OT: Ominous Vibe

[kickballpro]

Protests and terrorism (racist POS white nationalists) committing mass murders are entirely polar opposites. If you can't see that there's no point. If tacitly stoking bigots into mass murders is not a bad thing then I don't know what is.

I am just curious. Do you really think this was legal and not already against the law?

DHS, FBI, and DOJ already have departments that specifically Target this issue.

Why is it wrong to have a Muslim Travel Ban? Because it is wrong. I did not like Trump's actions on this. Why is it wrong to say Mexicans are rapist? Because its wrong.

Even many Democrats in Chamber said "we need to have a Bill that counters domestic terrorism but does not Profile any race." Even Democrats behind closed doors said this Bill was wrong.

The Domestic Terrorism Act of 2020 Already passed into Law. We do not need a Tucker Carlson Free Speech Bill.

 

[develman]

If tacitly stoking bigots into mass murders is not a bad thing then I don't know what is.

 

[kickballpro]

If tacitly stoking bigots into mass murders is not a bad thing then I don't know what is.

I agree 100%, that's why its against the law already. Just because you watch Maddow or read a twitter thread, doesn't mean you're informed.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

Just a question......why wasn't anyone involved in the blm riots arrested and prosecuted? Why weren't democrats saying stop it to the rioters?

Let me be perfectly clear though.....ANYONE that targets a specific race and murders them MUST be put to death and their name NEVER mentioned in the media.

 

[develman]

Just a question......why wasn't anyone involved in the blm riots arrested and prosecuted? Why weren't democrats saying stop it to the rioters?

This is just not true. Protesters get arrested all the time, suffice to say rioters do as well. Some riots are cool though? Like after a Super Bowl or NBA or NHL championship. Hardly anyone gets up in arms over those. But when it's black people rioting because unarmed black men get shot by police, man does whitey get mad. If black people are seen looting, man do they shit their pants over that, how dare they get away with stealing stuff, shoot them on-site(New Orleans).

 

[UTEPfan1966]

This is just not true. Protesters get arrested all the time, suffice to say rioters do as well. Some riots are cool though? Like after a Super Bowl or NBA or NHL championship. Hardly anyone gets up in arms over those. But when it's black people rioting because unarmed black men get shot by police, man does whitey get mad. If black people are seen looting, man do they shit their pants over that, how dare they get away with stealing stuff, shoot them on-site(New Orleans).

This is quite possibly the most ignorant post you've made. Go ahead, dude, take shit out of context.
I NEVER said celebrating is an excuse to break shit. However, how is it a black man in Minnesota is wrongfully killed and it's ok to burn down Portland Oregon? Steal shit from small business owners in Washington? It's NOT even in your city!
Idiots broke into the capital and they are going after them. Shit, they blame Trump! Why aren't they blaming ALL democrats for NOT condemning the blm riots as well?

Not a level playing field....ALL idiots must be punished equally. Period.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

This is just not true. Protesters get arrested all the time, suffice to say rioters do as well. Some riots are cool though? Like after a Super Bowl or NBA or NHL championship. Hardly anyone gets up in arms over those. But when it's black people rioting because unarmed black men get shot by police, man does whitey get mad. If black people are seen looting, man do they shit their pants over that, how dare they get away with stealing stuff, shoot them on-site(New Orleans).

Not true. Do you think Utep1966 would “let it go” if the White Man Militia came in and busted up his stuff? He wouldn’t call the cops and press charges? Maybe he will respond and let us know.

While wrong, championship celebrations do not usually involved mass looting. Mainly destruction and mass gatherings, where people are happy. Doesn’t make them right and if your car was busted up, you probably wouldn’t be too thrilled about it either.

No intelligent, non-biased person thinks rioting is okay. If you defend Jan 6th, then you’re just as dumb as the people who stormed the capital or looted In Minneapolis.

I bet a lot of white people get upset when they see black people looting. If and when a bunch of whites go and loot stores, you won’t see any intelligent people cheering them on.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

This is just not true. Protesters get arrested all the time, suffice to say rioters do as well. Some riots are cool though? Like after a Super Bowl or NBA or NHL championship. Hardly anyone gets up in arms over those. But when it's black people rioting because unarmed black men get shot by police, man does whitey get mad. If black people are seen looting, man do they shit their pants over that, how dare they get away with stealing stuff, shoot them on-site(New Orleans).

Who? When? Link?

 

[UTEPfan1966]

Not true. Do you think Utep1966 would “let it go” if the White Man Militia came in and busted up his stuff? He wouldn’t call the cops and press charges? Maybe he will respond and let us know.

