Damn, they put it up fast:
https://www.kvia.com/news/border/we...er-on-private-land-in-sunland-park/1081311659
https://www.kvia.com/news/border/we...er-on-private-land-in-sunland-park/1081311659
Group spends millions raised online building border wall on private Sunland Park property
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No matter your feelings about the wall or immigration, shows private enterprise can get the job done better than the government.
Ironically the contractors that Use American Eagle Brick Company probably employ hundreds if not thousands of illegal immigrants. I can almost guarantee that at least 2 people that built that half-mile wall are illegal immigrants. The irony is thick.
Realm is a little puzzled... isn't there flat land on both the North and South side of Mt Cristo Rey??
Why spend $6 million to fence in only 1/2 mile of the hardest stretch of the border??
With limited funds... and even more limited foresight... Maybe this is WHY things go wrong when you put projects in the hands of private industry and a scam artist like Brian Kolfage.
Shitttt... you had me and my buds at MAGA worried for a second... By ALL MEANS, Continue building YOUR fking wall. Realm
This can apply to a lot of things. Where I live toll roads are opened months ahead of schedule and millions under budget. Imagine having road work on I-10 and I-35 completed that effectively.
According to what I'm seeing right now the city has issued a cease-and-desist because they didn't have proper permits. This makes me wonder about the rest of the city
Realm is a little puzzled... isn't there flat land on both the North and South side of Mt Cristo Rey??
Why spend $6 million to fence in only 1/2 mile of the hardest stretch of the border??
With limited funds... and even more limited foresight... Maybe this is WHY things go wrong when you put projects in the hands of private industry and a scam artist like Brian Kolfage.
Shitttt... you had me and my buds at MAGA worried for a second... By ALL MEANS, Continue building YOUR fking wall. Realm
It doesn't meet Sunland Park's building code? You mean the same city in which you can see a cinder block house wedged between a trailer and metal shed.
Maybe that's why they have a building code? I guess 8 million to give the liberals the finger is a better use of money they assisting folks who lost their homes to the recent tornados in Ohio? Oh well it's all about our priorities as a nation.
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Not if the height of the fencing runs afoul of the homeowners association regulations.
Just a guess, but I'm betting there is no homeowners association anywhere near where the fence was built.
I thought I heard the man in charge said he received TWO approvals. I don't know and I really don't care. People donated money (BTW the money was donated long before the tornadoes...JS) of their own. Obviously THEY wanted it built. It's on land owned by a private citizen. Obviously Sunland Park is run by democrats. If the demos were for the wall, nothing would have been said except a bunch of high fives and atta boys. If Dems built the fence and repubs were running Sunland, they would complain.
People gotta bi*&h about every.damn.thing. Whatever happened to saying "that's stupid....oh well...."?
For the record, Sunland likes the attention they are getting. They NOW feel important.
Sunland Park city government is the most corrupt on the planet, guarantee they saw 7 figures and want to find a way to line their pockets with it. My guess is this has nothing to do with code or taking a political stance, it's about how they can profit.
You would think a "brick" company could build their own wall.... and cheaper.
8 freaking million BUCKS!!!!! for 800 yds of WALL!!! sounds steep. I bet the man who started this go fund me campaign got a huge kick back from the company who built the brickless wall.
I find it interesting that the congressman thinks the cartel paid off Sunland Park. If anything, I would have guessed the cock fighters taking their cocks to Juarez would be the prime suspect. I mean a couple lap dances can't be that expensive.
8 freaking million BUCKS!!!!! for 800 yds of WALL!!! sounds steep. I bet the man who started this go fund me campaign got a huge kick back from the company who built the brickless wall.
I find it interesting that the congressman thinks the cartel paid off Sunland Park. If anything, I would have guessed the cock fighters taking their cocks to Juarez would be the prime suspect. I mean a couple lap dances can't be that expensive.
"Don't take away my social security!!" said an old lady from Kentucky to Dubya years ago.
No matter what you think of Christopher Columbus, he wouldn't have made it across the globe without the government.
