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What has changed in the April 23, 2020 Local Emergency Directive?
  • All persons may leave their residences only to perform certain Essential Activities, to perform work in an Essential Business, Government Service, or in Critical Infrastructure, to engage in Essential Travel or Minimum Basic Operations all as defined herein, or to provide or obtain Retail to Go Services.
  • All persons leaving home must wear a face covering as described when leaving home. Exhibit “B” unless:
    • Alone in a separate single outdoor space, or
    • individuals not of the same household or residence are maintaining consistent separation of six feet or more while engaging in outdoor activity, or
    • in the presence of only other members of one’s household and are maintaining consistent separation of six feet or more from people not of one’s household, or
    • doing so poses a greater mental or physical health, safety or security risk, to person or the public.
  • Social distancing is still required
  • Retail to Go is required to strictly comply with all terms required by the Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) for personal and environment sanitation and, Essential Businesses, CISA defined essential workers, Healthcare Operations, and persons conducting minimum Basic Operations are required to comply with the first section of the DSHS guidance . Exhibit “A”
  • Per Governor Abbott’s most recent orders, previously non-essential businesses, may now reopen to provide “retail to go”.
  • Walking paths adjacent to a street, park or within a park are now open
  • Integrate the Governor’s GA-15 April, 17 Order as to Healthcare Operations
  • The Enforcement Section is now changed to allow both Class B and Class C Misdemeanors. It becomes a Class B Misdemeanor if someone had been previously warned or cited.
  • There is no longer a required self-quarantine if a person travels more than 100 miles.
  • Attached as Exhibit A is the Texas Health & Human Services COVID-19 Guidance for Employers, Employers, etc. & Exhibit B are Face Covering Requirements.
  • Only one member of a household can enter stores that sell groceries and certain other essential supplies, unless an individual is handicapped and requires assistance or is a parent of a child for whom there is no alternate care.
  • All public facilities providing groceries, home improvement items, animal and household supplies, or pharmaceutical supplies must
    • provide hand sanitizer at all entry points
    • provide a process to ensure sanitized wipe down of all handles for grocery carts and baskets at all customer entry points,
    • enact and ensure social distancing for all customers at entry points, checkout lines and all other areas both inside and outside the facility at all times including prior to opening times, and
    • post a list of all reasonable limits of purchase at all entry points.
 
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My son works at Albertsons in Redd and I went to drop him off. I passed by Lowes and people are parking at Applebees to shop at Lowes. Very few people are quarantined anymore. I took I 10 to Artcraft to go back home, the Marketplace is even crazier
 
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My son works at Albertsons in Redd and I went to drop him off. I passed by Lowes and people are parking at Applebees to shop at Lowes. Very few people are quarantined anymore. I took I 10 to Artcraft to go back home, the Marketplace is even crazier
I think its basically the groceries stores and Lowes/Home Depot. Never seen them so busy.
 
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Nothing to do but eat and work on your house. I have believed the stores did this backwards. Instead of expanding the hours they shortened them causing a greater concentration. There were people who would shop in the middle of the night now forced to shop with everyone else.
 
It looks like its BLACK FRIDAY out there today. Unreal. F it. Let's just go back to normal.

I’m sure there are a lot of people with $1,200.00 burning a hole in their pocket.

2 questions: Does the state shut down again if there is a massive uptick in cases? And does anyone on this board know anyone who works in the medical field because I would love to know what they think about this whole situation.
 
I’m sure there are a lot of people with $1,200.00 burning a hole in their pocket.

2 questions: Does the state shut down again if there is a massive uptick in cases? And does anyone on this board know anyone who works in the medical field because I would love to know what they think about this whole situation.
Yes and Yes.

EP is actually doing fine in regards to rate of infection and not overwhelming the hospitals, but I think this has tricked people into being defiant. That and being bored or not able to make money. We as a city have not hit the top of our curve and we have not even tested 5% of the population, let alone the wild card population across the border in Juarez.

Without routine testing available for active disease and/or immunity its going to be difficult to estimate a time frame for normalcy without a vaccine. Things can change quick. Our benefit has been a more wide spread and less dense population along with less travel. We do however have a big population and there are still a ton of people at risk within the city. There are probably a lot more asymptomatic positive cases than we know, but the virus has not run though the population yet as far as we know either.

I understand people need to work, but it is strongly recommended that we continue social distancing and standard precautions/mask wearing. Don't do anything you don't need to do.

In regards to treating COVID, there is still nothing proven. Nobody is using hydroxychloroquine anymore. Azithromycin is only being used for suspected superimposed community acquired pneumonia based on specific blood tests and exam. Some are now using interleukin-6 antagonists and some are using steriods (which initially was thought to be contraindicated). There are a lot of blood clotting associated illnesses being found in COViD positive patients and apparently on autopsies being done in Italy.

Most people that die are still fitting into the category of >65 and/or comorbid illnesses, but have had some die that were otherwise more healthy or young around the world.

