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CUSA Possible Standings After Tomorrow's Games

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La Tech @ UTEP
Charlotte @ UAB
USM @ UTSA
ODU @ MTSU
RICE @ FAU
WKU @ Marshall OFF

Best case scenario.
UTEP, Charlotte and MTSU wins.
Standings would be
MTSU 11-1
La Tech 8-4
UTEP 7-4
ODU/UAB 7-5

Most likely scenario
UTEP, UAB and MTSU wins.
MTSU 11-1
LT 8-4
UAB 8-4
UTEP 7-4

Another realistic scenario
MTSU, LT and UAB win
MTSU 11-1
LT 9-3
UAB 8-4
ODU 7-5
UTEP 6-5 drops into a tie with WKU, Marshall and possibly RICE and UTSA for 5th place.

Could also happen
ODU, UTEP and UAB wins
MTSU 10-2
LT 8-4
ODU 8-4
UAB 8-4
UTEP 7-4

Worst case scenario is if ODU and UAB wins combined with a UTEP loss. That would put the Miners 2.5 games behind a top four seed.

Basically a win can propel us to third or fourth or leave us at fifth. While a loss puts in a tie with multiple teams for fifth.
 
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I love your analysis, but with season it's best just to take it game by game. Also, I wouldn't say UTEP winning is the most likely scenario. It was a miracle that UTEP beat Middle Tennesee. When UTEP was down by 17 points they probably had the same chance to win as New England had to win the Super Bowl in the 4th quarter. Not taking anything away from the win, but let's just not get overconfident.

It is amazing though that the majority of us thought this season was over and at least there is light at the end of the tunnel.
 
Someone wasn't at the game (EPSportsFan) because the Miners absolutely had the better team. MTS was lucky to be up at the half with our atrocious (Fearful?) shooting. We were wide open. They were a one man team (Williams, who is fantastic) and when the percentages caught up in the second half and we started hitting shots, MTS was dead. Except for Williams who can score at will. No miracle. Our defense held them to 26 points each half. We just needed to shoot a normal percentage. That said, I worry about La Tech and SM because, in the past, we tend to play horribly when we are not underdogs. We are now favored to win at home.
 
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After doing a three punch knockout of the top three teams in the conference we should be favorites over La Tech. We are the only team to beat MT in CUSA. They had shown flashes of making miraculous comebacks in the past vs UNM and WKU. They finally completed one. The team is riding high in confidence and know that no matter who they're playing or what the score is they can win.
 
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Vegasminer said:
Someone wasn't at the game (EPSportsFan) because the Miners absolutely had the better team. MTS was lucky to be up at the half with our atrocious (Fearful?) shooting. We were wide open. They were a one man team (Williams, who is fantastic) and when the percentages caught up in the second half and we started hitting shots, MTS was dead. Except for Williams who can score at will. No miracle. Our defense held them to 26 points each half. We just needed to shoot a normal percentage. That said, I worry about La Tech and SM because, in the past, we tend to play horribly when we are not underdogs. We are now favored to win at home.
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I have been to every UTEP game this season and have been through all the lows and highs.

Obviously UTEP had the better team last Saturday because they won. Obviously OVERALL Middle Tennessee is a much better team.

No miracle? UTEP was down by 17 points in the second half. It was a miracle that UTEP won.

UTEP is not favored to win at home. I don't know who is telling you that.
 
El Paso Sports Fan said:
I have been to every UTEP game this season and have been through all the lows and highs.

Obviously UTEP had the better team last Saturday because they won. Obviously OVERALL Middle Tennessee is a much better team.

No miracle? UTEP was down by 17 points in the second half. It was a miracle that UTEP won.

UTEP is not favored to win at home. I don't know who is telling you that.
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I think they'll be 5 point dogs tomorrow
 
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http://www.dnj.com/story/sports/col...ave-mtsu-mens-hoops-after-utep-loss/97640816/

A more realistic view of CUSA. If you read this article about MTSU, they feel basically the same as UTEP but MTSU has a far, fat superior SOS and OOC. But both schools are in a sub par conference that basically pans out so that Rice and UTEP have a similar chance of getting into the NCAA as MTSU if the buckets fall for the Owls or Miners.

I think the RPI and other rankings are a good barometer, but it is total bullshit that MTSU has to sweat for one bad loss against UTEP. P5 schools have embarrassing losses year, after year, after year come Thanksgiving or Christmas, but yet all is forgotten come February and March....bullcrap!! That's what commissioners are for dammit! Get off your ass and come together with other mid majors to provide a formula or fairness request to the selection committees for mid-majors who have strong schedules and come out ahead but have one "oopsie" in conference. If MTSU wins out and wins their way to the regular season title but fall at the tourney, they better make the NCAA, they deserve it and lame ass CUSA better scream from the highest hills.

Ok, I'll get off my high horse. I did my part for being a fair fan of an in-conference rival and only because the p5's do it constantly for major revenue sports and work hard to keep mid-majors out.
 
