Then we have different definitions of leaving it behind better. He took over a program that went 21-17 in 3 years under Levine. And left with a 22-4 record after 2 years.
Question for you Kane/no wins how many years would you give your beloved NMSU
Ah good one!! How many years would I give them for what? Please type complete sentences in the future.
Bro I hear you but it’s year one. Look at the recruiting class he has coming in next year. We are ending the season on a high note and have a high energy coach. Things are looking up
Kill won a bowl game in year 1 and made the cusa championship game in year 2. I would say something similar for UTEP.
If they don’t get embarrassed and UT had to play their starters in the 2nd half, along with a win over NMSU; I would give some credence towards “things are looking up”.
If he finishes 3-9 this year and then 4-8 in 2025, you’re running him back to kick off the MWC era in 2026?
All we can offer right now is patience. Next year, if we don’t make it to a bowl game, there won’t be room for any more excuses. UNM played three “money games,” the #2 ranked FCS team, and a full Mountain West conference schedule. They’re now just one win away from being bowl eligible. I can’t even begin to imagine what our record would look like with that schedule.
Someone like Matt Wells. Five out of six seasons went bowling at Utah State. Failed at P5. Back at g5 to redeem himself. Someone that has experience at this level of football and has been successful.
Yes.
It takes at least two years to implement a college defense according to college coaches. The linebacking corp has become so specialized in itself as compared to say, running backs. Mike, Sam, hybrid secondary/linebacker position for the d coordinators specialized defense. In the offense, we can plainly see the qb tell the rb which side to be be on; like Coach Kugler once said to the media, everything starts with the center then you work outwards. Simple gaps (alphabetical or numerical) everyone is assigned and you plow forward; with Kugler, literally, as he demanded power over design. On defense the linebacker has to tell everyone....everyone, how where to line up often during games after a quick glance of offensive set (the lb has to make split second decisions); hence, why you see him waving his fingers at db's to taps on the fanny on D linemen to shift and this happens constantly and pray no one blows an assignment. "Practice, practice, practice" as Madden would say (he felt players spent to much time with weight lifting rather than honing their skills). It takes two to three years to cement.
Continuity? Yeah, worked out so well for the Price, Kugler, Dimel, Floyd, and Golding hires. Great.
People like you like to claim I am not a UTEP fan, but you don’t even know how long Mike Price coached here. One can argue he’s the “greatest ever” here. He coached here for 9 seasons and that’s not even counting the half year when he took over for Kugler.
That's like lightening in a bottle. I can't imagine you're of the opinion that we give a coach one year and if he doesn't reach that pinnacle that Kill reached, we fire him?
He’s gonna get paid out by FAU and hired by another school as an OC. Give me some of that karma. 99% of working adults will take that karma.
Of course not. However, they demonstrated a successful blueprint for winning in our region, just as we did when we hired Price. UNM has now followed a similar path. Other approaches simply haven’t worked for any of us.
I don’t want to root for the lobos or nmsu. I want us to experience winning like they did or are doing. Simple as that. Is that too much to ask for?
I don’t live in EP anymore, so I’m not able to attend every game. However, when I did live there, I sat through countless 2-10 seasons, and I would still do so if I were local. Yes, I support the 915 NIL movement and have backed various fundraising initiatives led by Senter.
Remember when many people on this board predicted that Walden would turn things around by year 2 or 3 and then move on to a Power 5 job? I’d take that scenario any day over the continuity of struggling just to stay out of last place.
UL-Monroe, UNM, and NMSU can have 1st year coaches win 5 games or more, but not UTEP. Too much to ask. Best fans, worst results.
