No, I didn’t. Although Terry came to UTEP from FSU, he was a mediocre coach at FSU. He had a strong reputation as a top recruiter at UT, that’s why he got the HC job at FSU. He was able to bring good talent to UTEP, but it was very clear he was getting out coached by coaches with lesser talent.
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I’m curious, if Tang was so instrumental in Baylor’s title run do you think he waits to see if a bigger school comes in and makes a massive offer?
It's true that I don't absolutely know that Tang would be a successful head coach at UTEP. I believe that he would be, but the only way to absolutely know would be for him to get the job and give him time to build the program. Here's something that's also true: you don't absolutely know if Golding, DeVries, or Jans would be successful at UTEP. Success for a coach at one school doesn't always equate to success at another.
I thought at the times that the two biggest slam dunk hires in recent UTEP history were Mike Price and Tim Floyd. As you know, typically when hiring a coach you have two options: hire a hot shot assistant from a bigger school, or hire a successful coach from a smaller school. If a team has been successful, they might go with a third option, promote from within the program. With Price and Floyd, however, we had a rare option: hire a successful coach from a bigger school.
Price won the PAC-10 Coach of the Year twice at Washington State, took the Cougars to the Rose Bowl twice, and was named the NCAA Coach of the Year in 1997. No coaching hire at UTEP had ever seemed more like a sure thing. After his first year here, where we almost beat Colorado in the Houston Bowl, it seemed like this belief was justified. But as more of Gary Nord's players graduated, and we had to rely on Price's recruits, the more it became obvious that he wasn't going to be able to truly turn our program around.
I was sitting at my desk at work when I learned that Tim Floyd was hired; my co-workers came rushing to my desk to see if anything was wrong, mistaking my screams of joy for a sign that there was something wrong. Floyd, like Price, seemed like a sure thing, but even more so. Floyd had won at all of his college stops: smaller schools, like Idaho and New Orleans, and bigger schools, like Iowa State and USC. Moreover, he knew how to recruit to El Paso, bringing in many of players that made us so successful in the 80s. UTEP Basketball was certainly on its way back to prominence. Except it wasn't. Floyd, to the dismay of most of us here, never came close to matching the success he had achieved at all of his other college stops.
We could go back and forth, with you giving examples of successful coaches at smaller schools becoming successful at bigger schools, and examples of hot shot assistants flaming out when they got their chance to be a head coach. I could counter with lists of former assistant coaches becoming successful when they got a head gig, and successful head coaches at one school failing when they get a job at a different school.
In the end, I feel that Tang, Golding, and DeVries are all really good options, while Jans and Barbee are solid choices. You believe that Golding is the best choice, DeVries and Jans are really good options, and that hiring Tang is too risky. No matter what, we want the next coach to succeed. Let's hope that Senter makes the right choice.
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Editing to add: whatever you do for a living Miner, I hope it’s something where you get to use your obvious skill of laying out very concise and detailed thoughts/explanations. Your posts are always thorough. Whoever is hired, maybe you could give us a detailed write up on their career, if you had the time!
Well said, terrific write up!
Editing to add: whatever you do for a living Miner, I hope it’s something where you get to use your obvious skill of laying out very concise and detailed thoughts/explanations. Your posts are always thorough. Whoever is hired, maybe you could give us a detailed write up on their career, if you had the time!
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he has been rumored tons of jobs this is me just speculating here but I am thinking he wanted to finish the job with coach drew and now that they won a national title he’s gonna get out on his own.... just makes sense
I am a civilian operations research analyst (read: math geek) for the Air Force. I would love to teach math at a college level, but with my degree the best that I could do would be to teach at a community college, which wouldn't pay the bills as well as the USAF does. Back in the days when newspapers were popular I thought that being the UTEP Basketball beat writer for the Times would be a fun job, but I certainly didn't have the background for that position, and any editor would be a fool to hire me.
