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UTEP at Liberty

It was a great win regardless of how we look at anything else. Tough win on the road, and a step in the right direction especially after the terrible game with NMSU.

We just don't know what we get out of this team. Do they have the talent to win the CUSA tournament, and just at times don't play to that potential? Is it bad coaching at times? I don't know how to pin point it.

Let's just hope they continue this kind of play, because they have a tendency to play down to their competition as well. I am hoping that this is a turning point, and that they win the games they are supposed to. I can live with that.

Haskins always said you have to win at home and split on the road. In this case they need to beat FIU because Liberty was the tough one on the road. Kudos to a great win.
 
Oh yeah ? Good call there
I am glad that I am wrong. But you have to admit, lately this has not been the case. Like I said earlier, it is the long term not the short term. The Miners are not a good bet. Now let's hope that changes, but I am still not confident in betting on them until they can put a string of games together and truly make me believe that they have changed.

I have told you, I would love for this to change, but one bets with his mind not his heart. I am the same as you and hope that both of these can be united one day as we turn the corner.
 
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Golding managed to wrangle the team and not let it go off the rails. I am surprised and glad to be wrong on my prediction. Let's keep it going, one game at a time.
Yup. Glad to eat me words.

ICYMI, a lot of mid major down to the wire action last night as analysts and content creators were all over it, including UTEP v Liberty. Good to see mids getting all the love last night for once.
 
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BTW, listening to the post game show on ESPN600, one stat they mentioned stood out (not confirmed), UTEP in the paint layups, dunks, etc.., was fifty percent. So half of their easy buckets were missed. They pointed to missed dunks by UTEP. (I missed the game for prior commitments so I didn't see them).

Ouch!!

Heard this hilarious doozy last night.

 
I am glad that I am wrong. But you have to admit, lately this has not been the case. Like I said earlier, it is the long term not the short term. The Miners are not a good bet. Now let's hope that changes, but I am still not confident in betting on them until they can put a string of games together and truly make me believe that they have changed.

I have told you, I would love for this to change, but one bets with his mind not his heart. I am the same as you and hope that both of these can be united one day as we turn the corner.
No I don’t have to admit that. We are 13-4 this season. I get the sense you have not watched this team play outside of the NMSU game
 
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No I don’t have to admit that. We are 13-4 this season. I get the sense you have not watched this team play outside of the NMSU game
Yes, I have watched the Utah Valley State and San Jose State games among many others. Seems that you conveniently keep forgetting those. Did you bet on the Miners in those?

Liberty is the best opponent they have beaten with a 76 Quad ranking. You are acting like the Miners are giant killers. They have a 136 Quad Ranking. How is that going to hold up in the MWC?

Not to rain on your parade, but 1 win is not going to make the season. You act like you would be happy if they win 20 games but don't win the CUSA tournament. To me, it is tournament or bust.

It seems like we have different expectations, as your satisfaction is a lot lower than mine. Sorry but I just can't settle for mediocrity anymore.
 
Yes, I have watched the Utah Valley State and San Jose State games among many others. Seems that you conveniently keep forgetting those. Did you bet on the Miners in those?

Liberty is the best opponent they have beaten with a 76 Quad ranking. You are acting like the Miners are giant killers. They have a 136 Quad Ranking. How is that going to hold up in the MWC?

Not to rain on your parade, but 1 win is not going to make the season. You act like you would be happy if they win 20 games but don't win the CUSA tournament. To me, it is tournament or bust.

It seems like we have different expectations, as your satisfaction is a lot lower than mine. Sorry but I just can't settle for mediocrity anymore.
Your troll logic is full of holes. You "can't settle for mediocrity", and yet your mediocre posts populate MinerDigs, year after year. Logic tells us you should move on and stop your make-believe suffering. Maybe take up a nice hobby...like knitting.
 
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There are TWO solid trolls. Kane and UTEP1966. They are polar opposites, but probably the same person. Corona is just trying to annoy people, but he is a nice guy in person.

I am hard core UTEP. I don't accept mediocrity, but I don't ONLY shit on them because they have sucked since 1992 Kane. I WANT and HOPE they do well in every sport. I believe Senter should be gone. But I also cheer on success like beating the best team in our current league on the road. I wanted Golding fired after NMSU, but I applaud him for getting the kids to perform the next game.

If you are ONLY rah rah or debbie downer, you are a troll. If you feel the need to reply to every single post, you are a troll.

But whatever....
 
