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Who Does CUSA Add?

Missouri St would be a good add. CUSA is not bringing fbs schools in and I thought we all understood that the conference is in survival mode meaning fcs schools plus NMSU are all there is. Missouri St basketball is much better than FIU, FAU, UTSA, USM and during non covid years they have actual fans that are passionate for their team.
 
Missouri St would be a good add. CUSA is not bringing fbs schools in and I thought we all understood that the conference is in survival mode meaning fcs schools plus NMSU are all there is. Missouri St basketball is much better than FIU, FAU, UTSA, USM and during non covid years they have actual fans that are passionate for their team.
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NAU and Eastern Washington aren’t leaving their current conference for that.

ESPN Deportes isn’t giving UTEP a deal. Spanish speaking El Pasoans and Juarez, don’t give a crap about UTEP, the rest of the country won’t either.
People in Mexico don't follow college football in general, they follow the NFL. But I don't agree with speaking spanish El Pasoans or Juarenses not giving a crap about UTEP.
 
You're both geniuses. New Conference for UTEP. If Senter doesn't make this happen we should drop football.

UTEP
NMSU
UNM
Texas Tech
Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
Air Force
Colorado St

Reduced travel and teams we can get excited about. I don't understand why this isn't our conference already. Makes no sense.
Once upon a time, long, long ago, that was (pretty much) a reality. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Conference
 
You're both geniuses. New Conference for UTEP. If Senter doesn't make this happen we should drop football.

UTEP
NMSU
UNM
Texas Tech
Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
Air Force
Colorado St

Reduced travel and teams we can get excited about. I don't understand why this isn't our conference already. Makes no sense.

Your respectfulness aside, that would be a pretty amazing conference. Of course, we all know that can exist only in a parallel universe because it will never happen in this one. Still, it would be amazing. Add in Wyoming for a 10-team, BYU and Utah for a 12-team conference that would be even more amazing.

Nice to dream on occasion. Rather dream about this than the nightmare of UTEP in a conference with UMass and UConn. I mean, who really wants to be in that disaster of a conference?
 
Has anyone looked at Sam Houston’s attendance? They’ve won 16 in a row, ranked #1, and defending National Champions, 7,559 at their last home. Their first home game, coming off a dominating performance on the road and the national title? 7,728.

How can a good team like that, not even get 10,000 for their games? Suddenly this is a FBS caliber school? How do you expect them to get the “magical” 15k in FBS? I guess double the fans will start coming when the big boys of FBS, UTEP and NMSU come to town!
 
Your respectfulness aside, that would be a pretty amazing conference. Of course, we all know that can exist only in a parallel universe because it will never happen in this one. Still, it would be amazing. Add in Wyoming for a 10-team, BYU and Utah for a 12-team conference that would be even more amazing.

Nice to dream on occasion. Rather dream about this than the nightmare of UTEP in a conference with UMass and UConn. I mean, who really wants to be in that disaster of a conference?
UCONN and UMASS in CUSA is also a dream.

Your suggestions of dropping to FCS and playing in a regional conference are coming true. I'm not sure why you're calling it a nightmare.
 
Has anyone looked at Sam Houston’s attendance? They’ve won 16 in a row, ranked #1, and defending National Champions, 7,559 at their last home. Their first home game, coming off a dominating performance on the road and the national title? 7,728.

How can a good team like that, not even get 10,000 for their games? Suddenly this is a FBS caliber school? How do you expect them to get the “magical” 15k in FBS? I guess double the fans will start coming when the big boys of FBS, UTEP and NMSU come to town!
I thought you called someone's article full of shit for bringing up that rule.

Anyways, probably the same way Charlotte averaged 12k in 2017, 11k in 2018, 12k in 2019, are currently averaging 12,600 and are now headed to the AAC.
 
I thought you called someone's article full of shit for bringing up that rule.

Anyways, probably the same way Charlotte averaged 12k in 2017, 11k in 2018, 12k in 2019, are currently averaging 12,600 and are now headed to the AAC.
Yep. Our best case scenario is eventually a few teams leave the MWC and they need to pick up regional teams. We just need to sustain some success.
 
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I thought you called someone's article full of shit for bringing up that rule.

Anyways, probably the same way Charlotte averaged 12k in 2017, 11k in 2018, 12k in 2019, are currently averaging 12,600 and are now headed to the AAC.
That’s why I put “magical” there. Liberty wasn’t averaging well under 10k when they went FBS. I am pointing out, that if they can’t even get 8k despite the “best team” in FCS, how can anyone expect them to improve that by playing in CUSA?

Charlotte is in a major city. Sam Houston is not. It’s not the same.
 
Yep. Our best case scenario is someone a few teams leave the MWC and they need to pick up regional teams. We just need to sustain some success.
That's why I'm not too excited about adding the Dakota schools or Montana or really anyone in the West. I could see them passing us up for the MW invite down the road.
 
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I think everyone is waiting on the next dominoes to fall. Bowslby has said the Big 12 will add four more soon. He's anticipating the big 10 and pac 12 taking 4 from the current Big 12.