Those freeways were not a privatized endeavor.
I guess we've forgotten the financial crisis of '08? Private corporations shut the financial valves and holed up trillions of dollars even after the government begged them to free that money up and they refused. Obama, love him or hate him, told the greedy "you made this mess, you clean up this mess!". Everyday government and the private sector work hand in hand, private needs the government and vice versa.
A synic might say the private sector capitalizes on public funds by rubbing elbos and catering to politicians worst traits in order to gain favor in contract bids. How often does it happen? All the time. Its the biggest of corruptions in our society. But they'll never build a wall between politics and free enterprise. "They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."
Actually, the financial crisis of 08 was encouraged by gov't by waay of the CRA. The further expansion of high risk loans were encouraged by lawmakers, which included Obama. It of course was an attempt to free up credit to low income/ minority families, thus making home ownership attainable to more Americans.
It of course helped drive a massive housing bubble that for a while seemed pretty good for the economy, but every bubble tends to bust. Much of our economy's actually driven this way, which is why the term "boom/bust" is commonly used to describe our economic cycles. t's a good example of how emotionally driven policies can actually hurt people in the long run, if not thought out carefully..
And no, Obama didn't tell anyone to clean up their mess. He saved specific financial institutions with bailouts. Essentially, Obama told YOU the taxpayer to clean up the mess...
Very true. But for those who operate in a legit ethical and moral manner put in for bids everyday all over the country to build roads, parks, buildings etc.
No sir. Not true. Dead men tell no tales but McCain and the Keating 5 set this country down a dark road. Bill Clinton did create "no money down" residential loans which had good intentions but created to the problem and compounded over time. Corrections ensued and a more centralized approach in the real estate market was created (I work in it). No one was making those private financial institutions decide on high risk loans. Long story short, along comes "Dodd-Frank" but the same risky investments are still going on. They just relabeled the financial transactions. What you can accuse Obama of is basically kicking the can down the road because there will be another crisis because the feds basically said "Keep Calm and Carry On" attitude. We will have another crisis.
I guess I'm a little confused...
I read up on the Keating 5 scandal, as I was unaware of it. Basically McCain (among with 4 other Democrats) were given substantial campaign donations, and in return they encouraged the FHLBB to back off on investigating Lincoln Savings and their improper investment practices. It's maybe a small part of a larger problem, but not the actual issue we're discussing.
The federal gov't did indeed spur the collapse by backing GSE's and encouraging risky loans. This is indisputable. Loans were not so easy to come by when private entities risked total collapse if their risky investments didn't pan out.
There's a nice video where Frank, Obama, and others chastised certain lawmakers (including mccain) who were sounding the alarms of this practice. I just did a quick vid search and found this, but there's some better one's out there.
You are correct, though. We are in the midst of another bubble. Where I live, I rented a decent ~500/600sqft apartment for about $800/mo 5yrs ago. That same apartment is 1,400/mo right now. The housing prices have increased at the same rate. Another correction is coming, and this one may actually be worse than 08...
I read up on the Keating 5 scandal, as I was unaware of it. Basically McCain (among with 4 other Democrats) were given substantial campaign donations, and in return they encouraged the FHLBB to back off on investigating Lincoln Savings and their improper investment practices. It's maybe a small part of a larger problem, but not the actual issue we're discussing.
The federal gov't did indeed spur the collapse by backing GSE's and encouraging risky loans. This is indisputable. Loans were not so easy to come by when private entities risked total collapse if their risky investments didn't pan out.
There's a nice video where Frank, Obama, and others chastised certain lawmakers (including mccain) who were sounding the alarms of this practice. I just did a quick vid search and found this, but there's some better one's out there.
You are correct, though. We are in the midst of another bubble. Where I live, I rented a decent ~500/600sqft apartment for about $800/mo 5yrs ago. That same apartment is 1,400/mo right now. The housing prices have increased at the same rate. Another correction is coming, and this one may actually be worse than 08...
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