While wrong, championship celebrations do not usually involved mass looting. Mainly destruction and mass gatherings, where people are happy. Doesn’t make them right and if your car was busted up, you probably wouldn’t be too thrilled about it either.

No intelligent, non-biased person thinks rioting is okay. If you defend Jan 6th, then you’re just as dumb as the people who stormed the capital or looted In Minneapolis.

I bet a lot of white people get upset when they see black people looting. If and when a bunch of whites go and loot stores, you won’t see any intelligent people cheering them on.

Shit, I agree with you!

I will say this, you try breaking into to my business or home, God be with you, black, white, mexican....Don't give a shit if you are pissed/happy about anything, period.

 

[kickballpro]

I'm sure there will be another Bill proposed that blames someone else.

 

[develman]

This is quite possibly the most ignorant post you've made. Go ahead, dude, take shit out of context.
I NEVER said celebrating is an excuse to break shit. However, how is it a black man in Minnesota is wrongfully killed and it's ok to burn down Portland Oregon? Steal shit from small business owners in Washington? It's NOT even in your city!
Idiots broke into the capital and they are going after them. Shit, they blame Trump! Why aren't they blaming ALL democrats for NOT condemning the blm riots as well?

Not a level playing field....ALL idiots must be punished equally. Period.

Imagine that "they" blame a shit-stirrer? Color me surprised.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

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I'm sure there will be another Bill proposed that blames someone else.

It's Trump's fault.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

Shit, I agree with you!

I will say this, you try breaking into to my business or home, God be with you, black, white, mexican....Don't give a shit if you are pissed/happy about anything, period.

Of course and I would think “MOST” stable people without an “agenda” feel similar. People just play the race card too often.

Let’s see some white guys looting Target and see what happens. Biased people will think the police will be out there helping them and not doing anything about it.

 

[develman]

Who? When? Link?

Look it up there are literally hundreds of people arrested not even for rioting just protesting. Protesting and rioting are two different things, hope you're not conflating the two.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

Of course and I would think “MOST” stable people without an “agenda” feel similar. People just play the race card too often.

Let’s see some white guys looting Target and see what happens. Biased people will think the police will be out there helping them and not doing anything about it.

LOL I would shoot dem bitches too! You ain't taken my shit without a fight.....

 

[develman]

While wrong, championship celebrations do not usually involved mass looting. Mainly destruction and mass gatherings, where people are happy. Doesn’t make them right and if your car was busted up, you probably wouldn’t be too thrilled about it either.

Neither do protests.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

It's Trump's fault.

If you want to blame Trump or Biden for that, that’s fine, your opinion.

However, I really don’t think any President purposely wants the stock market to crash. Or have people pay $5 a gallon for gas. Why would you bring on “suffering” on purpose? What does that accomplish? Why would you basically tank your own re-election and probably your own party’s?

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

Neither do protests.

Right. Most protests are peaceful. If they deviate from that, they become something else.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

Look it up there are literally hundreds of people arrested not even for rioting just protesting. Protesting and rioting are two different things, hope you're not conflating the twIt's simply bro.

Look it up there are literally hundreds of people arrested not even for rioting just protesting. Protesting and rioting are two different things, hope you're not conflating the two.

It's simple, bro....you break into a store, steal shit, burn the place.....go rot in jail.
How long did the stupidity go on in Portland? Didn't the idiotic democrat leadership just "tolerate" it? THOUSANDS participated. Not ONE democrat spoke against it.
Good lord man....

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

It's simple, bro....you break into a store, steal shit, burn the place.....go rot in jail.
How long did the stupidity go on in Portland? Didn't the idiotic democrat leadership just "tolerate" it? THOUSANDS participated. Not ONE democrat spoke against it.
Good lord man....

And the things in Seattle and Portland were with mostly white people.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

If you want to blame Trump or Biden for that, that’s fine, your opinion.

However, I really don’t think any President purposely wants the stock market to crash. Or have people pay $5 a gallon for gas. Why would you bring on “suffering” on purpose? What does that accomplish? Why would you basically yank your own re-election and probably your own party’s?

Sorry....guess you missed the eyeroll.....sarcasm....

I "feel" this administration wants the oil industry to fail to push alternative energy sources, like overnight.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

And the things in Seattle and Portland were with mostly white people.

Maybe the population is predominately white? Either way, THEY need to be in jail.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

Sorry....guess you missed the eyeroll.....sarcasm....