Your troll logic is full of holes. You "can't settle for mediocrity", and yet your mediocre posts populate MinerDigs, year after year. Logic tells us you should move on and stop your make-believe suffering. Maybe take up a nice hobby...like knitting.
Hey, they let you out of your safe space. I really think you should take your own advice with some of the random comments and attacks that you make on here. The issue you have is that you live in a bubble where you can't take any criticism of the Miners and attack the poster. Your bigger issue is that you never offer a solution to any issue with the Miners, as you take on the approach that attacking the poster instead of his criticism and give an issue why he is wrong, is beyond your comprehension.

I already knew what response you would give because it is the same one to everyone: Leave if you can't accept everything about the team and never criticise them. Maybe it is you that needs to find another place because you are triggered by everything and anything that affects your bubble.

How about offer something of substance than "If you don't like it leave". It is you that are the minority on here as other actually care about the future of Miner athletics. You are stuck in a loop.

I have to laugh because you said all you could think about at the Miner game was how the people on the board were going to comment on a 30 point loss the NMSU, rather that the actual NMSU loss and what is wrong with the team. Maybe it is you that needs knitting because you are so easily triggered by elections, Miner message boards, and one can only wonder what else.

Mark my words, I will get the automated attack and response with no real substance on the actual Miner issues. Maybe you should read the response by UTEPfan1966 above because it is filled with logic and a good balance. You can take his advice.
 
There are TWO solid trolls. Kane and UTEP1966. They are polar opposites, but probably the same person. Corona is just trying to annoy people, but he is a nice guy in person.

I am hard core UTEP. I don't accept mediocrity, but I don't ONLY shit on them because they have sucked since 1992 Kane. I WANT and HOPE they do well in every sport. I believe Senter should be gone. But I also cheer on success like beating the best team in our current league on the road. I wanted Golding fired after NMSU, but I applaud him for getting the kids to perform the next game.

If you are ONLY rah rah or debbie downer, you are a troll. If you feel the need to reply to every single post, you are a troll.

But whatever....
I do get trolly at times, but I am not utep1966.

Liberty isn’t the best team in our league, wtf?!? They’re 2-3 in CUSA lol.

I have already stated multiple times, winning regular season games, especially at home, against worse teams isn’t anything I celebrate. FIU is 7-11 and straight garbage. UTEP is supposed to beat teams like that. Bronzeing makes 800k, Jeremy Ballard makes 450k and is lucky to get 1,000 in the stands.

UTEP should absolutely beat FIU 97 times out of 100. They are trash. I don’t celebrate wins over trash.
 
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I do get trolly at times, but I am not utep1966.

Liberty isn’t the best team in our league, wtf?!? They’re 2-3 in CUSA lol.

I have already stated multiple times, winning regular season games, especially at home, against worse teams isn’t anything I celebrate. FIU is 7-11 and straight garbage. UTEP is supposed to beat teams like that. Bronzeing makes 800k, Jeremy Ballard makes 450k and is lucky to get 1,000 in the stands.

UTEP should absolutely beat FIU 97 times out of 100. They are trash. I don’t celebrate wins over trash.
Kane, how long have you been a Miner fan? The reason I ask is that I have been one for so long that I remember all the good days and how different they were. I think the longer you have been a fan, the more you have to look at and it really affects how we see the team. Someone who just has been one over the last 15 or 20 years definitely would not have that perspective.

My guess is that you have been one for a long time and like me, we are getting frustrated with the lack of change and are afraid that it now has become the norm and people are comfortable with it.
 
Kane, how long have you been a Miner fan? The reason I ask is that I have been one for so long that I remember all the good days and how different they were. I think the longer you have been a fan, the more you have to look at and it really affects how we see the team. Someone who just has been one over the last 15 or 20 years definitely would not have that perspective.

My guess is that you have been one for a long time and like me, we are getting frustrated with the lack of change and are afraid that it now has become the norm and people are comfortable with it.
The first game I remember watching the whole thing, was the BYU WACT game at Colorado St. Then the 92 Tournament games. I started attending games regularly after that.

I saw the later Haskins years. Saw players like Eggie McRae, Jarvis Mullahan, Damian Gosa, Hector Gonzalez, Jon Bomba, Carl Davis, and good players like Will Smith and Antonie Gillispie.

I get frustrated because I see teams with less fan support and less resources constantly accomplish things. While our accomplishments are winning 3 games in football and beating Liberty on the road in basketball apparently.

