wore a mask yet it went nuts. Fauci didn't/doesn't know any more than any other "expert". He is an over paid quack. Anyone still wearing a mask is an idiot. FWIW.....my best friend works as a contractor for White sands. They follow every stupid rule the CDC and fauci puts out. He is VERY sick right now. 2 years in....NO ONE HAS A EFFING CLUE!. Wear your mask dude. the world is now laughing at you....


I am done here. It's worthless talking logic and common sense to sheep. Horse is dead and the turtle is out!
 
But he seriously wanted America first.

No, Trump has always placed Trump first. Trump does not give one god damn about America or any of us.

To this day, there is zero scientific evidence that our wear masks did a damn thing to prevent any spread. ... Fauci didn't/doesn't know any more than any other "expert". He is an over paid quack. Anyone still wearing a mask is an idiot.

The scientific evidence is out there and has been out there for a very long time. That YOU choose to disbelieve does not mean it does not exist. I trust Dr. Fauci way more than I trust you or "Dr." Birx or anyone else Trump had licking his ass and peddling his bullshit.

It's worthless talking logic and common sense to sheep.

Yes, it is worthless talking to people like you who continually claim that things are "fake" simply because YOU choose to disbelief the facts, the truth, the real truth not KellyAnne's "alternative" facts or truth.

Yet here I am, again responding to you simply to state truth and facts to counter your crap.
 
Okay Biden supporters defend this.
Biden supporter here.

First off, some info….

“Brent Crude vs. West Texas Intermediate: An Overview
The major difference between the crude oils Brent Crude and West Texas Intermediate is that Brent Crude originates from oil fields in the North Sea between the Shetland Islands and Norway, while West Texas Intermediate is sourced from U.S. oil fields. Both Brent Crude and West Texas Intermediate are light and sweet, making them ideal for refining into gasoline.”- [Source] Investopedia.com

“…Although the U.S. does not import much oil from Russia, oil is traded on the global market and changes affect prices all over the world. But the price of gas is also linked to the cost of crude oil, from which it's refined. It is estimated that every $10 increase in the cost of a barrel of crude adds almost 25 cents to each gallon of gas.”[Source]-Newsweek.com

“…Citigroup analysts believe oil prices could fall to as low as $65 per barrel by the end of this year, should a global recession occur, and drop to $45 per barrel by the end of 2023.”-[Source]-https://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_prices_being_yanked_back_and_forth-08-jul-2022-169592-article/

There is not a f’en thing he can do. It’s trading above $100 and while stability is here, summer demand is high here in the states…wow’zers! But war causes jitters on international markets. Putin plans to disrupt the market. He got away with 8 years ago and became very emboldened by a few meaninglessness sanctions.

Back to Biden. What is there to say? Even Dem caucus is not liking his weak speak. He messed up by not taking action on the looming economic forecast when he took office. Despite his hand he was dealt the feds should’ve raised rates (just a little) sooner, but he didn’t and that’s why he owns it.
 
Biden supporter here.

First off, some info….

“Brent Crude vs. West Texas Intermediate: An Overview
The major difference between the crude oils Brent Crude and West Texas Intermediate is that Brent Crude originates from oil fields in the North Sea between the Shetland Islands and Norway, while West Texas Intermediate is sourced from U.S. oil fields. Both Brent Crude and West Texas Intermediate are light and sweet, making them ideal for refining into gasoline.”- [Source] Investopedia.com

“…Although the U.S. does not import much oil from Russia, oil is traded on the global market and changes affect prices all over the world. But the price of gas is also linked to the cost of crude oil, from which it's refined. It is estimated that every $10 increase in the cost of a barrel of crude adds almost 25 cents to each gallon of gas.”[Source]-Newsweek.com

“…Citigroup analysts believe oil prices could fall to as low as $65 per barrel by the end of this year, should a global recession occur, and drop to $45 per barrel by the end of 2023.”-[Source]-https://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_prices_being_yanked_back_and_forth-08-jul-2022-169592-article/

There is not a f’en thing he can do. It’s trading above $100 and while stability is here, summer demand is high here in the states…wow’zers! But war causes jitters on international markets. Putin plans to disrupt the market. He got away with 8 years ago and became very emboldened by a few meaninglessness sanctions.

Back to Biden. What is there to say? Even Dem caucus is not liking his weak speak. He messed up by not taking action on the looming economic forecast when he took office. Despite his hand he was dealt the feds should’ve raised rates (just a little) sooner, but he didn’t and that’s why he owns it.
Lets be honest, he hasn't "owned" any of it. He defects and finger points it all at someone else...everyone else.
 
Price of a gallon in Albuquerque is $4.18. We are 35 or 40 cents higher. We're getting gouged.
 
Before we fake outrage and add another track to the GOP Greatest Hits… Oil from the Strategic Reserve was also sold to China during the Trump administration. I’m not here to say it’s good or bad but it happened during both administrations.
 
Lucky we have a pro fossil fuels guy like Joe in office. Can you imagine the price if we had someone who hates fossil fuels?
 
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Before we fake outrage and add another track to the GOP Greatest Hits… Oil from the Strategic Reserve was also sold to China during the Trump administration. I’m not here to say it’s good or bad but it happened during both administrations.
I agree. Gas under Trump $1.50 under Biden $4.50.
 
I agree. Gas under Trump $1.50 under Biden $4.50.
Let’s say for the sake of argument, that Biden is able to dictate gas prices without other factors. Why would a president want to have his country paying $3 more per gallon? Why would he think that’s a good idea or would be popular?

Let’s hear those good, logical answers you surely have
 
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Let’s say for the sake of argument, that Biden is able to dictate gas prices without other factors. Why would a president want to have his country paying $3 more per gallon? Why would he think that’s a good idea or would be popular?

Let’s hear those good, logical answers you surely have
Wonderful strategy to appease his climate base. I applaud his strategy lets reduce supply and nothing will happen. He's above normal way of thinking
 
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