I "feel" this administration wants the oil industry to fail to push alternative energy sources, like overnight.

Not really directed towards you specifically. Generally speaking

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

Maybe the population is predominately white? Either way, THEY need to be in jail.

Well yeah, I agree. They should be. To develman’s point. “We” just don’t get upset when blacks are doing it. Again, most people get upset when anyone does it.

 

[develman]

It's simple, bro....you break into a store, steal shit, burn the place.....go rot in jail.
How long did the stupidity go on in Portland? Didn't the idiotic democrat leadership just "tolerate" it? THOUSANDS participated. Not ONE democrat spoke against it.
Good lord man....

And thousands were arrested. So? I bet if I bothered to look there were many democratic politicians against "it". Not the protesting the rioting.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

And thousands were arrested. So? I bet if I bothered to look there were many democratic politicians against "it". Not the protesting the rioting.

Funny.....that wasn't on the news......is this fact or a guess?
NOT ONE DEMOCRATIC POLITICIAN CAME OUT AGAINST THE RIOTS.
It was "we must change the culture" "I understand people being upset"......

Be upset .....people are human....we ALL make mistakes....we don't ALL destroy shit and steal. A dude gets killed doesn't mean you get a free TV bro...

 

[kickballpro]

Well yeah, I agree. They should be. To develman’s point. “We” just don’t get upset when blacks are doing it. Again, most people get upset when anyone does it.

I don't disagree with develman either. I just think that the Bills proposed were nonsense. A Bill tio give 28 Million to the FDA in Salaries???

You pay and FDA employee an extra $200 a month and now their going to do their job better.

You passed a Bipartisan Terrorist Bill in 2020 and now you're going to try and pass the exact same legislation but spend additional $105 Million on Monitoring Conservative Speech?

You pass a Price Gouging law against Oil Companies when Price Gouging is already illegal?

You can't keep messing up and then blame Trump and then Pass a Bill saying you're fixing everything someone else messed up while I was in Charge.

 

[FeralFelidae]

Right. Most protests are peaceful.

Sorry, I can't help it.

 

[axingfools1]

This is just not true. Protesters get arrested all the time, suffice to say rioters do as well. Some riots are cool though? Like after a Super Bowl or NBA or NHL championship. Hardly anyone gets up in arms over those. But when it's black people rioting because unarmed black men get shot by police, man does whitey get mad. If black people are seen looting, man do they shit their pants over that, how dare they get away with stealing stuff, shoot them on-site(New Orleans).

Hmmm. I lost interest there.

 

[UTEPfan1966]

I don't disagree with develman either. I just think that the Bills proposed were nonsense. A Bill tio give 28 Million to the FDA in Salaries???

You pay and FDA employee an extra $200 a month and now their going to do their job better.

You passed a Bipartisan Terrorist Bill in 2020 and now you're going to try and pass the exact same legislation but spend additional $105 Million on Monitoring Conservative Speech?

You pass a Price Gouging law against Oil Companies when Price Gouging is already illegal?

You can't keep messing up and then blame Trump and then Pass a Bill saying you're fixing everything someone else messed up while I was in Charge.

Very good points. I often wonder why ALL bills are loaded with extra BS instead of just focusing on the issue at hand..

 

[develman]

Funny.....that wasn't on the news......is this fact or a guess?
NOT ONE DEMOCRATIC POLITICIAN CAME OUT AGAINST THE RIOTS.
It was "we must change the culture" "I understand people being upset"......

Be upset .....people are human....we ALL make mistakes....we don't ALL destroy shit and steal. A dude gets killed doesn't mean you get a free TV bro...

You ignored the part of thousands were arrested, whatever. People (rich people) get a lot of free shit all the time.

P.S. A lot of people got a free TV, deal with it or does it personally hurt you?

 

[UTEPfan1966]

You ignored the part of thousands were arrested, whatever. People (rich people) get a lot of free shit all the time.

P.S. A lot of people got a free TV, deal with it or does it personally hurt you?

My statement stands.....Where's the link to "thousands" were arrested. Didn't see that on the news, did you? If they WERE arrested, why did they occupy Portland for months on end? Did the democratic leadership in that stupid city EVER come out and tell them to stop? Of course not. El Paso would do nothing as well.

A LOT of people got a free tv? By STEALING it? You are ok with that? If you owned a shop and I walked in and took a TV without paying, you ok with that? Shit bro, what's your address? My son needs a TV.

Look, your warped sense of reality is baffling. Take ONE effing beer from me and Ill woop yo ass. Sue me....good luck.

