OT: Sun Bowl
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Palm also has UNT vs Miami Ohio in the Bahamas bowl while McMurphy is reporting MTSU vs Toledo in the Bahamas Bowl is a done deal.
No PAC12 playoff team and the Sun Bowl picks before thw new LA Bowl so the SB should be fine.
90% sure it will be Washington State vs a 6-6 team from the ACC.
I didn't realize we dropped a spot in the ACC pecking order this year.
IF (hypothetical) we could use the Sun Bowl to get the MWC invite, the match up would be San Diego St vs Washington St.
You can almost guarantee that the Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl jumps us next season. They have the MWC champion currently. The window on that potential alliance would close.
I didn't realize we dropped a spot in the ACC pecking order this year.
IF (hypothetical) we could use the Sun Bowl to get the MWC invite, the match up would be San Diego St vs Washington St.
You can almost guarantee that the Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl jumps us next season. They have the MWC champion currently. The window on that potential alliance would close.
Would much rather see a MW champ than a 6-6 Miami type of team. Wouldn't care if the game lost CBS status, but the olds are probably married to that affiliation.
Do y’all even understand how bowls work? If CBS dumps the Sun Bowl, you can stick a fork in it.
Yes, we understand. It doesn’t mean we can’t want to see something else. If Wash St comes, the last 7 Sun Bowls will have featured ASU 3 times and Stanford & Wash St twice each. At least the ACC has sent a different team each of those 7 years.
Not everyone in El Paso is 60 years old and will just blindly hand over their money for a continuous mediocre product.
…as if no other network could conceivably pick it up fork-in-it?
On ESPN we would have better flexibility with team selections.
You understand that we give 4.4 million dollars? And only 300 thousand comes from CBS. We can get the same from NFL Network. Check your receipts next time you rent a car. That's how the Sun Bowl is funded. Not by CBS.
Maybe if the Sun Bowl would have changed networks years ago, it wouldn't be the low tier bowl it has become. It wouldn't get passed by every new Bowl Game that pops up.
The Alamo Bowl outbids Sun Bowl every time. Not my words, go ask Bernie. The channel does not matter.
ESPN shows lower tier bowls. Why wouldn't they broadcast the Sun Bowl?
So many people believe that it is so important that the Sun Bowl stay on CBS. I just don't get it. Back when I was a kid, when a anyone who had cable was the envy of their classmates, being on a broadcast network was huge. Now with the proliferation of cable/satellite/streaming it makes no difference. Much, much bigger bowls than the Sun Bowl are on ESPN, they don't seem to care that they're not on a broadcast network. Like I said, smaller bowls are on there, too. There certainly would be a place for the Sun Bowl.
Oh, and can someone please tell me how being on CBS has helped the Sun Bowl? It used to be no surprise if a couple of ranked teams played in the Sun Bowl. For years we've been sliding further and further down the pecking order. It seems that the PAC-12 and the ACC don't care about being on a broadcast network either, as they keep allowing ESPN televised bowls to pick earlier than the Sun Bowl. It's time for the Sunnies to stop worrying about that CBS affiliation.
It's not just what a network pays to broadcast, I'm sure there are other agreements/details that the Sun Bowl and CBS have. 300,000 doesn't seem like a lot but the other obligations etc may add to this. The whole bowl situation has really downgraded the Sun Bowl and not sure CBS is to blame. I think the SB needs to evaluate it's position but I don't think they have much leverage in any direction.
I doubt that the Sunnies have ever shopped it. They all think that having the bowl game on a broadcast network is still a big deal (like I said above, it isn't), and brag about the CBS affiliation, even though the match ups that they are able to produce haven't been very attractive for quite a while. Now I doubt that ESPN would match the $300K we are getting from CBS, but as others have pointed out only a small percentage of the money generated for the Sun Bowl comes from our contract with CBS. The Sun Bowl doesn't need CBS to survive, but, like you, the Sunnies don't see it that way.
The Cure Bowl was on CBS Sports Network and now it’s on ESPN2. Why would the Cure Bowl get other takers, but not the Sun Bowl?
Obviously a bowl with a 500k payout pitting the AAC vs Sun Belt, that struggles to draw 20k is way more attractive. The Sun Belt has a lowly payout of 4.5 million, two P5 teams, and crowds consistently around 45k. Hopefully CBS never leaves or it will end up on Facebook live or maybe even completely off tv.
The Sun Bowl gets most of its money from the Rental Tax, Ticket Sales, and sponsor. Unless El Paso - who buys the large majority of tickets stop buying tickets for 9-3 MWC teams, the bowl will be fine, no matter where it’s broadcast
Your point being no one else would be interested? Though ESPN was interested in taking a menial bowl from CBSSN?
True, but CBS isn't giving the money that the ratings deserve. Disney/ABC/ESPN could bury the Sun Bowl with TV money. Las Vegas Bowl surpassed the Sun this year. That's an ESPN Bowl. Jimmy Kimmel Bowl is the new Bowl on the Block and they are on ABC.
The Holiday Bowl and Las Vegas Bowl will now switch in the pecking order every other year and both are ahead of the Sun.
TV Ratings are a worthless stat if the Network is paying peanuts.
One of those was the Pinstripe Bowl with Miss St and Wake Forest. Which was broadcast on a Friday afternoon at 320p EST.
BTW, yesterday on SportsTalk, Bernie was telling Steve that Oregon State was ahead of Washington State. And Steve had to correct him and say no Washington State has a better record in Conference. So Bernie started saying that Washington State will probably come then.
But the guy hosting the show had to tell the Sun Bowl guy who's coming.
But the guy hosting the show had to tell the Sun Bowl guy who's coming.
Depends on contract language. Maybe CBS can roll it over and nobody else is able to submit a bid.
CBS isn't committed to college football. ESPN pulled out the Brinks truck and outbid them for SEC.
In 2023 the best on CBS will be MW and if they decide to resign CUSA to CBS Sports. Doubt it though.