When that happens I think it opens up the MWC for us. Boise, San Diego State and Memphis seem like locks. The fourth is in Flux If TCU is headed to the PAC 12 I thinks it SMU. It could also be Colorado State or Air Force. At that point I don't think a merger between the AAC and MWC is workable. That's the point I think we get in the MWC.
 
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With rumors that WKU and MT are begging the MAC to take them (I don't blame them) no one should join. At least until the MAC gives them a firm no. Then the conference can move forward.
It's better this way. A reporter says two or three names and everyone acts like it's written in stone.
 
It’s idiotic for a FCS school to make a rushed decision on joining FBS, let alone the worst conference in FBS. Corona brought up Texas St and UTSA joining the WAC 10 years ago, just to jump to FBS. I am not going to dissect the timeline and all that, but that was 10 years ago. What was the end result? Worked out fine for UTSA and Texas St. Not so much for Idaho and NMSU.

On top of that, you’re taking your olympic sports out of regional conferences to fly them to El Paso, Miami, Nashville, and wherever else. North Dakota St probably buses to all their basketball games in the Summit League, except for maybe Denver and Oral Roberts. That costs more money, on top of more football scholarships and added women’s sports.

Joining CUSA is all risk, with little reward.
 
That's why I'm not too excited about adding the Dakota schools or Montana or really anyone in the West. I could see them passing us up for the MW invite down the road.
If thw mwc is telling the truth and all they want is a warm body in a big market, they will never bring in the Dakota or Montana schools. If Wyoming was on the outside trying to get in the mwc would snear at them too.

I'm starting to believe that other than NMSU I don't want any close adds because this shouldn't be seen as a long term solution for UTEP athletics.
 
It’s idiotic for a FCS school to make a rushed decision on joining FBS, let alone the worst conference in FBS. Corona brought up Texas St and UTSA joining the WAC 10 years ago, just to jump to FBS. I am not going to dissect the timeline and all that, but that was 10 years ago. What was the end result? Worked out fine for UTSA and Texas St. Not so much for Idaho and NMSU.

On top of that, you’re taking your olympic sports out of regional conferences to fly them to El Paso, Miami, Nashville, and wherever else. North Dakota St probably buses to all their basketball games in the Summit League, except for maybe Denver and Oral Roberts. That costs more money, on top of more football scholarships and added women’s sports.

Joining CUSA is all risk, with little reward.
This makes no sense. I thought you said Independence is a great move and UTEP should do it. By that logic it worked out great for everyone. NMSU goes Independent and has no problems and Idaho joins a bus league.
 
Will the PAC-12 or Big 12 add in the current realignment though? I'm not sure that happens.
 
This makes no sense. I thought you said Independence is a great move and UTEP should do it. By that logic it worked out great for everyone. NMSU goes Independent and has no problems and Idaho joins a bus league.
Putting words in my mouth and associating other team’s “could happen” to UTEP’s current situation. Just because I would like to see UTEP go Independent, does not mean Sam Houston St or it’s fans, want to be in CUSA for 3 years and then have Independence forced upon them.

Would Idaho have gone FBS if they knew 20 years later they would be back in FCS? Doubt it.
 
Putting words in my mouth and associating other team’s “could happen” to UTEP’s current situation. Just because I would like to see UTEP go Independent, does not mean Sam Houston St or it’s fans, want to be in CUSA for 3 years and then have Independence forced upon them.

Would Idaho have gone FBS if they knew 20 years later they would be back in FCS? Doubt it.
The fear of failure is what keeps everyone from achieving their true potential. I'm sure most FCS call ups look at the many success stories of every FCS call up and not the one and only school that failed.

How would they be forced into independence? In 3 years it could be them getting called up to the SB or they simply add more FCS teams to CUSA and life goes on.
 
Aren't we just heading to a super conference at the top? With maybe four divisions which would somewhat resemble the current big conferences, leaving out the Vanderbilt's, Rutgers, Washington State's, etc.? Then hopefully a re-alignment of the second tier to regional groupings.
 
UCONN and UMASS in CUSA is also a dream.

Your suggestions of dropping to FCS and playing in a regional conference are coming true. I'm not sure why you're calling it a nightmare.

I'm calling a conference with UTEP, UMass, and UConn a nightmare because it would be worse than a conference with Western Kentucky and ODWho?.
 
Aren't we just heading to a super conference at the top? With maybe four divisions which would somewhat resemble the current big conferences, leaving out the Vanderbilt's, Rutgers, Washington State's, etc.? Then hopefully a re-alignment of the second tier to regional groupings.
Those teams will have their place at the table. Every power conference needs a whipping boy.
 
I'm calling a conference with UTEP, UMass, and UConn a nightmare because it would be worse than a conference with Western Kentucky and ODWho?.
It would actually be a dream if we could get those teams to join.
 
The fear of failure is what keeps everyone from achieving their true potential. I'm sure most FCS call ups look at the many success stories of every FCS call up and not the one and only school that failed.

How would they be forced into independence? In 3 years it could be them getting called up to the SB or they simply add more FCS teams to CUSA and life goes on.
Maybe that happens, maybe not? Some of you guys think it’s so easy and that everyone in FCS wants to be in FBS and sacrifice their olympic sports to do so.

