If we don't have a football season

[JCorona]

Exactly. Nobody said it it easy, but it's not hard either. I showed you the evidence of NMSU's future schedules.

What a joke. If it’s not hard then why only five home games? Why H&A with the same team in the same season? Why only one or two home games in the last 6 weeks of the schedule? Why three paydays? Why ask UTEP to move dates around, twice?

Your evidence is weak. They have a series scheduled with UNM and another series with Liberty. That’s it. Not even a series with UTEP is scheduled. They still need to schedule 10 more games. Our schedule that far out is pretty much done. Maybe looking for two more games. It’s much easier to schedule when you’re in a conference.

 

[Autograph Boy]

Sure we could and it would suck. It’s not fan friendly at all. Next year the nmsu schedule has one home game from Oct 2 to November 20th. Why give up on trying to win conference/division titles? I’ve never experienced a bowl win but to me the best season was when we were WAC champions. I don’t think going 6-6 and winning the whatever bowl would produce the same dopamine as a conference title.

Not true. Utah State is in Las Cruces on November 6.

 

[Autograph Boy]

What a joke. If it’s not hard then why only five home games? Why H&A with the same team in the same season? Why only one or two home games in the last 6 weeks of the schedule? Why three paydays? Why ask UTEP to move dates around, twice?

Your evidence is weak. They have a series scheduled with UNM and another series with Liberty. That’s it. Not even a series with UTEP is scheduled. They still need to schedule 10 more games. Our schedule that far out is pretty much done. Maybe looking for two more games. It’s much easier to schedule when you’re in a conference.

What do you mean they still need to schedule 10 more games?

FUTURE NEW MEXICO STATE OPPONENTS
2020

• 08/29 - at UCLA (Canceled)
• 09/03 - at UAB
• 09/12 - Akron
• 09/19 - New Mexico
• 09/26 - at UTEP
• 10/03 - Texas State
• 10/10 - at Hawaii
• 10/17 - at Fresno State
• 10/24 - Louisiana
• 11/07 - at UMass
• 11/14 - Texas Southern
• 11/21 - at Florida

2021

• 08/28 - UTEP
• 09/04 - at San Diego State
• 09/11 - at New Mexico
• 09/25 - Hawaii
• 10/02 - at San Jose State
• 10/09 - at Nevada
• 10/23 - at Hawaii
• 11/06 - Utah State
• 11/13 - at Alabama
• 11/20 - at Kentucky
• 11/27 - UMass
• TBA - Dixie State

2022

• 08/27 - Nevada
• 09/01 - at Minnesota
• 09/10 - at UTEP
• 09/17 - at Wisconsin
• 10/01 - at Akron
• 10/15 - Hawaii
• 10/22 - San Jose State
• 10/29 - at UMass
• 11/19 - at Missouri
• 11/26 - at Liberty
• TBA - New Mexico

2023

• 08/26 - UMass
• 09/02 - at San Diego State
• 09/23 - at Hawaii
• 10/07 - UTEP
• 10/14 - at Louisiana
• 10/28 - at Northwestern
• 11/18 - at Auburn
• 11/25 - Liberty
• TBA - at New Mexico

2024

• 08/24 - Hawaii
• 09/14 - Northern Illinois
• 09/21 - at Wyoming
• 10/05 - at Fresno State
• 10/26 - Louisiana
• 11/16 - at Texas A&M
• 11/23 - Abilene Christian
• 11/30 - at Liberty
• TBA - New Mexico
• TBA - at UTEP

2025

• 09/06 - UAB
• TBA - UTEP
• TBA - at New Mexico

2026

• 09/05 - Central Michigan
• 11/21 - at Liberty
• TBA - New Mexico

2027

• 09/11 - at Northern Illinois
• 11/27 - Liberty
• TBA - at New Mexico

2028

• 11/25 - at Liberty
• TBA - New Mexico

2029

• 11/17 - Liberty
• TBA - at New Mexico

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

Sure we could and it would suck. It’s not fan friendly at all. Next year the nmsu schedule has one home game from Oct 2 to November 20th. Why give up on trying to win conference/division titles? I’ve never experienced a bowl win but to me the best season was when we were WAC champions. I don’t think going 6-6 and winning the whatever bowl would produce the same dopamine as a conference title.

That was the only season UTEP has ever won a conference championship in “recent” times and even then they shared it. And got destroyed by the team they shared it with. So once every 75 years the Miners will have a season like that.

What’s wrong with giving up on conference titles when you just said UTEP would be a bottom dweller in FCS?

