why don’t we raise money from the community at large to pay money to the coaches if the university can’t? What would prohibit us from doing that? I am sure a lot of people would put money for this.... I know Stull never asked for this, but why couldn’t it be done?
Sick and tired of we can’t pay money to coaches
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Somebody was saying that we HAD the money, and if I remember correctly was insinuating that some of the big money donors would pony up the $$$. The post was kind of cryptic, like they had inside info or something. It was about a month ago. Forgot who posted it. Anyone else remember this?
USA Today keeps a database on College Budgets and Coaches salaries. And when you compare budgets and salaries, a lot of schools that have similar budgets pay more. Even schools with lesser budgets pay more. However, our pay for assistant coaches is very competitive or better than schools with like budgets.
But as far as basketball, UTEP's budget is the highest in conference USA.
But as far as basketball, UTEP's budget is the highest in conference USA.
Found this article about UTEP salaries. Its a little old though (2015). Keitha Adams was the highest paid womens coach in CUSA. Kugler's salary was low by CUSA standards but average midmajor at over 500,000. Floyd's Salary was at least 600,000.
Both their salaries include 2 Country Club Memberships and 2 Vehicles of their choice.
Both their salaries include 2 Country Club Memberships and 2 Vehicles of their choice.
As far as i know coaches ate free at the top mexican places. Country clubs and cars...oooooooo. cmon pay the damn head football coach. Damn passes would come free regardless. What country club is making the head coach pay. In El Paso they live and eat well. At major schools they get police escort everywhere they go. Our incentives suck. Pony up with money to a coach that deserves it
Salaries these days tend to come from boosters and shoe contracts. Even Nick Saban only earns $250,000 from the university (see link below). UTEP's problems start with the lack of a good corporate outreach and development office. My brother's wife is at another university in Texas and at some point looked into possibly coming to UTEP. She would have had to have taken an almost 60% cut in salary to come to UTEP. The department also sounds like it was a mess. We live in the corporate age, politically and economically. They have the money. The lack of big corporations in El Paso really hurt fundraising. Maybe the Hunts, Fosters, De la Vegas of the world need to open their wallets a little more, especially since they get big tax breaks from the city in the form of under-appraising their properties or granting them tax incentives.
If UTEP isn't going to do it, then someone in the community needs to establish a 501c3 and raise money for the athletics department. I know the El Dorados in the 90's were disbanded after the probation, but what boosters groups are there now?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/monteb...son-and-he-is-worth-every-penny/#20e87b46403e
If UTEP isn't going to do it, then someone in the community needs to establish a 501c3 and raise money for the athletics department. I know the El Dorados in the 90's were disbanded after the probation, but what boosters groups are there now?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/monteb...son-and-he-is-worth-every-penny/#20e87b46403e
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UTEP has an athletic budget of about 32 million and we pay our head coach half a million. UTSA has a budget of about 27 million and they pay their football coach 1.1 million.
Honestly $0 because I've spent $1,000's over the past number of ears. But I give you props that you would donate that much!
I've been going to games for years, bought season tickets, etc. I don't expect you to believe me, but I do.
I'm a UTEP graduate and have been going to UTEP games for over 20 years. If you don't want to believe me then that's your choice.
Oh my bad. I thought YOU were the one that demanded proof for everything. I guess it's different when it's you.
Sorry, I didn't get the memo
Sorry, I didn't get the memo
I ask for proof when you can prove something.
Obviously I can't prove that I have been going to games for over 20 years.
That has NEVER stopped you from demanding proof. You can't even prove you went to one game, much less 20 years. Therefore, you must stop claiming it to be fact.
If I scan and post my ticket from yesterday's game will that make you happy?
It is a fact that I have been going to games for over 20 years, but again if you chose not to believe it then that's fine.
Like I said before I only ask for proof if you can actually prove something like with a news article, etc.
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Bad news regarding Houston from JMU. Chanson from Kyyotes Den is posting UTEP is not willing to pay him what he is asking. Darn shame. I think he is the best coaching prospect for football. I hope his sources are wrong but if true, Natalicio and her third world approach to athletics strikes again.
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Stull, Kugs and Floyd leaving may just be a teaser...until Grandma decides to leave too.
We will find a better coach than Mike Houston for less money. We are the best at it and that’s why no other program can match our 0-12 record.
We should be able to easily pay 600k with incentives for wins, attendance, appearances, draft picks, chamionships, bowl games, etc. If he wants more then reduce his assumed contract from 5 to 4 years or negotiate a reduction to the buyout. That's enough time to see a change in trajectory. If he is so confident that he wants big money (with NO div 1 experience) then this shouldn't be a problem.
Also, again, charge each student an athletic tuition fee of $100 each semester. With 25,000 students that is 5 million a year that can be mandated for coaches' pay or other important aspects of the dept . Its a simple solution to the supposed lack of donations.
Also, again, charge each student an athletic tuition fee of $100 each semester. With 25,000 students that is 5 million a year that can be mandated for coaches' pay or other important aspects of the dept . Its a simple solution to the supposed lack of donations.
I agree with you charge a fee to students. One my sons attended Stanford and the other Notre Dame and although the tuition was expensive already those schools charged these fees but you should see how money brings more many to those schools. If you want a good product, unfortunately you have to pay for it. Nobody wants to pay more but this is the only way to get what you want or need to succeed. Money in essence brings money. My two cents worth.
We could afford to pay a football coach 1.5 million a year right now. The reason we dont is it doesn't play into Natalicio's narrative.
His assistants also make $715,000 a year. So Houston($375k) and his Staff($715k) are currently making a combined $1,090,000/year at JMU.
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/jmu-increases-football-staff-salaries
I wonder what UTEP's total offer would be?
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/jmu-increases-football-staff-salaries
I wonder what UTEP's total offer would be?
As I mentioned above and no one seemed to read. Most salaries come from outside the university . If UTEP can't afford to pay its coaches more, its because its alumni and boosters aren't doing enough fundraising and UTEP doesn't have any lucrative contracts with shoe companies. It has little to do with Natalicio, who has done an incredible job on the academic side of things and has expanded the size of the campus and created numerous higher level graduate programs. things don't begin and end with sports.
Every big college football program nowadays has a sugar-daddy that is kicking in big money. This is the state of college football in 2017. If you don't have a big corporate donor, you starve. http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/college-football-boosters-top-25/
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I respect Dr. N but geez it's time to retire. Pay the man! Amazing the logic that goes with such smart people. We should email her to open up the check book
Those schools and others also charge fees for football games because they can. There is demand and students are willing. There is no demand here at UTEP. If you can't get students to attend for "free", you have no chance in hell of getting them to pay you to attend.
College students are already acquiring tons of debt for school. Saying we're just going to pass it to them is dumb and irresponsible. The type of students attending UTEP are likely more middle/lower class than the ones attending Notre Dame and Stanford.
If you're a student who doesn't give a crap about sports are you willing to shell out an extra $1600 to your college degree for coaches salaries? Ridiculous. UTEP needs to hit up it's donors/alumni/fans for money. Not their current students.
Athletics are part of the college experience (even for a big commuter school like UTEP). Maybe some or most students wouldn't want to give money because 1) athletics suck or 2) they don't have the money, but its a priveledge to be in college. Its cost money. They should hit up donors, alumni and fans but a small athletic fee to students is very common and in UTEP's case it would be very helpful.
Actually, something paid for is more valued than something free.
The argument that El Pasoans are too poor is tired, and is holding us back.
The students HAVE to be part of the turnaround here.
The tickets aren't technically "free" because you are paying for them with your student fees.