Yes, fear of failure is a big reason everyone “can’t” achieve their “full potential”, but if you do fail, you’re only hurting 1 persons life, maybe your immediate family at worst. And then, it may or may not last awhile. “Failing” at college athletics or big business, hurts a lot more people.
 
Maybe that happens, maybe not? Some of you guys think it’s so easy and that everyone in FCS wants to be in FBS and sacrifice their olympic sports to do so.

Yes, fear of failure is a big reason everyone “can’t” achieve their “full potential”, but if you do fail, you’re only hurting 1 persons life, maybe your immediate family at worst. And then, it may or may not last awhile. “Failing” at college athletics or big business, hurts a lot more people.
Not everyone wants to be FBS just the schools with aspirations to move up to the highest level of college football in America.
 
Has anyone looked at Sam Houston’s attendance? They’ve won 16 in a row, ranked #1, and defending National Champions, 7,559 at their last home. Their first home game, coming off a dominating performance on the road and the national title? 7,728.

How can a good team like that, not even get 10,000 for their games? Suddenly this is a FBS caliber school? How do you expect them to get the “magical” 15k in FBS? I guess double the fans will start coming when the big boys of FBS, UTEP and NMSU come to town!
Long story short they have a glorified high school stadium that holds 12,000+ They would obviously have to improve facilities and hope that the jump up would mean more fans. Question though of the teams that are leaving how many were averaging over 15,000 this year?
 
Question though of the teams that are leaving how many were averaging over 15,000 this year?
It doesn’t ****ing matter. They left for a better situation and conference. That’s the AAC’s problem to figure out now. None have had less than 8,000 and are current National Champions though!
 
I think everyone is waiting on the next dominoes to fall. Bowslby has said the Big 12 will add four more soon. He's anticipating the big 10 and pac 12 taking 4 from the current Big 12.

When that happens I think it opens up the MWC for us. Boise, San Diego State and Memphis seem like locks. The fourth is in Flux If TCU is headed to the PAC 12 I thinks it SMU. It could also be Colorado State or Air Force. At that point I don't think a merger between the AAC and MWC is workable. That's the point I think we get in the MWC.
Big 12 taking four more? That’s new info. If that was their intent why wouldn’t they announce that when they added the other 4 teams? Not sure on that one buddy
 
Folks, going Independent is an option but not a good option. NoWins has zero facts and no direct sources from any AD or staff, nor economic source that is on record saying “Independent is the best option, period!”. He is 100% full of it.
 
Folks, going Independent is an option but not a good option. NoWins has zero facts and no direct sources from any AD or staff, nor economic source that is on record saying “Independent is the best option, period!”. He is 100% full of it.
Folks, 2Step has poor reading comprehension and probably early stage dementia. I never once said “Independence was the best option”, nor did I post a bunch of facts stating so. I only said, I would like to see it. Especially if “we’re all in” on CUSA with a bunch of sped up FCS move ups.
 
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It doesn’t ****ing matter. They left for a better situation and conference. That’s the AAC’s problem to figure out now. None have had less than 8,000 and are current National Champions though!
If you have better additions than the number 1 fcs team, let's hear it? You don't think more fans would come if they stepped up? I think they would, but again they'd have to improve alot of stuff just as other FCS teams would.
 
We were supposed to have news this morning, were we not? Ball is totally in Marshall’s court.
 
If you have better additions than the number 1 fcs team, let's hear it? You don't think more fans would come if they stepped up? I think they would, but again they'd have to improve alot of stuff just as other FCS teams would.
I am not questioning their athletic capabilities. They might get better crowds in they were in FBS, by how much, I couldn’t tell you. As a reasonable person, I would say that hosting UTEP and NMSU would barely make a difference in attendance.

I am only questioning their current attendance. They have a long winning streak and are current National Champions. They’re getting less than 8,000 and IF they went to FBS, they’re certainly not winning 16 in a row or winning anything other than a conference title and a 5th rate bowl. They’re not going to be playing Houston, Rice, Texas, and Baylor. They might be playing schools similar to themselves and unwanted CUSA schools.
 
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Folks, going Independent is an option but not a good option. NoWins has zero facts and no direct sources from any AD or staff, nor economic source that is on record saying “Independent is the best option, period!”. He is 100% full of it.
“We have made it clear that joining a FBS conference is 1A and 1B priority at New Mexico State."

Quote from Moccia from the LC paper a few days ago. As a school that has Independent status in our region, that's all we need to know.
 
I am not questioning their athletic capabilities. They might get better crowds in they were in FBS, by how much, I couldn’t tell you. As a reasonable person, I would say that hosting UTEP and NMSU would barely make a difference in attendance.

I am only questioning their current attendance. They have a long winning streak and are current National Champions. They’re getting less than 8,000 and IF they went to FBS, they’re certainly not winning 16 in a row or winning anything other than a conference title and a 5th rate bowl. They’re not going to be playing Houston, Rice, Texas, and Baylor. They might be playing schools similar to themselves and unwanted CUSA schools.
Who cares about their attendance. Lets worry about why we had 10k for a MW foe.
 
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