Who do you want as UTEP OC and DC
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Empanada order still stands if we can drop the Briles-never-gonna-happen candidacy.
Now as for Yost, I hope that goes from pipe dream to possibility because he will have this offense clicking on all cylinders.
Do you think Yost would be allowed to run the offense the way he wants? If not, it's probably best they just promote someone on the staff nd ride the contract out till the next head guy comes in.
It would be exciting though if they did hire Yost and let him do his thing though!
Do we even need an OC. What exactly is his job? Let’s save the 200k and use it at the end of next year to buy out Dimel.
Okay, bottom line? We have as much chance of signing Jerry Sandusky or even Joe Paterno as Art Briles.
Let’s face it, Dimel is going to hire a puppet who is going to be forced to play in Dimel’s sandbox with Dimels rules. This doesn’t sound too encouraging to me unless Senter has demanded that Dimel forfeit control of the offense.
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It will be really interesting to see what direction they go with this because it cannot be very appealing for a coordinator to come in there knowing he’s not free to do his job. One thing is for sure, Dimel has no more scapegoat. If he can’t get things going I’m afraid he’s next.
We will never know but I really do believe Senter was upset a Dimel because he blew a great, great opportunity to get to a bowl because of Covid 19 and Dimel basically blew it, even with a diminished secondary going into UNT game. UNT was not a good team this year and had just one playmaker. My god, Brownholtz busted a long run for six on them!
Something had to give and Canales and Cox are Google Doc'ing their resume all over. This opportunity will not be around next fall for Dimel. Teams and staff should be vaccinated by September and while in person fans may still be limited, the regular OOC and IC format and qualifications for bowls will resume to preCovid 19 rules most likely.
Yes but a bad year and he could be done next year. The candidates will certainly have strong ties to Dimel. Most know this is a sinking ship. It will remove a lot of quality candidates from applying.
I have a feeling DD will get both years. Any OC and DC are going to want that two year “guarantee”. In this day and age of coaching, get rid of Dimel and you gotta buyout not only him but his whole staff, or damn near all of it. Just a gut feeling.
I totally agree. Senter saved his fanny as well because by the end of next November he will be explaining on the radio that "yes, it wasn't the year we anticpated"....blah, blah, blah..."but we have to give the top assistants time to implement their schemes".
Yeah and thats what I hate about coaching changes. HC changes are even worse since new HC's always come in with at least a 4 or 5 year plan. I honestly don't care what the coaches name is but create some damn excitement for the program.
We finished with the 102nd ranked total offense this year. Dimel obviously needs to let go of the offense, but there are a couple of indications that seem to show that he is not going to do that:
1.) His only signee thus far is a JC running QB with poor passing numbers who also spent time playing LB. Basically, it looks like he would only have a chance to be effective in Dimel's QB run offense. Why waste 1 of only 10 or 11 scholarships on a QB that only fits one system, unless you are planning on keeping that system.
2.) Dimel has still kept a number of his offensive coaches. Is a new coordinator going to be told that he has to keep these guys who were retained, including an O-line coach who has been coaching Dimel's run schemes for 3 years.
My guess is that a.) Dimel already had his new coordinators in mind when he made the change and b.) we probably aren't going to get much change with whoever he brings in as the OC.
1.) His only signee thus far is a JC running QB with poor passing numbers who also spent time playing LB. Basically, it looks like he would only have a chance to be effective in Dimel's QB run offense. Why waste 1 of only 10 or 11 scholarships on a QB that only fits one system, unless you are planning on keeping that system.
2.) Dimel has still kept a number of his offensive coaches. Is a new coordinator going to be told that he has to keep these guys who were retained, including an O-line coach who has been coaching Dimel's run schemes for 3 years.
My guess is that a.) Dimel already had his new coordinators in mind when he made the change and b.) we probably aren't going to get much change with whoever he brings in as the OC.
So why bother changing the offensive coordinator? Unless he is thinking of being both HC and OC which is not unprecedented.
Banking on the idea that we only get a certain amount granted in a lifetime, and that we are forever cursed as UTEP fans, I’ve stopped wasting my wishes on the departure of UTEP coaches. Well...I’m trying to convince myself of that anyway.
I’m certain that Dimel will be afforded his full allotment of time in EP. Watch him win 6 games his 5th year and go bowling, with an upperclassmen laden squad, and get a ****ing extension. I can envision it now.
