I'm going to put you on ignore allminer. I just wasted 30 minutes of my life reading all your meaningless posts that brought nothing to the discussion.
Floyd picks up a guard commit: Tim Cameron; Hargrave Military Academy
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Allminer baited me. I said I wasn't going to respond to his posts and I took the bait. Now I know for sure allminer just likes to hear himself talk. Allminer will be the first person I will have to ignore.
Actually no I wasn't. Wasn't in town. Pretty classy of fans to boo, I'm sure you weren't among the ones who did. I see the Miners were 10-6 at the time. Certainly a reason to boo the head coach.
No answer involving the Xs and Os and Jimmies and Joes will satisfy some here. The bottom line is Floyd has underwhelmed at UTEP so far. If he's interviewed for other jobs it probably helps preserve his ego during this period of underperformance.
He gets longer than other coaches would because he's a favorite son of the program with ties to its glory days. But he needs to win CUSA and/or get to the big dance in the next 2-3 years, or he's likely gone. I doubt he'll do either this year, and I don't think he'll be fired for it, unless the wheels fall completely off.
As for my monkey gif, I was simply trying to inject a little humor into the discussion.
He gets longer than other coaches would because he's a favorite son of the program with ties to its glory days. But he needs to win CUSA and/or get to the big dance in the next 2-3 years, or he's likely gone. I doubt he'll do either this year, and I don't think he'll be fired for it, unless the wheels fall completely off.
As for my monkey gif, I was simply trying to inject a little humor into the discussion.
2-3 more years????? Man let's just sign him to a 20 year contract too. Like I said, I think if he focuses on the team instead of trying to land another big job we will do fine.
I may very well be wrong here. Just going by memory. Wasn't Floyd in Arizona and that conversation happened on the telephone?
Also, strictly going by the facts available, it didn't sound like a job interview.
Are you saying UTEP and Memphis did not battle to try and sign this player? That because he was transferring it is somehow a different battle to sign him?
Why would Floyd be in Arizona in March during the UTEP basketball season? What other reasons would there be for Floyd to have a 3 hour meeting with Haden?
Just by going by facts available it doesn't sound like a job interview? lol!!!! What does it sound like then?
I really don't think so. It's no loss to Memphis- Memphis doesn't have to "battle" with UTEP because Memphis can get better recruits because they have a better team with a better coach.
Again, just going by memory and I could be wrong. I thought Coach Floyd said he was in Arizona, recruiting I believe, and the conversation was by phone.
The facts are Coach Floyd said USC contacted him and he agreed to talk to them to clear his name regarding the USC scandal. He never said it was interview. Anything else is speculation whether it's true or not.
Then why was the Memphis fan base on MT.org calling for Pastner's head when they lost the recruit to us?
Those are the facts: "Former USC basketball coach Tim Floyd said Monday night he has had a meeting with Athletic Director Pat Haden in which they discussed the Trojans basketball job opening."
I am not sure what you aren't getting.
You're right. Some people can be provided with facts and they still won't believe them. You can have a picture at the respective school's airport and some people still won't believe it.
Correct. That still doesn't say he interviewed for the job. That's speculation.
Nor can we base what UTEP and Memphis do regarding recruits on your sole opinion. Memphis wanted him and yet UTEP got him.
lol That is not speculation. You clearly don't get it and you are just like your friend allminer. We provided you facts and you say it's "speculation". I will be putting you on ignore as well. Fortunately, you never add anything to add to this board so it will be no loss.
Look up the first three to four I listed off and look at their "body of work" (as Kugler would say) the last decade or more. Look, you can come here and pick, but please bring substance.
So the root of your problem with Floyd is you think he's been spending his time looking for another job instead of focusing on the team?
I don't know. The fans at MT.org seem to think he could have gotten all the minutes he wanted there and yet he still signed here.
Lots of ridiculousness in this thread. To say Floyd has not had real interest in other jobs is flat out wrong. It's not really even a secret.
And to say there isn't a recruiting process for transfers is dumb. Of course there is. And Memphis went hard after Jones. Pastner wanted him. So did others.
My point was that Memphis doesn't lose anything. Memphis's recruiting class is much better than UTEP's recruiting class. I am sure Brodericks chose UTEP because he didn't want to sit on the bench at Memphis.
Have you paid attention to Memphis the last several years? Have you watched them play within the last two years? This is not the same Memphis program that we faced on an annual basis for close to a decade. Their recruiting classes are not much better than ours anymore, if any better at all. Memphis wanted BJ...and badly. Especially since they lost their PF, Nichols, who decided to bolt for greener pastures. It was a loss for them, and somewhat of a slap in the face that Jones chose to settle in EP instead of playing in the FedEx Forum.
Memphis is still better than UTEP and would beat UTEP if we still played them. I am not saying they are as great as when they went to the Big Dance 4 straight seasons, but they are still good.
But your point was that Memphis didn't give a $hit about not landing BJ. That is absolutely not true though. They wouldn't have thrown the offer his way if they didn't want him. It isn't a "we can take him or leave him" mentality with which Pastner recruits. There is purpose and intent behind who they recruit and offer. The reason I even bring up that this isn't the same Memphis team of previous years is not to compare UTEP to Memphis, but rather to point out that they aren't all that good anymore and Jones would've no doubt played big minutes in a Tiger uniform.
I really don't think they care either way. Brodericks would probably have been a bench player at Memphis. Why do you think Brodericks chose UTEP?
Again, Memphis' PF had just left. The spot was wide open for BJ, or someone else, to step into. I think BJ chose UTEP for a variety of reasons, but I can only accept the reasons he actually gave. The rest would be mere assumptions...and we all know about those.
What reasons did he gave? Who is their right mind who choose UTEP over Memphis if it didn't mean about more playing time at UTEP?
He liked CTF's resume and connections. He liked that he had a high school teammate at UTEP. He felt at "home" in EP during his visit. He liked the prospect of immediate playing time. All good reasons imo.
Pastner sucks as a coach. Memphis has slid farther and farther away from their glory years and only show signs of continuing the trend. Not like Memphis is attracting top talent anymore.
You're right. Going to the Big Dance 4 out of 6 years is an awful record. A 148-58 record is terrible.
Haha. Bush league chi. That was one of four reasons. And the last reason he gave. If that proves your point, I hope you're not a lawyer, judge or debate teacher.
Then what do you call Floyd who has been 0-5 in Big Dance appearances?
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