 

[JCorona]

Not true. Utah State is in Las Cruces on November 6.

What’s not true? That’s their only home game between 10/2 - 11/20.

 

[Autograph Boy]

What’s not true? That’s their only home game between 10/2 - 11/20.

My mistake. But nobody really cares about that.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

Exactly. It's like when the Diablos went to Indy ball. Nobody went because of the caliber of the players. Sure there were former and future Major Leaguers playing, but the overall play is nothing compared to AAA.

Probably had something to do with it, but that wasn’t everything. They didn’t keep up the field and maybe the Northeast wasn’t the best location for Cohen Stadium.

 

[Autograph Boy]

Probably had something to do with it, but that wasn’t everything. They didn’t keep up the field and maybe the Northeast wasn’t the best location for Cohen Stadium.

Attendance was good with AA baseball. Not like with AAA now, but it was still good.

The Independent League All-Star game in El Paso sold out and had the highest ever attendance.

People like good entertainment. The Chihuahuas portray that. UTEP athletics is boring.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

What’s not true? That’s their only home game between 10/2 - 11/20.

You are right, UTEP’s home games would be limited in October and November. Let’s run off all the late season home game excuses

130pm November kickoffs suck!
It’s too cold!
It’s the same weekend as the Halloween parties!
They suck anyway!

 

[JCorona]

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That was the only season UTEP has ever won a conference championship in “recent” times and even then they shared it. And got destroyed by the team they shared it with. So once every 75 years the Miners will have a season like that.

What’s wrong with giving up on conference titles when you just said UTEP would be a bottom dweller in FCS?

The right hire can change everything. UNT was getting blown out by 60 to an FCS team a few years ago. Right now this UTEP team would be a bottom dweller in any D1 league in America. With the right hire that can be changed. What can’t be changed is winning a football conference title when we are not in a conference.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

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The right hire can change everything. UNT was getting blown out by 60 to an FCS team a few years ago. Right now this UTEP team would be a bottom dweller in any D1 league in America. With the right hire that can be changed. What can’t be changed is winning a football conference title when we are not in a conference.

Well “winning” 1 conference title in 75 years isn’t really a viable concern, but if you want to keep that dream alive, you do you.

 

[JCorona]

Well “winning” 1 conference title in 75 years isn’t really a viable concern, but if you want to keep that dream alive, you do you.

I sure will. I’m 99% sure if UTEP wins a football conference championship most will celebrate it like we just won the Super Bowl.

 

[MinerInWisconsin]

Remember the difference in Kugler's teams when Showers was playing QB? When he went out with injury the team simply could not function on offense anymore. If by some chance Dimel has a reasonably decent team this year but no quality QB, would it be worthwhile to bring in the troubled TT QB that would have immediate eligibility? No one will sign him but he was very talented. Does UTEP need to take that kind of chance?

 

[Autograph Boy]

Remember the difference in Kugler's teams when Showers was playing QB? When he went out with injury the team simply could not function on offense anymore. If by some chance Dimel has a reasonably decent team this year but no quality QB, would it be worthwhile to bring in the troubled TT QB that would have immediate eligibility? No one will sign him but he was very talented. Does UTEP need to take that kind of chance?

UTEP has to take all the chances they can get. If the waterboy can throw a football, sign him up.

 

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[Dmanminer]

We hire these old coaches with old ideals and no imagination. Hire so “ kid” who wants to make a name for himself or even something more radical hire a young woman coach!
If they found one the stadium would be packed and the national media would be here every week. And could you imagine the players who would want that attention.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

I’m all for women being hired for jobs and being leaders when they traditionally have not, but I don’t think you will see a women coaching FCS/FBS ball any time soon. I don’t care how butchy she might be.

 

[Dmanminer]

Don’t know if this is any that are qualified, but our coaches now aren’t either.

 

[Autograph Boy]

What a bargain!!

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

What a bargain!!

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Rice University grads will tell you it’s way better than going to GCU or other online only schools!!!

 

[Autograph Boy]

Rice University grads will tell you it’s way better than going to GCU or other online only schools!!!

Apparently you don't have to be smart to graduate from Rice.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

If I’m on the hook for $50k a year, I’m not taking outside classes in Houston. Maybe in Curaçao or Hawaii.

 

[Autograph Boy]

If I’m on the hook for $50k a year, I’m not taking outside classes in Houston. Maybe in Curaçao or Hawaii.

Or Alaska. lol Houston with shade in September is not bearable.