 

[Playmaker8832]

I have sat back and watched you all ignorantly sling shit back and forth on this... I just have ONE question...

Do you not see something wrong with police killing unarmed minorities because they THOUGHT or suspected they had a weapon, but when A WHITE person who HAS A GUN and KILLED continue to be taken alive. See: El Paso, TX Cielo Vista area August 3rd, 2019.

All the while - they are called "troubled" or "mentally ill". You can get all pissy and have a problem with race being brought into it but the fact is it's there - and it's being brought into it by the wonderful police departments who decide to be judge, jury, and executioner to minorities - while taking these white mass murderers to Burger King. FOH

After it happens time and time and TIME again WITHOUT justice you don't expect black folks to be mad and tear shit up? Really? You pansy asses can't even take it when someone disagrees with YOUR political views.

 

[develman]

My statement stands.....Where's the link to "thousands" were arrested. Didn't see that on the news, did you? If they WERE arrested, why did they occupy Portland for months on end? Did the democratic leadership in that stupid city EVER come out and tell them to stop? Of course not. El Paso would do nothing as well.

A LOT of people got a free tv? By STEALING it? You are ok with that? If you owned a shop and I walked in and took a TV without paying, you ok with that? Shit bro, what's your address? My son needs a TV.

Look, your warped sense of reality is baffling. Take ONE effing beer from me and Ill woop yo ass. Sue me....good luck.

So it personally hurt you, I see.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

I have sat back and watched you all ignorantly sling shit back and forth on this... I just have ONE question...

Do you not see something wrong with police killing unarmed minorities because they THOUGHT or suspected they had a weapon, but when A WHITE person who HAS A GUN and KILLED continue to be taken alive. See: El Paso, TX Cielo Vista area August 3rd, 2019.

All the while - they are called "troubled" or "mentally ill". You can get all pissy and have a problem with race being brought into it but the fact is it's there - and it's being brought into it by the wonderful police departments who decide to be judge, jury, and executioner to minorities - while taking these white mass murderers to Burger King. FOH

After it happens time and time and TIME again WITHOUT justice you don't expect black folks to be mad and tear shit up? Really? You pansy asses can't even take it when someone disagrees with YOUR political views.

Apples to oranges.

How many black guys are doing mass shootings? You think if the WalMart guy was black, he would have been shot by the almost entirely minority filled EPPD?

I don’t think anyone here is defending anyone getting wrongly killed by police.

 

[develman]

Apples to oranges.

How many black guys are doing mass shootings? You think if the WalMart guy was black, he would have been shot by the almost entirely minority filled EPPD?

I don’t think anyone here is defending anyone getting wrongly killed by police.

You seem to think the bias only goes one way.

 

[kickballpro]

After it happens time and time and TIME again WITHOUT justice you don't expect black folks to be mad and tear shit up? Really? You pansy asses can't even take it when someone disagrees with YOUR political views.

There has never been a mass shooting or a police shooting in which there was no justice. May have been a crappy outcome or unfair outcome. But Justice isn't only verdicts you agree with.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

You seem to think the bias only goes one way.

I do? How so?

 

[UTEPfan1966]

I have sat back and watched you all ignorantly sling shit back and forth on this... I just have ONE question...

Do you not see something wrong with police killing unarmed minorities because they THOUGHT or suspected they had a weapon, but when A WHITE person who HAS A GUN and KILLED continue to be taken alive. See: El Paso, TX Cielo Vista area August 3rd, 2019.

All the while - they are called "troubled" or "mentally ill". You can get all pissy and have a problem with race being brought into it but the fact is it's there - and it's being brought into it by the wonderful police departments who decide to be judge, jury, and executioner to minorities - while taking these white mass murderers to Burger King. FOH

Bruh, I have a problem with ALL THIS SHIT. Problem is TOO many focus on race. White racists are an issue, however, they are not the majority. Look at all the black on black crime across the country. Idiot rednecks thinking stupid shit and shooting people. TOO much divisiveness in the last 3 years. I grew up in northeast hangin with all all my homies. All of a sudden, the brothas I grew up with claim they were treated like slaves and lesser than equal people. Not sure how their lives changed when they were royalty growing up. We hung out together!!!! If anything, I was treated like shit because I wasn't a jock.

At some point we gotta stop this stupid shit.......

 

[UTEPfan1966]

There has never been a mass shooting or a police shooting in which there was no justice. May have been a crappy outcome or unfair outcome. But Justice isn't only verdicts you agree with.

Well said buddy