Unfortunately I don't think that I would have the time to write up a detailed report of our new coach's career, whomever that turns out to be. The good news is that other posters here have been digging into the main candidates' careers, and I'm sure will share what they've learned. Plus news reports should cover at least the highlights.
Finally, thanks for the compliment.
Maniac, you da man and spot on as you're usually are.
I consider Jans in the "safe hire". I can look past the Covid quarantine debacle because a virus as contagious as Covid f's human daily existence but then again Terry succeeded at containing with no special on site secluded facilities.
Golding historical tenure at ACU speaks for itself. Facts are facts. Obscurity to expediting a Big XII coach transition speaks volumes.
DeVries is the hottest mid major coach out there. If not hired Miner fans will be invoking his name like the days of Bo Pelini before Nord hire because Bo was a young, hot stud assistant D1 coach out there. Some previous old fans on here said he applied for UTEP HC position back then but it was never confirmed.
Tang is from a NC team. How can you not go with that?
Barbee is in Miner fan DNA but the Auburn tenure is a dark shadown on his career. Let's just toast a "Mint Julip" to him and let his 2010 stand as a legacy. Let's let it go.
No, he grew up in Laredo, and is an assistant with the Pacers. Extensive history. Never played basketball, only coached it. Met the guy and he is all class.
Maniac is our Ozzy Osbourne to this bi polar earth bound group of misfits. Don't you steal him away from us!
I'm kidding. He's a good egg.
All of this chatter is fun and entertaining. I have been on the verge of permanently hanging up my pom-poms after all these recent frustrating, horrible, maddening years of watching Terry helplessly and hopelessly suffer defeat after defeat because he wasn't capable of initiating any kind adjustments offensively or defensively to overcome deficits inserted by the opponent. Being out coached when you have superior talent and not utilizing certain players who continue to rot away on the bench plus seeing players regress rather than improve from season to season was the end of the road for me.
Now...there's hope once again. Hallelujah. Thanks to Coach Beard and UT .
Now...there's hope once again. Hallelujah. Thanks to Coach Beard and UT .
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If tang was so good why has he been at Baylor for 2 decades?
I think we are making a huge mistake with tang. Golding, or Jans are better fits.
I think we are making a huge mistake with tang. Golding, or Jans are better fits.
Menzies is absolutely last on my wish list of the possible candidates I've seen.
We already interviewed Barbee, that covers the legalities, why Menzies?
Why are we wasting time?
Because Senter.
Well I am ready to be disappointed now! You watch we will end up with Menzies
Word on the street is Dimel put together his PowerPoint presentation and gave give pointers what to say in the interview.
I do believe you owe me an apology for calling me out on my information. Or I'll take your silence as you already know that you lost this one. Even if Tang is ultimately hired, my info on interviews taking place here in Dallas were spot on.
Hoping Everyone but Menzies uses Canva or at least Prezi then!
Menzies would no doubt be a Senter type “home run” guy, lord help us. Could UTEP do worse? Yes, but with who is out there and possibly interested. You’d be a damn fool, to settle for Menzies.
Hardaway as an assistant could be good, but I'm in the no aggie boat.
No he doesn't. No where did he question your information. His exact words were "way to blow up your source" as in you told us you know all this cuz you know someone from the athletic department. Youve blown your source before too when you said since Kap hadnt text you then the news of Wadley's injury wasnt true.
I'm not
Oh well then I'm sorry I didn't think he meant it like that. So thanks for clarifying Corona my bad. I didn't say who, just I know someone in the department. Also here in Dallas I knew there were interviews scheduled. I have no idea who it'll be, but I do know a decision will be in hand by Monday or Tuesday.
I think we all feel this way. Senter will probably pick him because none of us want him. I have no idea how Doc is being considered as well
I have no idea how these things work but I imagine the more coaches interested and the more people interviewed the more power we have during negotiations.
Kind of true. If you are negotiating with your top choice and can’t come to terms, you’re then settling for 2nd best.
What do you all like about tang so much? 18 years at Baylor, 18?! Prior to that he was a coach at a Pre K - 12 school, waaaay better candidates out there.
