He was a good coach for UTEP football standards. He won the only conference championship.
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He was a good coach for UTEP football standards. He won the only conference championship.
Pitino is as toxic as they come. Iona is a great fit for him with his New York roots. However, if UTEP offered him in 2018 instead of Terry. He would have taken it in a heartbeat. I doubt he ever coaches a game at Iona. I think a five year show cause is coming his way.
Because he wants to be a head coach. Nobody is going to hire him. Those assistants jobs aren't going anywhere.
That's the biggest what if in UTEP athletics history. What if Gary Nord got to coach the fifth year of his five year plan? Nord definitely had the recruiting formula for UTEP that no one since has been close to replicating. If he wins in 2004 we probably be become a consistently winning program.
He would still have chosen UTEP. Our basketball program is as big a dumpster fire as our football program. However, UTEP offers something GCU couldnt; insulation. The Phoenix media would have ripped him to shreds everyday. The negative press would have been overwhelming. The El Paso media is soft as Charmin. He would have been insulated from tough questions. The city would have embraced him just like they initially did floyd and price initially who were both disgraced.
I think a bigger what if is, had we not being picked for cusa and instead we take LT’s place in the WAC, would Price have gone toe to toe for WAC supremacy with Boise St?
I don't think so. Pitino would have been a great fit there and had a lot of great things to say about the school.
I didn’t mention the fiesta bowl. All I said is would UTEP compete with Boise for the wac title. But ok. That’s your opinion.
Our entire athletic program would be in shambles. The WAC was quickly collapsing and the smartest thing Stull ever did was to abandon that sinking ship.
Well the only season Price coached in the wac with Boise we finished behind them. So I think we would be in the top three mix a lot more than in cusa.
If we hadn’t received a cusa invite we would have been invited to the MW when they raided the WAC.
Mike Leach once said The Sun Bowl wasa louder and more intimidating than Kyle field and dkr memorial stadium in Austin. In his defense DKR has always been a very quiet stadium and the crowd is pretty passive. Kyle Field however is always loud and the 12 th man is always ready to go. It was all coach speak meant to troll rivals. You ever heard a coach say a place is piece of shit? They never do.
I believe under price in the wac of 05-12 we would have won more games. A lot of times we went 5-7 in cusa. I could easily see a 7-5 season in the wac.
The wac had a period with three top 25 teams. Boise, Fresno and Hawaii. If we had stayed we could have been in that conversation.
Plus UTEP would have received a share of the Fiesta Bowl and Sugar Bowl money.
Hindsight is 20/20. Did we make the right move? Maybe at the time. If Stull would have known that in 2013, CUSA would have been UNT, UTSA, FIU, FAU and other Sun Belt schools and Houston, SMU, and Memphis are gone; I don’t know if you make that move.
Everybody knew Boise had one foot out the door. The writing was on the wall.
Terry needs to troll UTSA.
The way Henson has owned I-10 in the series and kicked Terry's ass in recruiting might not be a bad idea.
Yeah and they went to the MWC, where they will be for the foreseeable future. UTEP would have been in the MWC right now, had they not joined CUSA. Where they would be playing Boise St every year.
Everyone from the 05 wac except NMSU found a home in either cusa or MW. Why wouldn’t we?
Who knows we might have gotten lucky and beat them once. UNM did.
Possible. They’re not in the eastern time zone, so maybe. Things would be a lot different if we didn’t change conferences and had we fired Price and not hired Kugler.
We were outmanned by our conference mates in sec territory. They weren’t good teams just bigger and stronger than us. I think if we had stayed in the wac we would have a statue of mike price outside the sun bowl.
That’s not all of it. There were some issues with Price’s coaching as well. In 2006, the Miners were 5-6 and could have been .500, not sure if they would have gone bowling, but they got blown out by a 1-10 Memphis team in front of 31k in the Sun Bowl. That’s poor coaching.
As someone who attended all games in my tenure at Kyle Field, that crowd is nowhere near the loudness and rowdiness of a packed Sun Bowl. And I even attended the games against the T-Sips and not even close.
The ONLY way to get things started at UTEP now is to bring in a troubled P5 coach that can instantly change our recruiting efforts, score points, get some wins and put butts in the seats. I dont see any other option at this point. It will then be up to our administration and donors to keep us rolling once we reach the top. We are just spinning our wheels.
Bringing in a has been or never was will take too long to turn things around and create a deeper rut. We need somebody to pull us out and put us on even ground so we can at least turn the wheels.
Bringing in a has been or never was will take too long to turn things around and create a deeper rut. We need somebody to pull us out and put us on even ground so we can at least turn the wheels.
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It is not the ONLY option. Remember, all head coaches had to start somewhere. Somebody took a chance on Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, and every other coach. Some turn out like Dismel and Kugler, others don’t.