Testing turnaround is quicker now in the hospitals where I work. 90 minutes from lab to result. That has helped a lot. This is not the same turnaround for the county. I also understand that Quest lab has a serum immunity test for IGG. It can be requested, but you have to qualify via questionnaire and its something like $120.

Any other specific questions please feel free to ask me and I will do my best to answer.
 
Yes and Yes.

EP is actually doing fine in regards to rate of infection and not overwhelming the hospitals, but I think this has tricked people into being defiant. That and being bored or not able to make money. We as a city have not hit the top of our curve and we have not even tested 5% of the population, let alone the wild card population across the border in Juarez.

Without routine testing available for active disease and/or immunity its going to be difficult to estimate a time frame for normalcy without a vaccine. Things can change quick. Our benefit has been a more wide spread and less dense population along with less travel. We do however have a big population and there are still a ton of people at risk within the city. There are probably a lot more asymptomatic positive cases than we know, but the virus has not run though the population yet as far as we know either.

I understand people need to work, but it is strongly recommended that we continue social distancing and standard precautions/mask wearing. Don't do anything you don't need to do.

In regards to treating COVID, there is still nothing proven. Nobody is using hydroxychloroquine anymore. Azithromycin is only being used for suspected superimposed community acquired pneumonia based on specific blood tests and exam. Some are now using interleukin-6 antagonists and some are using steriods (which initially was thought to be contraindicated). There are a lot of blood clotting associated illnesses being found in COViD positive patients and apparently on autopsies being done in Italy.

Most people that die are still fitting into the category of >65 and/or comorbid illnesses, but have had some die that were otherwise more healthy or young around the world.

Testing turnaround is quicker now in the hospitals where I work. 90 minutes from lab to result. That has helped a lot. This is not the same turnaround for the county. I also understand that Quest lab has a serum immunity test for IGG. It can be requested, but you have to qualify via questionnaire and its something like $120.

Any other specific questions please feel free to ask me and I will do my best to answer.

Thanks for the insight. I am no politician nor an I an economist or medical professional but I would hate for our hospitals to be overrun because we just can’t take being at home anymore. On the other hand I am sure there is a lot of reasons to get people back to work, mainly because the longer we hold out the more companies go under, and the amount of money this is costing the country in terms of stimulus payments and unemployment benefits is astronomical.
 
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For 4th straight day, Texas surpasses 1,000 new virus cases
Associated Press
Published 11:16 AM MDT
Updated 4:51 PM MDT


AUSTIN, Texas — The number of new confirmed coronavirus cases in Texas surpassed 1,000 for the fourth consecutive day on Sunday and the number of deaths increased by at least 20.

State health officials reported 31,548 confirmed cases, and increase from 30,522 reported Saturday, and 867 deaths due to Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus.

The number of infections is thought to be far higher because many people haven’t been tested and studies suggest that people can be infected without showing symptoms.

This weekend is the first of the state's re-opening the economy after Gov. Greg Abbott’s statewide “stay at home” order for nearly 30 million people expired on Friday.

Residents were allowed to go back to malls, restaurants, movie theaters and retail stores in limited numbers, although some protests of the closings

 
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Chinese flooded into California like a tsunami. China lied thru their fanny and Trump treated it like the common flu bug after repeated briefings that China was lying about #'s and containment and this was mutated SARS virus and there was no treatment known nor any vaccine.
 
Isnt 3 deaths per 100,000 better than 5 deaths per 100,000?

Asking for a friend.

California has more cases, more deaths, more deaths and cases per capita than Texas. But California did everything right and Texas did everything wrong?

Maybe shutting down everything isnt going to give you much different results.
 
Isnt 3 deaths per 100,000 better than 5 deaths per 100,000?

Asking for a friend.

California has more cases, more deaths, more deaths and cases per capita than Texas. But California did everything right and Texas did everything wrong?

Maybe shutting down everything isnt going to give you much different results.

3 deaths per person who lives in the state is not the same thing as 3 deaths per person who tests positive. That is the point Mr. Fools is making and he is correct.
 
Isnt 3 deaths per 100,000 better than 5 deaths per 100,000?

Asking for a friend.

California has more cases, more deaths, more deaths and cases per capita than Texas. But California did everything right and Texas did everything wrong?

Maybe shutting down everything isnt going to give you much different results.
Like I said. I hit California first. Due to the geographical distance. It's not like it hit the same places at the same time.

California is in 4th quarter of this bs. Texas is in the 2nd or 3rd quarter of this.

Again, premature to compare the two places today. But we'll see.
 
I dont think it matters. We've been shutdown since mid march. Seems to me like it's more of an issue of people being compliant or not. At this point, if shutting down for 45-60 days for a 14 day disease didnt work, then 90 days or 120 days isnt going to be any better. Every state has had varying degrees of shutdowns and no state has 'won.' In fact, some places got worse during quarantines like Gallup, NM.

The issue isnt what this party or that party did, its whether or not the citizens complied.
 
Heard that the counts were off recently because they were only counting the county test and not private test. So that's the reason for the rise. Is that true?
 
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