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El Paso Sports Fan said:
I have been to every UTEP game this season and have been through all the lows and highs.

Obviously UTEP had the better team last Saturday because they won. Obviously OVERALL Middle Tennessee is a much better team.

No miracle? UTEP was down by 17 points in the second half. It was a miracle that UTEP won.

UTEP is not favored to win at home. I don't know who is telling you that.
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You're obviously not really a sports fan. Was it a miracle that the Patriots won after the first half? Of course not. The Miners held this really good team to the same total score in each half. it takes grit and hard work to accomplish that Had you been at the game you would have seen a terrific chess game between two coaches and a Miner team that imposed their will on a worthy opponent . No Miracle. Their Transfer power forward, Williams, he's the real deal!
 
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The team paid dearly not finishing top 4 last year. A top 4 finish is what matters at this point, not what kind of win last week's games were or whether the team should be favored or not. Who cares. Tip it off and continue to play solid D and give themselves a chance. The rest takes care of itself.
 
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You're obviously not really a sports fan. Was it a miracle that the Patriots won after the first half? Of course not.
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You have no clue what you are talking about. The Falcons had a 99.9% chance to win the game. It was a miracle that they won the game. I was also a miracle that UTEP won the game as well being down 17 in the second half.

If you don't believe me here are a few headlines:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pag...cle-how-patriots-came-back-dead-super-bowl-li
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...atch_helped_key_the_patriots_miracle_comeback
http://www.wmur.com/article/falcons-take-stunning-21-0-lead-in-super-bowl/8679604
 
El Paso Sports Fan said:
You have no clue what you are talking about. The Falcons had a 99.9% chance to win the game. It was a miracle that they won the game. I was also a miracle that UTEP won the game as well being down 17 in the second half.

If you don't believe me here are a few headlines:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pag...cle-how-patriots-came-back-dead-super-bowl-li
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...atch_helped_key_the_patriots_miracle_comeback
http://www.wmur.com/article/falcons-take-stunning-21-0-lead-in-super-bowl/8679604
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Last year when UTEP was down by 20 with under 9 minutes to play vs WKU was that also a miracle? Does that make Tim Floyd Jesus Christ then?
 
JCorona said:
Last year when UTEP was down by 20 with under 9 minutes to play vs WKU was that also a miracle? Does that make Tim Floyd Jesus Christ then?
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Of course it was.

Every team has a miracle game here and there when they're down by 10 with two minutes to go and win or something of that nature. It's too bad Floyd can't win the games he is supposed to win. Otherwise, he would have probably accomplished more here.
 
El Paso Sports Fan said:
Of course it was.

Every team has a miracle game here and there when they're down by 10 with two minutes to go and win or something of that nature. It's too bad Floyd can't win the games he is supposed to win. Otherwise, he would have probably accomplished more here.
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Oh I get it, you really aren't discussing the validity of sports "miracles"...you're just trolling to trash Floyd. Get a f___g life. Losers like you are like a dog with a bone. You could lay a steak next to them but they don't let go of that bone.
 
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No. 1
Put " you know who" on ignore and the rest of us can post our options without always being corrected. Sometimes when I see or make a post I wonder what he could possibly see in that post to contradict, but he'll sure as hell come up with some out- of- this-world, ambiguous and meaningless justification to pounce. That's his mission! I am through taking his bait.

No. 2
I am trying to be realistic about the La Tech game as well as the rest of the season. We've come a long way since the 12 game losing streak and I feel that it's due primarily to Matt Willm's emergence along with a much improved Paul Thomas. The success has been Willms, Harris and Artist game by game with help from at least one other...Thomas, Flaggert, Touchet or maybe Jones. If any of the Big Three goes down or gets limited PT due to fouls in a key game I think we're doomed. My opinion. What's our history with La Tech?
 
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miner1liner said:
No. 1
Put " you know who" on ignore and the rest of us can post our options without always being corrected. Sometimes when I see or make a post I wonder what he could possibly see in that post to contradict, but he'll sure as hell come up with some out- of- this-world, ambiguous and meaningless justification to pounce. That's his mission! I am through taking his bait.

No. 2
I am trying to be realistic about the La Tech game as well as the rest of the season. We've come a long way since the 12 game losing streak and I feel that it's due primarily to Matt Willm's emergence along with a much improved Paul Thomas. The success has been Willms, Harris and Artist game by game with help from at least one other...Thomas, Flaggert, Touchet or maybe Jones. If any of the Big Three goes down or gets limited PT due to fouls in a key game I think we're doomed. My opinion. What's our history with La Tech?
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From what I recall reading recently the last 10 head to head is 5-5 overall with an average score of 70-69 in favor of LT.
 
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Vegasminer said:
Oh I get it, you really aren't discussing the validity of sports "miracles"...you're just trolling to trash Floyd. Get a f___g life. Losers like you are like a dog with a bone. You could lay a steak next to them but they don't let go of that bone.
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lol Huh??