 

[JCorona]

Remember the difference in Kugler's teams when Showers was playing QB? When he went out with injury the team simply could not function on offense anymore. If by some chance Dimel has a reasonably decent team this year but no quality QB, would it be worthwhile to bring in the troubled TT QB that would have immediate eligibility? No one will sign him but he was very talented. Does UTEP need to take that kind of chance?

At this point, hire Art Briles. I don’t care anymore. Win balls games.

 

[JCorona]

https://footballscoop.com/news/its-official-d-iii-program-making-the-jump-to-division-i/

How long until they pass us?

 

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[Autograph Boy]

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It's been 2 years and they're still not done.

 

[JCorona]

It's been 2 years and they're still not done.

It took them two years to chair back three small sections. My dream of having the entire gold section chair backed will take a long ass time if Senter is in charge.

 

[TxRdKiller]

https://footballscoop.com/news/its-official-d-iii-program-making-the-jump-to-division-i/

How long until they pass us?

Do you suppose they're licking their chops to embarrass the Miners on the field?

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

It took them two years to chair back three small sections. My dream of having the entire gold section chair backed will take a long ass time if Senter is in charge.

To be fair, these things cost money. They also decided to do this at probably the football teams lowest point in popularity. Not like there is a demand for football tickets. If the football season is played without fans/cancelled, this will probably be the last upgrade the Sun Bowl receives for decades.

 

[JCorona]

To be fair, these things cost money. They also decided to do this at probably the football teams lowest point in popularity. Not like there is a demand for football tickets. If the football season is played without fans/cancelled, this will probably be the last upgrade the Sun Bowl receives for decades.

This project is probably the easiest and least expensive upgrade possible. Our conference mate tore down and rebuilt a new stadium faster than it took us to chair back three sections. If we had attempted that, IMO we would still be making landfill trips to Clint.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

This project is probably the easiest and least expensive upgrade possible. Our conference mate tore down and rebuilt a new stadium faster than it took us to chair back three sections. If we had attempted that, IMO we would still be making landfill trips to Clint.

Maybe so, but apples to oranges. ODU doesn’t have 70 years of pathetic football. They have a brand new team. Their original stadium was built in 1936 and was re-built at 22,000 seats.

If in 2090, ODU was one conference championship and was 2-10 seasons on the regular, they won’t be getting stadium upgrades either.

Did UTEP do a great job at the upgrades? Probably not. Does it matter? Not really.

 

[JCorona]

Maybe so, but apples to oranges. ODU doesn’t have 70 years of pathetic football. They have a brand new team. Their original stadium was built in 1936 and was re-built at 22,000 seats.

If in 2090, ODU was one conference championship and was 2-10 seasons on the regular, they won’t be getting stadium upgrades either.

Did UTEP do a great job at the upgrades? Probably not. Does it matter? Not really.

UAB just won their first conference title in 2018. They're building a new 175 million dollar stadium. Either way our performance on the field has nothing to do with how bad this upgrade to the stadium was managed.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

UAB just won their first conference title in 2018. They're building a new 175 million dollar stadium. Either way our performance on the field has nothing to do with how bad this upgrade to the stadium was managed.

Their program was killed and fundraising and state pressure brought it back. They too were playing in an old stadium. The upper deck was condemned at one point and is considered in a “bad” part of town.

 

[JCorona]

Their program was killed and fundraising and state pressure brought it back. They too were playing in an old stadium. The upper deck was condemned at one point and is considered in a “bad” part of town.

The fans and city stood behind their shitty program and now they're thriving. Seems a lot better than the ”stop buying tickets” approach.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

The fans and city stood behind their shitty program and now they're thriving. Seems a lot better than the ”stop buying tickets” approach.

Attendance for their final home game vs LaTech last year 18,346. They won the division and had a successful season, yet only had 18k for their last home. Yeah, the fans and city are really supporting them!

 

[JCorona]

Attendance for their final home game vs LaTech last year 18,346. They won the division and had a successful season, yet only had 18k for their last home. Yeah, the fans and city are really supporting them!

Who cares. They won a conference title, a bowl game, have a million-dollar coach, and are going to build a 175 million stadium. The financial support is there.

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

 

[NoNCAAWinsSince1992]

Who cares. They won a conference title, a bowl game, have a million-dollar coach, and are going to build a 175 million stadium. The financial support is there.

UTEP is fine as Senter, Dismel, and Terry have not taken any paycuts. Attendance does not matter, only the coaching and recruiting does.