You could be right, but at the same time no one can guarantee Dimel will finish his contract, not even Senter. Next year could be another winless year and he could get the axe for all we know. I am not sure what type of coach we’re going to get but that profession is so cut throat and I bet there are a lot of guys out of jobs that there will be guys jumping at the chance to have a 200k a year job, even if it is for 2 years.
That’s my point. They’ll get a two year contract. If Dimel gets the axe after next year, so will the newly hired OC and DC. If they all get the axe, that’s a lot of money (for UTEP) for buyouts, especially when we’ll have to turn right back around and hire a whole new staff. That makes me think, regardless of his year next season, Dimel will get a 5th. Hope I’m wrong.
Just read that Yost was making $600,000 as the TT OC and had a 3 yr contract. He has a yr left and I have no idea what his buyout was. If hired at UTEP for approx $200,000 then it might be $800,000 for 1 year as our OC. Or not since I really don't know his situation.Empanada order still stands if we can drop the Briles-never-gonna-happen candidacy.
Now as for Yost, I hope that goes from pipe dream to possibility because he will have this offense clicking on all cylinders.
At what point does UTEP stop the madness and either find the funds to put football on solid ground or decide they are throwing good money after bad and just quit. I hope the latter never happens but UTEP needs to get serious and get all those 40k plus interested again.
Just read that Eric Price wants to be an OC again. He works for the NFL Jaguars as an offense researcher and from what I can see he is probably making between 100k and 200k. He was successful as UTEP's OC when working for his dad. Anyone think he would be a good hire?
No. Pops handed him the reigns "a todo" as they say in Spanish, towards the end of his tenure and it didn't go well. Posters on here were even guessing which plays he would call, he was becoming that predictable.
Actually Eric was the OC for his dads 1st 4 seasons and the offense was good. Defense not so much. Then Connelly was OC for a while I believe and then Aaron Price was made OC for dads last season at UTEP and the offense was not good.
Eric Price profile: Jags
Eric was the OC the first 4 years. He’s got some NFL experience but every other job he’s had has been meh. He’s probably more suited for an offense that’s throwing downfield and that’s not what Dimel runs here so it would probably go bad here. I don’t know if we have the personnel to run a 2006 type of UTEP offense.
I have no idea if there would be mutual interest between Dimel and Eric Price but I wonder if Dimel is ready to give the offense over to an OC since he has to know that next season is make or break for his job. He may really believe, right or wrong, that his team will make enough progress to go bowling next season in which case, why get rid of his coordinators.
Well the F+ ratings have been updated now and ULM's offense is just below UTEP's. Yippee!
Honestly, UTEP proved itself to be a much better team than ULM head to head. That tells you all you need to know about the value of the F+ system.
I wonder how much that has to do with sos. We played 2 teams that finished with a winning record. They played 7/10 games vs teams with a winning record. I bet if we compare fbs teams only, their offense is better than ours.
I bet if the teams played each other, UTEP's offense (as bad as it is) would be better than theirs. Oh wait, they did play each other.... 31-6.
Staying with the Jags as they get ready for Trevor Lawrence could be rewarding for anyone within the organization.
how funny would that be if Trevor Lawrence decided to come back for his senior year! 🤣
We must be waiting for the final 4 teams to finish
We don't even get rumors from our EP sports media so I'll throw this against the wall and see if it sticks.
Collin Klein, former Kansas St QB (Heisman finalist in 2012) and now in his 4th season as the QB coach at K St, helped install the new offense after Dimel's departure.
Collin Klein, former Kansas St QB (Heisman finalist in 2012) and now in his 4th season as the QB coach at K St, helped install the new offense after Dimel's departure.
I know this is wishful thinking and we don’t have an opening yet, but a guy I’d like to see as our next HC is Andy Avalos. Avalos is the DC at Oregon and is an up an coming young coach. He played college ball at Boise St and is originally from Cali. Avalos would be able to bring energy and new blood to a program that’s been stagnant for several years. Avalos’ California and west coast connections would also benefit UTEP In recruiting. I think UTEP would be able to afford him since he made $815,000 last year and will make $865,000 in 2021. I’m sure Avalos is ready to be a head coach soon and be the architect of his own program. I hope he’s still available by the time UTEP’s head coaching job becomes available.