UNM and ULM can win 5 games for their 1st year football coach. Not here.

FAU and Loyola can make the Final 4 while we can’t even win the regular season title with some of the highest paid coachs in the league.
 
The first game I remember watching the whole thing, was the BYU WACT game at Colorado St. Then the 92 Tournament games. I started attending games regularly after that.

I saw the later Haskins years. Saw players like Eggie McRae, Jarvis Mullahan, Damian Gosa, Hector Gonzalez, Jon Bomba, Carl Davis, and good players like Will Smith and Antonie Gillispie.

I get frustrated because I see teams with less fan support and less resources constantly accomplish things. While our accomplishments are winning 3 games in football and beating Liberty on the road in basketball apparently.

UNM and ULM can win 5 games for their 1st year football coach. Not here.

FAU and Loyola can make the Final 4 while we can’t even win the regular season title with some of the highest paid coachs in the league.
Yes, that is far enough to really feel it. I go a lot further than that, so my frustration is even higher. So many years of actual winning back then and before peppered with a few bad seasons here and there, but the real feeling that the next year would be better.

I really don't have those feeling that the next year will be so much better and they will be back where they were. That is my sadness. It just seems this is the same thing year after year, keeping the coach too long because he is mediocre and then running the program into the ground and starting it all over.
 
Yes, that is far enough to really feel it. I go a lot further than that, so my frustration is even higher. So many years of actual winning back then and before peppered with a few bad seasons here and there, but the real feeling that the next year would be better.

I really don't have those feeling that the next year will be so much better and they will be back where they were. That is my sadness. It just seems this is the same thing year after year, keeping the coach too long because he is mediocre and then running the program into the ground and starting it all over.
Next year will most likely be worse than this years. Bronzeing hasn’t shown the ability to bring in impact players in a short time.

Who is he bringing in to replace Frazier, Camper, Hamilton, and Kalu? What if they don’t make the NCAA Tournament? Why would you bring him back or give him an extension without the appearance?

Another point of mine is, you can get these same results with a lower paid coach. If you’re paying a coach premium money, you should get premium results. We haven’t seen that yet.
 
Next year will most likely be worse than this years. Bronzeing hasn’t shown the ability to bring in impact players in a short time.

Who is he bringing in to replace Frazier, Camper, Hamilton, and Kalu? What if they don’t make the NCAA Tournament? Why would you bring him back or give him an extension without the appearance?

Another point of mine is, you can get these same results with a lower paid coach. If you’re paying a coach premium money, you should get premium results. We haven’t seen that yet.
Hamilton and Camper will have the option of returning with the extra year for JC guys.
 
Yes, I have watched the Utah Valley State and San Jose State games among many others. Seems that you conveniently keep forgetting those. Did you bet on the Miners in those?

Liberty is the best opponent they have beaten with a 76 Quad ranking. You are acting like the Miners are giant killers. They have a 136 Quad Ranking. How is that going to hold up in the MWC?

Not to rain on your parade, but 1 win is not going to make the season. You act like you would be happy if they win 20 games but don't win the CUSA tournament. To me, it is tournament or bust.

It seems like we have different expectations, as your satisfaction is a lot lower than mine. Sorry but I just can't settle for mediocrity anymore.
Yeah I’m satisfied with a team 13-4 at this point that knows how to close out games. You want to watch only the few games we lost and bash our coach and our players and be negative towards what we’ve done. Enjoy the misery
 
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There are TWO solid trolls. Kane and UTEP1966. They are polar opposites, but probably the same person. Corona is just trying to annoy people, but he is a nice guy in person.

I am hard core UTEP. I don't accept mediocrity, but I don't ONLY shit on them because they have sucked since 1992 Kane. I WANT and HOPE they do well in every sport. I believe Senter should be gone. But I also cheer on success like beating the best team in our current league on the road. I wanted Golding fired after NMSU, but I applaud him for getting the kids to perform the next game.

If you are ONLY rah rah or debbie downer, you are a troll. If you feel the need to reply to every single post, you are a troll.

But whatever....

I'm not a troll dude. Stop with the nonsense. You clearly don't read my posts. It's even funnier that you think I'm the same person as Kane.
 
Also Bynum next year correct?
Not yet, I don't think. The Pavia ruling only applies to guys that are out of eligibility this year (extra year). You would think the NCAA would continue that moving forward, but they may be waiting on the new administration in the hope of getting some rulings in their favor.
 
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