If you don't think the Patriots Super Bowl win was a miracle then I can't help you.

I have complimented the team and Floyd a number of times these past few weeks. I'm just stating an opinion. Calm down.
 
miner1liner said:
No. 1
Put " you know who" on ignore and the rest of us can post our options without always being corrected. Sometimes when I see or make a post I wonder what he could possibly see in that post to contradict, but he'll sure as hell come up with some out- of- this-world, ambiguous and meaningless justification to pounce. That's his mission! I am through taking his bait.
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So if you see something you don't agree with or you know isn't true, you don't provide your own opinions or you don't correct them?

This is what message boards are all about. Imagine if this board was full of posts where everybody agreed with each other. That would be VERY VERY boring.
 
El Paso Sports Fan said:
If you don't think the Patriots victory in the Super Bowl WASN'T a miracle, then you have no clue what you are talking about.
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I agree the super bowl comeback was a miracle. This is CUSA basketball not professional world championship football.

That was the biggest comeback and 1st time a super bowl game went in OT in its 51 year history. It's not that uncommon for teams to comeback from large deficits in the second half in college basketball. I don't consider UTEP's victory a miracle.
 
JCorona said:
I agree the super bowl comeback was a miracle. This is CUSA basketball not professional world championship football.

That was the biggest comeback and 1st time a super bowl game went in OT in its 51 year history. It's not that uncommon for teams to comeback from large deficits in the second half in college basketball. I don't consider UTEP's victory a miracle.
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I just consider it a miracle because they were down by 17 points in the second half to the 30th best team in the country. Considering the record UTEP has I would consider that a miracle.

I am sure at the beginning of the year most people would say it would be a miracle if UTEP just beat Middle Tennessee.
 
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Kind of, but it definitely didn't kick them out of the Big Dance.
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That is yet to be determined but a quote from utep2step link...

"The consensus opinion among experts is that MTSU's at-large chances are slim to none after the latest loss"
 
Unfortunately for your amateur bookmakers on here, Las Vegas doesn't read these message boards to create the point spreads.
And a second point if it was not a miracle than it proves most peoples point that if UTEP is the better team, then they have been underachieving all year, have the talent to win, yet somehow don't ever live up to their potential. After all,(again, based on the statements of some) the team that is not better is winning the conference. Who's fault is that?
In no way should this save Floyd because he has created this situation in the first place, and who in their right mind (besides some on here) would believe that next year will be any different?
Again, this is based on the statement that UTEP is the BETTER TEAM. From that statement Floyd should 100 percent be gone.
 
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Rocketsr hit the nail on the head with the above post.

It's was hilarious that some people thought that UTEP would be favorite to win against Louisiana Tech. I think UTEP will be favorite against Southern Miss, but I don't think by much.
 
Well I'm not a master book keeper but Vegas is losing money with the spreads they have put against the Miners these past few weeks. UTEP has beat the spread in six consecutive games. Starting with UTSA up until last night.
 
JCorona said:
Well I'm not a master book keeper but Vegas is losing money with the spreads they have put against the Miners these past few weeks. UTEP has beat the spread in six consecutive games. Starting with UTSA up until last night.
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I doubt many people bet on UTEP, so it's no biggie to them.
 
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Yea not a big deal even though casinos are in business to make money. Obviously not even the professional odds maker know how to set the line against UTEP.
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I meant that loss (if there was one and people actually bet on UTEP) is no biggie since they clean up on other bets.

I think the lines were set fine the way they were. UTEP is just "overachieving".
 
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I meant that loss (if there was one and people actually bet on UTEP) is no biggie since they clean up on other bets.

I think the lines were set fine the way they were. UTEP is just "overachieving".
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Well you can call it miracles, hilarious or overachieving I'll simply call it what it is. The professional oddmakers have been wrong concearning UTEP the last six consecutive games.
 
El Paso Sports Fan said:
And? They're wrong about many lines after the fact.
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We're not talking about "many" lines we are talking about one team UTEP. So if the professionals are wrong then why is it hilarious when an ametuer picks his favorite home team to win?
 
JCorona said:
We're not talking about "many" lines we are talking about one team UTEP. So if the professionals are wrong then why is it hilarious when an ametuer picks his favorite home team to win?
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Huh? It was posted that UTEP was going to be favorite to beat Louisiana Tech. Obviously they weren't.

I picked UTEP to win, but obviously I knew they weren't favorite to win. Those are two different things.
 
El Paso Sports Fan said:
Huh? It was posted that UTEP was going to be favorite to beat Louisiana Tech. Obviously they weren't.

I picked UTEP to win, but obviously I knew they weren't favorite to win. Those are two different things.
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In the end either UTEP favored to win or underdogs by 5-6 points resulted in the same thing. The oddmakers being wrong and losing money on that game.
 
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